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Old 10-28-2013, 12:19 AM   #1036
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. Are we able to get our DAS Cards on the 22nd at one of the GR windows outside of one of the parks? DS will be able to do better with that since we usually ride the Monorail our first night anyway than have to go to GR at our first park when he is ready to go. With a new program he will spend 1/2 an hour holding up the line as to how HE thinks it should be and how HE will fix it when HE works for Disney. Yep we've tried to prepare him for the difference...Gotta love the Aspie mind.
Yes you can get a DAS at the GS that are outside of the turnstiles. We did this at MK
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Old 10-28-2013, 12:28 AM   #1037
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Yes you can get a DAS at the GS that are outside of the turnstiles. We did this at MK
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Old 10-28-2013, 12:34 AM   #1038
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The reason is that there was a perception that it reduced wait times. And yes, there were attractions where it did and attractions where it didn't. I did do some comparisons on wait times by simply noting the standby line times throughout the day and noting how long I waited at each attraction and overall it was within 15 minutes of the standby lines each day I did this. But there were attractions where the wait was substantially shorter and ones that were longer. The ones that were longer were usually the ones that had stairs or other physical barriers.

Now the potential for abuse is if someone only used the GAC on the attractions that had the shorter waits. Someone abusing the system had the ability to do just these and use the regular lines at other attractions.

Given this, the wait times are not really an issue in and of themselves, what is an issue is the extra traveling. Once this is fixed, most people that truly needed the GAC will likely find that they are able to do more attractions under the new system.
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Interesting findings in your research. We would see a standby wait time for Splash Mtn of at least 60 min, if not more, and using the GAC we were on and off the ride in under 30 min and that INCLUDED the ride time. Using an ECV I would board at the exit because of the stairs.

But I have to disagree with you on being able to do more attractions....maybe most people. But some due to individual circumstances will be more limited under this system. But at this point Disney has made its decision and it is what it is.
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Old 10-28-2013, 01:23 AM   #1039
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Interesting findings in your research. We would see a standby wait time for Splash Mtn of at least 60 min, if not more, and using the GAC we were on and off the ride in under 30 min and that INCLUDED the ride time. Using an ECV I would board at the exit because of the stairs.

But I have to disagree with you on being able to do more attractions....maybe most people. But some due to individual circumstances will be more limited under this system. But at this point Disney has made its decision and it is what it is.
I definitely used the word most for a reason, there will be exceptions, as you say depending on needs. These are based on my experiences and my needs, but it did seem to average out.
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Old 10-28-2013, 01:43 AM   #1040
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Some days while we are there I will, and some we are going solo. For my hubby it is a work/ vacation trip. But I imagine all the single parents that are traveling with just their SN children are having similar thoughts. Maybe disney should start providing "runners" for all of us. Lol.
If you explain at Guest Services, they may be able to offer extra accommodations for the days you are solo. ReAds might be appropriate but they'd have to decide that.
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Old 10-28-2013, 06:46 AM   #1041
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Do you realize that KPeveler uses manual wheelchair in her everyday life? She is saying that she cannot push herself around in circles all day, and I quite agree with her that it is asking way too much from people who are already at a disadvantage physically/cognitively.
Then perhaps an ECV would be more useful? Also, there's no need to leave the area if one is waiting for a return time. So no need to backtrack at all.
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Old 10-28-2013, 06:57 AM   #1042
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Yes but those were quite a wait too and yes we had FP+ on one ride a day. Other passes were available but too wild for her. For some reason mobs were unreal when we were there. We have gone every October for last 14 years and never have we seen it so mobbed. Most of the lowkey ride fastpasses were gone by the time we got there.

We ended up in heat more then usual because we really had no place to go except shops. There was no seats in quick food places as you had to buy food to sit in there. We wouldn't take seats from someone anyway.

Having so little rides using the DAS was really not worth it. My mom is happy going on Haunted Mansion, Winnie the Pooh, Small World, and Ariel ride. We don't do the really popular rides but wow, the fastpass lines were longer then stand by. Was a crazy week. IASM ecv line we waited in an hour. At least it was out of the heat and sun but by then she was just beat and getting cranky. LOL She doesn't handle her 80s well.

She is on meds that she needs to really keep out of the sun most of time and can't take heat much. We try to get in the park and out no longer then 4 hours. With this trip we were lucky to ride anything 3 times each day. We spent over 10k on this trip and can say this is truly the first trip that wasn't worth even going to WDW.

DAS is not for us so Disney will be out of my future for quite a while.
You had 3 FP+, and FP, and a DAS - what exactly limited you to only 3 rides each day, or do you mean riding the same ride 3 times? You listed 4 rides for MK, and you have 5 passes to ride with, so I'm just not getting the issue?
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Old 10-28-2013, 08:18 AM   #1043
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Yes but those were quite a wait too and yes we had FP+ on one ride a day. Other passes were available but too wild for her. For some reason mobs were unreal when we were there. We have gone every October for last 14 years and never have we seen it so mobbed. Most of the lowkey ride fastpasses were gone by the time we got there.

We ended up in heat more then usual because we really had no place to go except shops. There was no seats in quick food places as you had to buy food to sit in there. We wouldn't take seats from someone anyway.

Having so little rides using the DAS was really not worth it. My mom is happy going on Haunted Mansion, Winnie the Pooh, Small World, and Ariel ride. We don't do the really popular rides but wow, the fastpass lines were longer then stand by. Was a crazy week. IASM ecv line we waited in an hour. At least it was out of the heat and sun but by then she was just beat and getting cranky. LOL She doesn't handle her 80s well.

She is on meds that she needs to really keep out of the sun most of time and can't take heat much. We try to get in the park and out no longer then 4 hours. With this trip we were lucky to ride anything 3 times each day. We spent over 10k on this trip and can say this is truly the first trip that wasn't worth even going to WDW.

DAS is not for us so Disney will be out of my future for quite a while.
I am sorry that you had a rough time. I have a few reccommendations for getting out of the sun at MK.

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Down by the river boat, there are benches that are under cover

In Adventureland on the side opposite Treehouse and JC there are some vestibules between the shops, also Tortuga Taven across from POTC is usually closed and there is covered seating

In Frontierland under the train station next to Splash Mountain (Next to the FP machines)

In Fantasyland, there is a covered area next to the Storybook Circus Train station where they give FP for Goofy and Dumbo.

Tomorrowland - The Tomorrowland Terrace is rarely open. The upper level next to the bathroom is usually empty.

As for sitting in Counter service locations, I don't feel as bad if I buy a soda or a snack. That makes me a paying customer.
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Old 10-28-2013, 08:34 AM   #1044
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If you are using stroller as wheelchair, you'll be sent to an additional waiting area at tsm, Buzz, Jc, the new ariel voyage of the little mermaid, and a few other attractions. There may be additional wait time and the DAS does note that waits may be longer in the terms of agreement.
OK. Thanks. At those places I could just park the stroller like everyone else, and then we wouldn't be backing up the accessible queue for those that really need it, correct?
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Yes you can get a DAS at the GS that are outside of the turnstiles. We did this at MK
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Going the night of arrival (but not going into the parks) to get a DAS didn't ever occur to me. Thank you so much for posting this! I was going o buy a park ticket for our night of arrival just to do this! I am so glad to know you didn't even have to go into the park to do it.
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Old 10-28-2013, 11:21 AM   #1047
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I am sorry that you had a rough time. I have a few reccommendations for getting out of the sun at MK.

Shows
Tiki Room
Philharmagic
Country Bears
Carousel of Progress

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POTC
IASW

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Down by the river boat, there are benches that are under cover

In Adventureland on the side opposite Treehouse and JC there are some vestibules between the shops, also Tortuga Taven across from POTC is usually closed and there is covered seating

In Frontierland under the train station next to Splash Mountain (Next to the FP machines)

In Fantasyland, there is a covered area next to the Storybook Circus Train station where they give FP for Goofy and Dumbo.

Tomorrowland - The Tomorrowland Terrace is rarely open. The upper level next to the bathroom is usually empty.

As for sitting in Counter service locations, I don't feel as bad if I buy a soda or a snack. That makes me a paying customer.
Thanks for all the ideas. As I said the places were mobbed. My mom was really getting frustrated maneuvering through the crowds. We are Disney pros and usually have a system when we get to the parks to get in and out quickly. We make our rounds generally on 4 attractions then get out of there. Having to go from one place, wait, go to another, then back again really got to her. It was nice to do two attractions, break for a bit, then do the other two.
Even Haunted Mansion on a FP was ridiculous. ECVS now go through the main line. We used our DAS on that ride and were put in the FP line was just as big as stand by line. When you finally get near the door, 30 min later the two lines merge. It is VERY difficult to maneuver an ECV in that mob. She was sandwiched between the door and wall before a CM finally came to our rescue. This happened twice. They take us in the stretching room pinned against a wall and then take us out the back door to park the ECV outside then back in the backway to get on a doombuggy. It was so much easier to just park in back to begin with and go from there.
Our 4 hour or less days have turned into 6 or more hopping here to get FP, there to get a single DAS and so on. It really was a giant pita. I totally understand Disney changing the system but it just makes it too difficult with my mom. We will put our money into vacations she can enjoy more for now. Thanks again!
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Our 4 hour or less days have turned into 6 or more hopping here to get FP, there to get a single DAS and so on. It really was a giant pita.
Yeah the only solution I can see is to come during a very very slow time and that might be harder to find now than it used to be.
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Then perhaps an ECV would be more useful? Also, there's no need to leave the area if one is waiting for a return time. So no need to backtrack at all.
Are you kidding me with this? Not everyone who is in a wheelchair can just up and use an ecv instead. Good grief. And even if they could, that's still battery power they might not have if they have to backtrack.

How can you say there is no backtracking? People get a DAS because they cannot wait in lines, cannot handle heat, etc.. That means they are going to have to go SOMEWHERE other than the ride entrance or kiosk in order to wait. Sometimes there is a place very nearby, but not always. BTMRR? Nothing else is at the top of that big hill.
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Yeah the only solution I can see is to come during a very very slow time and that might be harder to find now than it used to be.
Yes I thought we were going during the slow time. It has always been nice and slow last 14 years during the week we went. Not only was the parks mobbed but every MNSSHP was SOLD OUT, including ours. That also was a first for us. And last. LOL Until they reconfigure DAS somehow we won't be back with my mom. No biggie though. After this past trip it kind of made us not want to go back anytime soon.
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