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Old 11-11-2013, 07:22 PM   #871
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Magic Bands are really same technology as KTTW card. Just in a wrist band instead of your wallet. Opens door , charges to your account and gets you into park. FP+ is new part.
And transmits a longer signal so photopass can gather pictures of you on rides, sensors can monitor your location, and provide interaction with rides and queues. But otherwise very similar to new RFID cards. RFID cards don't make your wrist sweat either.
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Old 11-11-2013, 10:02 PM   #872
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And transmits a longer signal so photopass can gather pictures of you on rides, sensors can monitor your location, and provide interaction with rides and queues. But otherwise very similar to new RFID cards. RFID cards don't make your wrist sweat either.
AH true ! But prefer the bands over cards any day ! Always felt I would lose it (because I did one time lol)
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Old 11-11-2013, 10:07 PM   #873
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Agreed, however, people are STILL reporting problems/issues/glitches with the MB's. Those should have been perfected before throwing any other new changes into the mix. I could deal with MB problems, if that was it. I could deal with FP+/MDE issues, if that was it. I could deal with tiered FP+ issues, if that was it. Throwing all these changes at people with less than stellar IT/CM's, again, is ridiculous.

And I'm really not complaining, I managed to get everything I needed done. Except MDE is having a problem holding onto my daughter's FP+. They fixed it this morning, I'm good (as long as I don't have to do this AGAIN). Just feeling disgruntled at what I've had to go through for this upcoming trip. I planned a trip last year for 18 people with the DDP for 7 days and didn't have this many problems.
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well sort of. It's the same technology as current KTTW cards which have NFC/RFID but not the same as the old KTTW cards which had magnetic stripe.

Also, I'm not sure they didn't change the back end system as the new KTTW/MB's can do things that the old ones couldn't like link to annual passes.

So that all should have been tested to death first.

and even being the same technology doesn't mean they dont need testing. When HDMI for tv's came out there were all different incompatibilities between certain bits of hardware. Bluetooth has been around for years now, yet it's still a crapshoot pairing a new cell phone to a new car.

sounds like somehow, something may be different between the KTTW cards and MB's. It's not giant widespread but there's more than a couple posts here about MB's not working and people using KTTW cards instead.

I'm ok with ALL the changes at once instead of changes gradually over the next few years. I think a lot more are finding the whole experience is working better than thought.
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Old 11-11-2013, 10:08 PM   #874
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AH true ! But prefer the bands over cards any day ! Always felt I would lose it (because I did one time lol)
I don't mind the bands. The future interactive components will be like the Disney of old. Cutting edge. We have a long wait though...
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Old 11-11-2013, 10:49 PM   #875
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As promised, I sent WDW a lengthy e-mail expressing concern about the tiered system. I received this in response. Apparently, in addition to headliners, Disney is also rationing the use of commas:

Thank you for choosing Walt Disney World® Resort as your magical vacation destination!

If you choose the FastPass+ option it is limited to three attractions all in the same theme park on each day of use and currently at Epcot® it is also a tiered system of choices but please be aware that
FastPass+ is an option, it is not a requirement, you can still use
Disney’s standard Fastpass® option instead if you would prefer where available. Each guest even in the same reservation, can choose FastPass+ or not, if it offered as part of the current test.

I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you and realize that this is not necessarily the answer you were looking for.

If you have questions or need further assistance, feel free to contact us.
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Old 11-11-2013, 10:53 PM   #876
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As promised, I sent WDW a lengthy e-mail expressing concern about the tiered system. I received this in response. Apparently, in addition to headliners, Disney is also rationing the use of commas:

Thank you for choosing Walt Disney World® Resort as your magical vacation destination!

If you choose the FastPass+ option it is limited to three attractions all in the same theme park on each day of use and currently at Epcot® it is also a tiered system of choices but please be aware that
FastPass+ is an option, it is not a requirement, you can still use
Disney’s standard Fastpass® option instead if you would prefer where available. Each guest even in the same reservation, can choose FastPass+ or not, if it offered as part of the current test.

I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you and realize that this is not necessarily the answer you were looking for.

If you have questions or need further assistance, feel free to contact us.


And don't forget that you can ride any ride using our standby system...
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Old 11-11-2013, 10:56 PM   #877
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Old 11-12-2013, 01:37 AM   #878
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I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you and realize that this is not necessarily the answer you were looking for.
At least they admit this. I sent a message asking about FP+ too and the answer I got didn't have anything whatsoever to do with my question other than the fact that it mentioned fastpass.
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Old 11-12-2013, 04:04 AM   #879
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At least they admit this. I sent a message asking about FP+ too and the answer I got didn't have anything whatsoever to do with my question other than the fact that it mentioned fastpass.
They didn't answer my question either, about when FP+ might be available to annual passholders staying offsite. In mine all they said was something about appreciating their annual passholders (even if we do choose to stay offsite and will not be able to use their FP+ system at this time). I didn't ask if we were appreciated, I wanted to know when FP+ might be available for us too.
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Old 11-12-2013, 09:16 AM   #880
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Rumor is that once system is rolled out completely normal fastpass will no longer be available.
That very well may be what ends up happening, but for now, those with upcoming trips can use it however they want. I have faith that Disney will make the customer experience the best it can be. This is the largest project Disney has taken on, and I doubt they want to lose visitors due to it. They are spending %1.5 BILLION dollars on this and they won't get it wrong. That being said, Disney has said some of the objectives of the project are as follows:


–By getting guests to plan more of their trips in advance, Disney expects they will spend more of their vacation time on Disney World property, instead of visiting Universal Orlando, shopping malls or other off-property attractions.

–By making food and souvenir purchases as easy as waving a wristband in front of a scanner — the same cash-free model that has been so lucrative for the cruise industry — Disney thinks guests will spend more money overall.

–By collecting more personal data about visitors, from their favorite characters to their spending habits, Disney hopes to develop more effective sales offers customized for individual families.

-Disney thinks MyMagic–will help in other areas, too, from luring more people into company-owned hotels to establishing a new souvenir line in the form of MagicBand accessories.


In the end, it may look very different from any of the tests, but Disney won't ruin their brand or make the experience any less magical.
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Old 11-12-2013, 09:24 AM   #881
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In the end, it may look very different from any of the tests, but Disney won't ruin their brand or make the experience any less magical.
Ultimately I agree. But many many people have thousands of dollars wrapped up in trips in the short term. And it's going to take a while for them to get it right. Some can have a less than magical trip and have the cash to come back next year and try again. Some just don't. Those are the ones I feel for most.
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The problem right now IMO is that. Not everyone has access to FP+ and as an alternative "normal" FP is NOT available. What I mean by that is our experience in October (and also mentioned by many others) is that FP for headliners were gone very early in the day AND the times available even early in the morning were for late in the afternoon or evening. In the past we were able to get FP for many rides in the morning, afternoon and even the evening if not a busy time of year. If I had a trip planned during Nov./Dec. busy season and did not have FP+ I would be very concerned unless you don't mind riding SB each day. That is, unless, the purpose of my trip was to see decorations and atmosphere more than rides.
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I just wish (and I know I'm dreaming) that Disney would put out some kind of PR saying, "from this date to this date, we will be doing this and the rules are..." and "from this date to this date we will be doing this and the rules are...". That's all, I just want to know what's what when I'm going to be there. If I've played by their rules so far and used their technology and customized MB's and made ADR's and Wishes Dessert Party and Sleigh Ride reservations and FP+ selections then I've done my part. I just wish they would do theirs and let me know what the situation is going to be when my trip arrives. Not really a lot to ask?
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Ultimately I agree. But many many people have thousands of dollars wrapped up in trips in the short term. And it's going to take a while for them to get it right. Some can have a less than magical trip and have the cash to come back next year and try again. Some just don't. Those are the ones I feel for most.
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The problem right now IMO is that. Not everyone has access to FP+ and as an alternative "normal" FP is NOT available. What I mean by that is our experience in October (and also mentioned by many others) is that FP for headliners were gone very early in the day AND the times available even early in the morning were for late in the afternoon or evening. In the past we were able to get FP for many rides in the morning, afternoon and even the evening if not a busy time of year. If I had a trip planned during Nov./Dec. busy season and did not have FP+ I would be very concerned unless you don't mind riding SB each day. That is, unless, the purpose of my trip was to see decorations and atmosphere more than rides.
As has been discussed many times here early October was a busier then expected time at WDW causing issues with FP gone at few top rides like TSMM soon after RD. Currently during lower crowd period that does not appear to be a problem. I have only been to WDW during moderate crowd periods and even then we were not able to pull 6 to 8 FP- per day and many times for TSMM FP- would still be gone by mid day or pull only very late evening times. Even without FP+ I doubt that anyone going during the holiday season was able to freely pick FP- for the top rides throughout the day or secure 6-8 FP per day. Using RP and getting FP early has (and still will be) required strategy for visting WDW during holidays, even with FP+ in place. And yes you can travel to WDW in November and December and experience low crowds as long as avoid Thanksgiving and Christmas Breaks - that even with FP- have always been a challenge to plan trips for due to high crowd volumes
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