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Old 10-01-2013, 09:17 AM   #1
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What is the American Dream?

Has it changed from that of our ancestors?
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Old 10-01-2013, 09:21 AM   #2
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What I believe the American dream use to be is to own your own home. I definately believe it has changed because so many people realize now owning a home is like owning a sick cat. Kind of a money pit. So many people rent now. It's just easier.

I think the American dream now is to be able to provide for your family without racking up a ton of debt.
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Old 10-01-2013, 09:46 AM   #3
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Old 10-01-2013, 09:48 AM   #4
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What I believe the American dream use to be is to own your own home. I definately believe it has changed because so many people realize now owning a home is like owning a sick cat. Kind of a money pit. So many people rent now. It's just easier.

I think the American dream now is to be able to provide for your family without racking up a ton of debt.
Sorry, I disagree, but we are all entitled to our opinions. I still think it is the American Dream (or at least what is considered that ). There are many things that could fill that niche.

There are many affordable starter homes that couples can afford. It's true it may not be for everyone. There is upkeep, but we are willing for that rather than see all our $$'s go to pay someone else's mortgage. After hard work, $$'s we could have spent renting, we now own our home free and clear - such a rewarding feeling, and nowhere near a 'money pit'. We started small and worked up. But, to each their own.
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Old 10-01-2013, 09:57 AM   #5
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I'm not sure. I know that my older sons, ages 23 and 20, have no desire at all to own a house. Not even my oldest who is in a fairly long-term and stable relationship. I would say they want a nice place to live but none of the responsibility or risk that comes with home ownership. They have after all been witness to the great housing bubble and collapse. They don't view houses as security and wealth, but rather as playing with fire. Maybe that will change if they ever have children themselves. Being responsible for children kind of brings on nesting instincts.

I would say their dreams are to have enough money and flexibility in their lives to do all the travel and hobbies they enjoy. For my oldest especially he likes the idea of flexibility. Time here....time there, moving to different places and doing different things and changing it often enough to keep it interesting. It's actually what their Father and I kind of dream of for retirement.

They probably wouldn't use the word "security," but I think they want to feel enough security to not ever have to worry if they'll be able to pay their bills next month, 5 years from now, and on through the decades.
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Old 10-01-2013, 09:58 AM   #6
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What I believe the American dream use to be is to own your own home. I definately believe it has changed because so many people realize now owning a home is like owning a sick cat. Kind of a money pit. So many people rent now. It's just easier. I think the American dream now is to be able to provide for your family without racking up a ton of debt.
Hahahaha! Great description! If my husband ever dies on me I'm renting a house and leasing a car!

I think the American dream has always been to want more for the kids than the previous generation. I see it in the generation below me still. Sometimes in different ways. I see a lot of families that are changing the way they deal with one another. Stopping abuse cycles, addiction cycles and codependency.

I admit that I am biased in this due to the type of people i am around in the day to day.
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Old 10-01-2013, 10:04 AM   #7
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What I believe the American dream use to be is to own your own home. I definately believe it has changed because so many people realize now owning a home is like owning a sick cat. Kind of a money pit. So many people rent now. It's just easier.

I think the American dream now is to be able to provide for your family without racking up a ton of debt.
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Old 10-01-2013, 10:10 AM   #8
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The American dream to me, as Ive understood it, is a more like ideals. Its the ability to to have opportunities to get and accomplish what you find important and what you want in life.

Having it all is relative. That changes within people and within soceity. But this country was about providing the freedoms so you can have opportunities to work hard and obtain what you want and need. I still believe its what its all about.
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Old 10-02-2013, 10:12 AM   #9
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Sorry, I disagree, but we are all entitled to our opinions. I still think it is the American Dream (or at least what is considered that ). There are many things that could fill that niche.

There are many affordable starter homes that couples can afford. It's true it may not be for everyone. There is upkeep, but we are willing for that rather than see all our $$'s go to pay someone else's mortgage. After hard work, $$'s we could have spent renting, we now own our home free and clear - such a rewarding feeling, and nowhere near a 'money pit'. We started small and worked up. But, to each their own.
I own my home. I'm just going by what I think is the trend. Back in the day people purchased their one home, raised their kids there, 30 years later had a mortgage burning party, and lived out the rest of their lives there. Nowadays people move on average every 7 years. Lots of people (especially with jobs that move them around a lot) rent homes. Not being tied down is very appealing to a lot of people. It doesn't mean they can't afford a home. They just don't want the burdens that come with owning a home.

People of course are going to buy homes. I just don't know if its what it use to mean. I just want to be able to afford my lifestyle. That's my dream and I'm living it.
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Old 10-02-2013, 10:17 AM   #10
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I can't imagine not wanting to own my own home! I guess that shows how different perspectives are depending on where you live in the country. My husband and I are homeowners. We are planning to move soon and are building right now. I hate the idea of having to move into a rental if our current house sells before our new house is ready.


Personally, I always thought that the American dream was about having a good, honest job that allowed for you to provide for yourself and your family. That you weren't reliant on other people for the basic things in life.
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Old 10-02-2013, 10:19 AM   #11
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Old 10-02-2013, 10:23 AM   #12
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I always likened the American dream to having the ability to provide for yourself and family without the reliance on others.

It seems today the american dream is how can I get the gov. to keep me up fully without having to work/be responsible for any of it.

The gov. in turn uses this reliance to buy votes at election time.
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Old 10-02-2013, 10:27 AM   #13
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I always likened the American dream to having the ability to provide for yourself and family without the reliance on others.

It seems today the american dream is how can I get the gov. to keep me up fully without having to work/be responsible for any of it.

The gov. in turn uses this reliance to buy votes at election time.
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Old 10-02-2013, 10:34 AM   #14
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I can't imagine not wanting to own my own home! I guess that shows how different perspectives are depending on where you live in the country. My husband and I are homeowners. We are planning to move soon and are building right now. I hate the idea of having to move into a rental if our current house sells before our new house is ready.


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I always likened the American dream to having the ability to provide for yourself and family without the reliance on others.It seems today the american dream is how can I get the gov. to keep me up fully without having to work/be responsible for any of it.

The gov. in turn uses this reliance to buy votes at election time.
That is hardly unique to the U.S. I never understood this idea that America was THE place to go to make all your dreams come true and so on.
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That is hardly unique to the U.S. I never understood this idea that America was THE place to go to make all your dreams come true and so on.
History. My grands came on the boat from Ireland. For them it was the "American dream". They were barely making it in their home country.

That appreciation has been passed down. It isn't anything against you and your country just a realization tha for many this was the place where their history changed for the better.
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