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Old 11-01-2013, 10:04 AM   #181
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Fair enough. But if FP has never been a big part of YOUR touring plan then why should we care about what you think about the latest change? Apparently if this is the way it will be rolled out or even if it's just a test it won't effect you either way.
Well, because I am participating in the test. Isn't the reasoning to beta test is to give feedback? I'm going into this impartially. With no stakes in either side and give feedback in a non biased capacity.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:05 AM   #182
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I thought the very thing people liked about FP+ was that it allowed you to sleep in and not do rope drop.
That's true for some people, but not for others.

Because we are often forced to schedule our visits at holiday times, our plan would be to arrive at opening as always, and do as many things as possible. If we went to a park in the evening we wouldn't do major attractions because FPs were gone and standby lines were longer than we were willing to wait, especially because we would have done the headliners already in the morning.

So, my view of it is that one headliner in the evening is better than none, though it may not be as good as two. All this change would do to me is make the main attraction that we don't have a FP+ for the first priority in the morning in case we decide to skip the second if the line is already too long.

I'm surprised that people didn't see this coming (not today, but eventually) based on how the screens have been laid out and what has been said about where this is eventually headed.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:06 AM   #183
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Frankly, I'm surprised it has taken them this long to get around to tiering the FP+ selections. If you recall, back in 2012 (I believe) when they first started testing the notion of FP reservations, the selections were tiered. You could only choose one e-ticket and then one or two from other tiers. When we took the plunge with FP+ in Aug. I was pleasantly surprised to find out we could select our FP+ as we wanted.

For those with vacations during the holidays, good luck. I wouldn't be happy about taking my chances with FP- for either Soarin' or TT considering the reports of FP- being gone so quickly in the morning, but who knows, this may actually help, and it will work out for you for the better.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:06 AM   #184
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:07 AM   #185
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Hope to see ya there! I'm not going to lie and say I don't have any sort of jitters, but you know it is what it is. I'll just make the best of it. After all, in the end it just boils down to vacation time with family.
I'm sure we'll have a great time because I believe in "A spoonful of sugar".

Our itinerary is:
MK night of 27th
MK morning of 28th with AK in the evening
HS on 29th
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MK on Dec. 1
Ak & HS on 2

Just look for the goofy big guy laughing his butt off. That would be me.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:08 AM   #186
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So, my view of it is that one headliner in the evening is better than none, though it may not be as good as two. All this change would do to me is make the main attraction that we don't have a FP+ for the first priority in the morning in case we decide to skip the second if the line is already too long.
This. So the people who want to sleep will get to ride their headliner. The people who want more headliners will get there early and still get their headliners. FOR NOW.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:09 AM   #187
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I really think they need to rethink this. Offer everyone ONE FP+ per day, with TSMM and the new mine coaster not included at all. I could see that as a value added benefit, while not messing as much with the entire pool of available FPs. Then allow people to add FP+ slots once the arrive IN the park and have used the one they had scheduled, or maybe one every 2 or 3 hours after they scan their ticket at the gate.
Hopefully the FP+ data will make it crystal clear that they need to fast-track additional attractions for Epcot, DHS, and Animal Kingdom.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:09 AM   #188
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I would too. But the big supporters of FP+ seem to be the late sleepers. If you still have to be there at rope drop, it sort of negates that benefit.

In response to the complaint about only being able to get a FP+ for either TT or Soarin, someone suggested doing one at RD. That's fixing a problem that wasn't there until they decided to fix something that wasn't broken.
The problem was that, during a busy time, late sleepers couldn't do EITHER Test Track or Soarin without long waits because FPs would be gone. Now they can at least do one of them.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:09 AM   #189
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I'm sure we'll have a great time because I believe in "A spoonful of sugar".

Our itinerary is:
MK night of 27th
MK morning of 28th with AK in the evening
HS on 29th
EP on 30th
MK on Dec. 1
Ak & HS on 2

Just look for the goofy big guy laughing his butt off. That would be me.
I'll keep an eye out! I'll be the goofy bald headed guy doing the dance of the sugar plum fairies.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:11 AM   #190
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I made the fastpass+ for these two rides a while ago. I went to take a picture of the screen to show them when I got there. Now my TT time says unknown. This really makes me upset.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:11 AM   #191
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And what do you do when the CM stands in front of the regular FP machine and will not let you pull one because they see your MB? 2 reports of this at AK and when they said they were told they could pull regular FP in addition to FP+ the answer was go to GR and talk to them.

This was at KS I would be pretty upset to have to push my sons wheelchair all the way back to GR???
Don't let them see the bands. Take them off or stick your hand in your pocket. Have 1 person without the band go to the FP machine.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:11 AM   #192
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Hopefully the FP+ data will make it crystal clear that they need to fast-track additional attractions for Epcot, DHS, and Animal Kingdom.
One would think. But I'm guessing this was supposed to be their means of maximizing "unused capacity" on existing rides instead of adding too many new ones.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:12 AM   #193
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This. So the people who want to sleep will get to ride their headliner. The people who want more headliners will get there early and still get their headliners. FOR NOW.
Okay, well how would you feel if the folks staying at GF got two ride all of the headliners (they could book three of whatever) but the folks staying at Pop only got one? That's where this is headed. Also, however you want to rationalize it, it doesn't change the fact that this is a downgrade for everyone.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:13 AM   #194
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It was....having to book FP+ and also be there for rope drop to get on rides would be double disney torture.
Yeah, I'm with you on that, I don't like scheduling things and I hate getting up early. I dealt with the scheduling things because then I wouldn't have to worry about rope drop. Now I have to deal with both. Total Disney Torture.

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What about if this is only a test, and this will not be the norm? Dare to think!
What about if the test is during my vacation and the norm for next year doesn't affect me? Dare to think!

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Well, because I am participating in the test. Isn't the reasoning to beta test is to give feedback? I'm going into this impartially. With no stakes in either side and give feedback in a non biased capacity.
Of course you can give feedback, and as a repeat visitor to WDW your feedback is important, however, you are biased. Your bias is skewed toward someone who doesn't use FP normally, but it is still biased, don't fool yourself.

BTW, is anyone having problems with page 12 of this thread. I'm getting malware warnings and it won't load.
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Can we get Dr Disney MD in here to tell us how great this is?
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