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Old 10-20-2013, 05:32 PM   #31
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My point being people are threatening to cancel trips because of it.
People don't have the right to not want to be a tester?
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Old 10-20-2013, 05:35 PM   #32
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We had MB/FP+ on our trip a couple of weeks ago. It was a bit confusing setting it up, but we had no problems at all with the functions once we arrived.

I'm sorry for those who are swept up by the hysteria over the MBs. If you are participating chances are it will go pretty well, if not there are CMs to help.

If you aren't participating, well...most people aren't. You'll be fine too.
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Old 10-20-2013, 05:36 PM   #33
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Testing is over as of tomorrow. Tomorrow it is rolled out live to every resort guest. At least that is what I heard anyway. ;-)
Testing is not over, they are just opening the testing to all the resorts so there won't be resorts that are not testing anymore. CM told me last night that they were notified that testing would be at least thru Jan 5th. And, that guest could still use Kttw cards they will receive at check in to pull paper FP's to get extra fp's to help when park hopping or staying in same park.
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Old 10-20-2013, 05:38 PM   #34
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People have rights and choices. They can decide to go or not go, pretty simple if you ask me. Although, I thought I remembered hearing that you don't have to participate if you don't want to. It's not Disney's fault if someone makes that decision and it doesn't work out for them.

If someone makes the choice to stay offsite at this time and can't participate, that's not Disney's fault either. They are a business and have the right to make decisions that work for their company. It's no secret that they would prefer that people stay onsite.
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Old 10-20-2013, 05:38 PM   #35
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It's a test...you have to expect issues?

It's MY VACATION. One I am shelling out a LOT of money for. I expect it to be a vacation. No hassles.

I have to thank all of the brave folks who have volunteered to be Disney's unpaid guinea pigs in all this, cause I would never have agreed to their "invitation" to test. I can only hope that there is some semblance of order come next September when I go.
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Old 10-20-2013, 05:44 PM   #36
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The only thing that really concerns me about this test is the double-dipping by people with MBs (of which I will be one if you still can in December). Doesn't this defeat the purpose of the test if people with MBs can go beyond the parameters of the test and pull paper Fastpasses anyway? How can Disney gauge if the '3 per day at one park' thing works?
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Old 10-20-2013, 05:46 PM   #37
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The only thing that really concerns me about this test is the double-dipping by people with MBs (of which I will be one if you still can in December). Doesn't this defeat the purpose of the test if people with MBs can go beyond the parameters of the test and pull paper Fastpasses anyway? How can Disney gauge if the '3 per day at one park' thing works?
They may pull the FP- system soon anyway, so the double dipping might not be an issue.
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Old 10-20-2013, 05:46 PM   #38
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People have rights and choices. They can decide to go or not go, pretty simple if you ask me. Although, I thought I remembered hearing that you don't have to participate if you don't want to. It's not Disney's fault if someone makes that decision and it doesn't work out for them.
I didn't say it was Disney's fault. I just think it's a bit much to call people hysterical, over-sensitive, etc because some are choosing not to go while the bugs are getting worked out.

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If someone makes the choice to stay offsite at this time and can't participate, that's not Disney's fault either. They are a business and have the right to make decisions that work for their company. It's no secret that they would prefer that people stay onsite.
Again, no one said Disney doesn't have that right. Of course they will do what they need to do. Disney also has to accept that when their decisions affect a number of people's vacations in a negative way, that people will reconsider where they vacation. It goes both ways.

Personally, I wouldn't reschedule a vacation because of FP+. I would have enjoyed being a tester, probably. I tend to like doing their surveys and such :P But we stay at SoG, which Disney can't decide if they're going to treat as an on-site property or not (as we're eligible for EMH, but not the dining plan/parking). It'd be nice if they'd make up their mind there.
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They should consider SoG a Disney property, I agree.
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Old 10-20-2013, 05:48 PM   #40
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Doesn't this defeat the purpose of the test if people with MBs can go beyond the parameters of the test and pull paper Fastpasses anyway? How can Disney gauge if the '3 per day at one park' thing works?
That's what many people with concerns have been asking since testing started last winter.
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It's MY VACATION. One I am shelling out a LOT of money for. I expect it to be a vacation. No hassles.

I have to thank all of the brave folks who have volunteered to be Disney's unpaid guinea pigs in all this, cause I would never have agreed to their "invitation" to test. I can only hope that there is some semblance of order come next September when I go.
If someone doesn't think they will enjoy it due to the testing they should absolutely wait a year or two for the bugs to be worked out, even die hard Disney fans have Disneyland as a great alternative.

Vacation is supposed to be fun, if someone doesn't think they'll have fun they are just wasting their money and time.
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Old 10-20-2013, 05:54 PM   #42
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Are there any hard statistics or polls about this? It would be nice if those having problems are few in number.
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Old 10-20-2013, 06:00 PM   #43
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I think the addition of parades and shows will actually help to spread people out during testing. Mostly because they have paper FPs too. Once we go to full roll-out, will people use their 3 for headliners instead? I also think 3 FP+ and only one park is testing only.

My theory for full rollout-registered ph tickets will have multiple park FP choices and using the MDE app while in a park will allow you to schedule additional "day of" FP. I do believe that onsite guests will get some sort of advantage like the 180+10 perk for ADRs.

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Old 10-20-2013, 06:13 PM   #44
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The so called 'double dipping' is being allowed because they are testing and they need people to help them test. Not sure how it's double the amt of fp's, as guests not testing get unlimited access to fp. And I can't imagine many people would agree to test disney's product, and have less access to rides than other guests, or feel ever so lucky to be 'invited' to be a guinea pig if they were told "Hey, lucky vacationer, help us test, and you will get less FP's than others, less than others even though you spent as much as any other guests who will still get unlimited access to fp rides, even those staying offsite. You are special and get the limited edition 3 FP+ and you will be limited to only use them in one park. So, even though you have spent extra money for PH's, you are lucky you won't have to worry about going to the bother of getting FP's in both parks as that won't be allowed anyway. And, because its a test, thing may work great or things may possibly glitch or not even work at all, it's a toss up, but remember to just be happy you are lucky to be a chosen tester so no complaining!"
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Old 10-20-2013, 06:30 PM   #45
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People have rights and choices. They can decide to go or not go, pretty simple if you ask me. Although, I thought I remembered hearing that you don't have to participate if you don't want to. It's not Disney's fault if someone makes that decision and it doesn't work out for them.
Opting out of FP+ is no longer a meaningful choice. It seems pretty clear the new system is affecting the availability of regular fast passes, and that's even before the roll out to all the resorts in a couple of weeks. The guys from the Unofficial Guide reported that last Wednesday FP's for Soarin', Toy Story, etc. were gone earlier than they were on New Year's Eve. That shouldn't be the case mid-week in mid-October, despite fall-breakers.

And while it's true that people have choices, we made the choice to book our upcoming trip before all this craziness started. Had I known 6 months ago what I know now, we might have decided to spend our hard-earned vacation dollars elsewhere this year. People are accustomed to touring Disney in a particular way. It's expensive, but we can usually be confident we'll get what we consider a good value there. Not so right now--it's up in the air. It's not really an option for us because we are traveling with a group, but I can see why people would hold off on a trip at the moment.

The MDE website and app are appalling--slow, glitchy, and unnecessarily time-consuming to navigate. And even putting aside the fact that I have no desire to schedule a ride 60 days in advance, I couldn't even get decent times when I tried to do that. It's absurd that you can't choose each FP+ individually but must book all 3 in a block according to what the stupid app decides to give you (I guess you could just choose one attraction at a time and then go back through the whole stupid system for the other two, but who has time for that?)

Seriously, I've stayed out of most of the FP+ whining here, but I can't believe Disney is letting this piece of junk go live (trying so hard to resist the obvious comparison here ).
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