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Old 11-11-2013, 09:17 PM   #271
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To you.


That's the nice version.


I think that some people just want to give other people trouble. I got tired of it and I'll just say that the Ignore feature is a nice one.

I honestly still don't believe that chastising people for having concerns is going to get them to change their mind or quit going to WDW. I don't really understand the motivation for this but it doesn't seem to be working.
Yeah I don't get it either. I'm trying to cut back on my sugar so every now and then I find one of those overly sweet Disney is awesome threads to get my fill. I never see all the negative nelly's posting in there telling them they are wrong and they should just learn to accept the evil that is Disney
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Old 11-11-2013, 09:17 PM   #272
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Two things about this don't make sense to me:

Disney offers a high profit product in Park Hopper and this would tend to cut against it while promoting a lesser profit product - additional days. Maybe they make it up through increased concessions and with additional lodging of resort guests?
To your first point, I think they price park hoppers high to discourage park hopping, because it contributes to more crowds at MK at night. They want people to stay at one park for the day and night, preferably one other than MK. Hence why they are also adding a nighttime show of some sort at AK supposedly.

Additional days would definitely generate more profit via food and lodging, which is why they price the tickets like that to begin with I guess.
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Old 11-11-2013, 09:22 PM   #273
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This article about Pandora shows where magicbands are going. But I don't see the connection to FP+.
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Me neither.
I'm betting the decision to spend over a billion dollars on this concept was not based on a single component but rather several:

Yield management of attractions and resources (FP+)
Proximity Detection and Access Management (RFID)
Unique Experience Programming (interactive responses)
Guest data accrual (what you like to ride, buy, eat, etc)
And yes....marketing of all of the above.

Yet I've still gotten three emails this week warning me that I don't have much time left to verify my address and customize my MagicBands, even though I've already received two complete customized sets in the mail for my upcoming reservation(s) beginning 11/21.

Yeah, they've still got some bugs to work out which can seriously impact consumer confidence in their product.
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Old 11-11-2013, 09:23 PM   #274
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Just wanted to say we just got back last week. Ten of us at blt. It was great. Fp and Mp worked great after we knocked out a few kinks on day 1. Biggest problem was pin code not working for some of our family and we were all in the same room. Dh used wheel chair but we never asked for DAS. All in all my advise is to hang in and be patient. Hotel staff could not do enough to help correct kinks. At 8K I certainly understand concerns but we truly had a rare problem passed day 2 . MDE and MB really were a work in progress. My biggest con was photopass plus. Very disappointing for the price.
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Old 11-11-2013, 09:23 PM   #275
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Disney execs CFO said they are looking forward to getting as many people booked up in advance for rides. To do this people have to purchase tickets in advance. Get people to commit to as many days as possible at wdw. Also if fastpasses are difficult to obtain (and they will be) people will be less likely to waste them or skip a park day (thus spending more money). When Disney advertising goes into effect, fastpass+ acquisition will become much more of a planning challenge.

Disney people also see fastpasses as a way to get people to use the existing infrastructure more in lieu of building more attractions. Fastpass+ are designed to get people on high capacity rides like pirates and haunted mansion.

Magicbands are designed to wring out an additional 15% of cash out of people.

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You should get the link in your signature stickied so you don't have to keep typing it. You must get tired of doing that
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Old 11-11-2013, 09:28 PM   #276
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You say that, but you do not seem to respect the decision of those who have opted to postpone/cancel their trips until the dust settles. Instead you ridicule them, post snarky comments and in general, act quite unpleasantly toward them. Why be so rude toward people who have made a decision they feel is best for their family? It's not as if your last name is Disney. Why take it so personally?

I can understand that my decision to cancel our trip, while best for us, is not the answer for everyone and that others will be happy enough going to WDW during that time/under those circumstances. Why can you not grasp that others might make a decision different to you, without criticizing them and resorting to condescending remarks?

There is a difference between, "I am still going to WDW, will have a good time, and if you feel otherwise you should not go" and "I am still going to WDW, will have a good time, and if you feel otherwise you should not go......you idiot."

Maybe.. possibly... EMom, most people probably do not care if you decided
to cancel your trip because you are so unhappy with Disneys FP +.
I personally could care less about you or your AP holding friends in
Orlando cancelling their Disney Plans. Yet you choose to use the
forum as your soapbox to let everyone know. Who cares?? I do
apologize for the waaaaa comment but it sounded trivial to me.
IMO, since I have a soapbox too, it is a silly thing for AP holders
in FL to be distraught over FP+ management when they can go
to the parks any time they please and can do so at more than
fair prices. People that come from out of state on a much less
frequent basis.. maybe have a more valid reason for complaint.
I'm sure you will have an argument for this, but hopefully you
would show restraint of calling one an 'idiot' as you did in an
earlier post. Who's calling who rude?
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Old 11-11-2013, 09:31 PM   #277
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Just wanted to say we just got back last week. Ten of us at blt. It was great. Fp and Mp worked great after we knocked out a few kinks on day 1. Biggest problem was pin code not working for some of our family and we were all in the same room. Dh used wheel chair but we never asked for DAS. All in all my advise is to hang in and be patient. Hotel staff could not do enough to help correct kinks. At 8K I certainly understand concerns but we truly had a rare problem passed day 2 . MDE and MB really were a work in progress. My biggest con was photopass plus. Very disappointing for the price.
May I ask if part of your touring plan was using more than 3 fastpasses in the past? Or were you a not really use fastpass family?
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Old 11-11-2013, 09:38 PM   #278
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May I ask if part of your touring plan was using more than 3 fastpasses in the past? Or were you a not really use fastpass family?
Sure you may ask! We only used 3 fast passes a day except for one day when my kids fast pass individually without their little ones and some got wasted. We only planned a few fp before we got there and did the rest each morning. Guess we were just a lucky few . Did that help?
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Old 11-11-2013, 09:45 PM   #279
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Sure you may ask! We only used 3 fast passes a day except for one day when my kids fast pass individually without their little ones and some got wasted. We only planned a few fp before we got there and did the rest each morning. Guess we were just a lucky few . Did that help?
Well I kind of meant on past trips or was this a first. I couldn't tell because I didn't see anything in your sig about where you had previously stayed. I am only asking because it seems that the majority of guests who have liked the new fp+ were never really fastpass users in the past and those who are concerned were multi -fastpass users.

Also I think you benefited from a low crowd week. Congrats those seem to be far and few between anymore. I am happy that it worked out for you and your family.
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Old 11-11-2013, 10:06 PM   #280
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I Guess that is how I felt for our August trip. I never once had a pull a FP-. I just used our FP+ and it was perfect. But we never pulled more than 4 tops in a day anyway. But we go for 12 days disney and 4 at universal. So I feel we are fine.
Yeah, our family wouldn't be worried much if we were able to spend 12 days at Disney. My DH is a teacher. We have to travel during peak season and we have to stay off-site. We get one day in MK, Epcot and HS each year. We have taken yearly trips since 07 and have had amazing trips each time. We have convinced about 6 or 7 other families to give Disney a try by explaining how to use FP to have a great trip. We are worried and even though I already have our place reserved for next summer, I am not feeling the excitement I normally have thinking about planning our trip. Our family loves Disney so much and it makes us feel sick to think we will no longer be able to tour the way we have loved so much in the past.

BTW, I am glad your trip turned out so well. I envy your family being able to spend so many days at Disney. I hope one day our family will be able to do the same!
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Old 11-11-2013, 10:24 PM   #281
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I'm betting the decision to spend over a billion dollars on this concept was not based on a single component but rather several: Yield management of attractions and resources (FP+) Proximity Detection and Access Management (RFID) Unique Experience Programming (interactive responses) Guest data accrual (what you like to ride, buy, eat, etc) And yes....marketing of all of the above. Yet I've still gotten three emails this week warning me that I don't have much time left to verify my address and customize my MagicBands, even though I've already received two complete customized sets in the mail for my upcoming reservation(s) beginning 11/21. Yeah, they've still got some bugs to work out which can seriously impact consumer confidence in their product.
I said same previous post. RFID is the rock on which you build most of the rest.

Just don't see connection to pandora.
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Old 11-11-2013, 10:41 PM   #282
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Maybe.. possibly... EMom, most people probably do not care if you decided
to cancel your trip because you are so unhappy with Disneys FP +.
I personally could care less about you or your AP holding friends in
Orlando cancelling their Disney Plans. Yet you choose to use the
forum as your soapbox to let everyone know. Who cares?? I do
apologize for the waaaaa comment but it sounded trivial to me.
IMO, since I have a soapbox too, it is a silly thing for AP holders
in FL to be distraught over FP+ management when they can go
to the parks any time they please and can do so at more than
fair prices. People that come from out of state on a much less
frequent basis.. maybe have a more valid reason for complaint.
I'm sure you will have an argument for this, but hopefully you
would show restraint of calling one an 'idiot' as you did in an
earlier post. Who's calling who rude?
dennisj, you may want to go back and READ the entire post and not pull comments out of context. She wasn't calling anyone an idiot. She was quoting others who have used that term.

Emom, may I show you to the Ignore button, which I just discovered?
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Old 11-11-2013, 10:49 PM   #283
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dennisj, you may want to go back and READ the entire post and not pull comments out of context. She wasn't calling anyone an idiot. She was quoting others who have used that term.

Emom, may I show you to the Ignore button, which I just discovered?
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Old 11-11-2013, 10:50 PM   #284
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Me neither.
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This digression in the thread started from your statement that all of us would be "amazed how many people don't use FP+" (see post # 241).

If you're confused with what this has to do with FP+, it definitely means it's time for me to go to bed.
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Old 11-11-2013, 11:06 PM   #285
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Maybe.. possibly... EMom, most people probably do not care if you decided
to cancel your trip because you are so unhappy with Disneys FP +.
I personally could care less about you or your AP holding friends in
Orlando cancelling their Disney Plans. Yet you choose to use the
forum as your soapbox to let everyone know. Who cares?? I do
apologize for the waaaaa comment but it sounded trivial to me.
IMO, since I have a soapbox too, it is a silly thing for AP holders
in FL to be distraught over FP+ management when they can go
to the parks any time they please and can do so at more than
fair prices. People that come from out of state on a much less
frequent basis.. maybe have a more valid reason for complaint.
I'm sure you will have an argument for this, but hopefully you
would show restraint of calling one an 'idiot' as you did in an
earlier post. Who's calling who rude?
I began a thread about canceling our trip (largely due to the everchanging rules and uncertainty) mainly because I knew many other people were in the same boat as my family. That is verified by the many comments to that effect on this thread.

If you could "personally care less" if my family canceled our trip, why on earth would you bother to even visit this thread, let alone post, and especially let alone a comment such as, "Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa"? Why not just skip it?

I don't see what I am doing as "using a forum as my soapbox" any more than any other thread anyone begins on this board. By your definition, isn't anyone who posts a personal opinion or personal experience thread using this forum as a soapbox? If we outlawed those threads, things would be pretty sparse around here.

As for the "idiot" comment, I don't even know what to say. I wasn't calling anyone an idiot and have no idea how you could come to that conclusion from what I wrote. The way the comment is written, it should be clear I was referring to the attitude many have toward those who are cancelling their trip, postponing their trip or merely expressing their anxiety over FP+. There is a subset of Super Happy WDWers who will not tolerate anything but sparkly, shiny remarks about WDW and if you break their positivity rule, you are dismissed as any number of unflattering things, one of which is an idiot. Please re-read the post. If you still do not understand, I am at a loss to explain it more fully.

Rebbyparker, I applaud your reading comprehension skills and may have to employ that Ignore button.
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