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Old 10-21-2013, 11:55 AM   #31
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Maybe Disney should drop Donald from the FP- promotions and design a new character to promote FP+. They could call him "Glitch".
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Old 10-21-2013, 12:00 PM   #32
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Maybe Disney should drop Donald from the FP- promotions and design a new character to promote FP+. They could call him "Glitch".
Ha! Like I said last week when this happened, this isn't a glitch. This is how FP will be thanks to FP+.

I feel terrible for people that are there now, stuck in those terrible lines. What a letdown for them, especially if this is their first trip. :-(
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Old 10-21-2013, 12:09 PM   #33
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Ha! Like I said last week when this happened, this isn't a glitch. This is how FP will be thanks to FP+.

I feel terrible for people that are there now, stuck in those terrible lines. What a letdown for them, especially if this is their first trip. :-(
I didn't think it was a glitch last week either, but I got promptly told that I was wrong. It had nothing to do with FP+. Period.

I keep trying to tell my coworker, who's going Thanksgiving week, staying at POR and has done NOTHING regarding FP+, that she needs to plan her FP+. Lead a horse to water...
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Old 10-21-2013, 12:47 PM   #34
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Mmm... Beverly!
Now we're waiting for The Seas, the standby line is out past the monorail track.
Given that this appears to be "the new normal" I'm wondering if we should change our FP+ selections...

I had originally booked Soarin' because it's so popular and we don't love it enough to wait in a long line for it. But if we miss out on Soarin', we wouldn't be all that upset. We didn't book The Seas because it's usually such a short wait. We'd be very upset if we missed this ride due to a crazy long line. If it's got such a long wait now, I'm wondering if we should switch our FP+ to be for Nemo instead of Soarin'... this is crazy!
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Old 10-21-2013, 12:48 PM   #35
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Welcome to the wonderful world if FP+.
While I agree with you about the paradigm shift about to happen, that can't be the only reason here. FP+ is only being used by hundreds of people. What happens when 40K try to get their Sorain' and TT passes?
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Old 10-21-2013, 12:52 PM   #36
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Maybe Disney should drop Donald from the FP- promotions and design a new character to promote FP+. They could call him "Glitch".
Ayep.

http://disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3187150


This seriously a mess. I am actually happy we are not taking our annual fall WDW trip this year.

I will be interested in seeing how Disney addresses this train wreck. Or if they will just ride it into normalcy. I think (know) it will eventually end up costing them visitors.
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Old 10-21-2013, 01:26 PM   #37
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We're going this December. Although we're DVC members, we're unlikely to return until next December. That should give this system time to mature a little. I'll reserve judgement until next December's trip.

I *do* see great potential for this system. I only hope that some of Disney's billion+ investment will go to overhauling some of the poorer, clunkier parts of this. It needs to run seamlessly. To do that, both the hardware and the software need to be up to snuff. For gosh sakes, my PHONE has a quad core processor and 1gb RAM. We used less computing power to land on the moon. It's time to at least come into the 2000s Disney!
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Old 10-21-2013, 01:35 PM   #38
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Ha! Like I said last week when this happened, this isn't a glitch. This is how FP will be thanks to FP+.

I feel terrible for people that are there now, stuck in those terrible lines. What a letdown for them, especially if this is their first trip. :-(
I agree with you. I wish I didn't and was able to base it on something, but I really do think that this is the new FP system as we are going to have to get to know it

What other rides that previously didnt have FP have been added to the FP+ system at Epcot? Anything? I hope none of them are live yet ... because supposedly adding other attractions (the ones that typically don't need FP, if you know anything about the Disney parks) were going to draw some of the crowds out and disperse them in other parts of the parks, even if it was based on ignorance, or sheer desperation to ride something .... anything!

I can't see Disney being able to keep this system as it is without doing something about it. It's not like WDW has just appeared on the scene and there are no past experiences to refer to; they have thousands upon thousands of guests who have formed a clear understanding of the old system and who based expectations on what could be accomplished in a trip on this basis. We're not going to go down quietly

Just hope that the budget includes covering extensive additional staffing for Guest Services for a while!
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Old 10-21-2013, 01:44 PM   #39
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Ha! Like I said last week when this happened, this isn't a glitch. This is how FP will be thanks to FP+.
Not quite. Once FP+ is rolled out, there won't be any more FP-, so you won't have to worry about FP- running out early in the day.

But I agree with you that this isn't a "glitch." FP- slots are being replaced with FP+ slots, so there are fewer FP- slots available, but everyone is still able to use FP- so they are running out earlier.

I am not sure why this is making everyone so upset.
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Meet Disney's new MDE spokesperson.

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Old 10-21-2013, 01:52 PM   #41
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9:15 and the standby line is 40 minutes and fast pass return is 5:55-6:55 On the bright side, I'm at Epcot! ddc4d
I love Epcot because visiting all the countries fascinates me. I also feel that it has the most to offer outside of the rides. Plus F&W is going on. Have you been yet? Do you have a favorite dish? I get on the red eye from Seattle in 11 days!!!
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I know we don't know the answer but are FP- being replaced by a one to one basis with FP+? I could see FP- running out quicker if they are cutting back. But if the total FP count is remaining the same why is the standby line so much longer? Is it just that more crowded? If there are fewer FP total then the standby line could be longer but it should move faster.
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Old 10-21-2013, 02:00 PM   #44
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My DD was at WDW from 10/7 - 10/13. She had the MagicBand and used FP+. She did not like FP+ at all. She said the MagicBand was okay for certain things but did not like making FP reservations ahead of time and also did not like that you couldn't get FP's in more than one park each day. She said that standby lines were extremely long (she thought it was because of the Food and Wine Festival). We've been to WDW a couple of times during F & W and the only park that was ever really crowded was EPCOT on the weekends. I think the long standby lines are due to the FP+ system.

When she returned she had to fill out a survey regarding the whole MagicBand system. When filling out the survey, she let them know that she didn't like the FP+ system. Hopefully they will listen to guest feedback and make changes to the FP+ system.

I am hoping this is all resolved before our trip in May. We do not like to plan ahead of time and usually pick the park we are going to visit each morning at breakfast. My DH and I definitely will ask for cards instead of the MagicBand as neither one of us wants to wear anything on our wrists.
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Old 10-21-2013, 02:10 PM   #45
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We are here now and it is busy. Fast pass plus saved the day we were able to get soarin, test track, and mission space done early with hardly a wait. And we got a every ride we wanted to ride done in like 4 hours at MK yesterday. It's a great option to be able to change attractions on the fly. Only advice I have is STOP listening to touring sites for crowd levels and best park which day and do a little reading and you will easily be able to figure the best touring plan for u and ur family. Too many people read those charts like they are scripture.
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