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Old 09-05-2013, 10:52 AM   #106
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If a child peed in a pool I was in, it just became my business. OP, I think you handled this appropriately.
Bingo. If you don't want others "parenting" or correcting your child, then do it yourself and save them the trouble.

A few years ago, we went to the Candlelight Processional. Seated directly in front of us was a mother with two young boys. Each boy had a freaking LIGHT SABER and they were doing what any little boy would do with one. Not only were they blocking the view of several people with their antics, they managed to whack some people around them. The mother KNEW what was going on. Heck, they whacked her too. It was just too much trouble for her to do anything about it. CP is NOT the place for horseplay.

So when they looked back at me with one of them managing to get his light saber too close for comfort, I gave them a stare down and said firmly, "Put......it.......down.......NOW." They got all bug-eyed, but did it. One did report my actions to his mother, but she shushed him. And then several people around me THANKED me for letting him know he was not acting acceptably.

Could I have spoken to his mom? Sure. But I had watched her and she had the backbone of a jellyfish. Those kids were the boss and they were a mess. I was not going to have the evening ruined because their mother couldn't bothered to make them mind. If she had, I wouldn't have had to speak to them.

Again, correct your children and others won't have to.
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Old 09-05-2013, 11:09 AM   #107
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I love how "it takes a village" when it comes to helping/teaching/being kind to other people's children, but when it comes to some slight discipline it's all "don't talk to my kid!"

Guess what, if your kid is doing something objectionable around me and MY kids, I will darn well tell him/her to stop without searching around for a parent/guardian. If the child can't handle being told to stop an objectionable behavior by someone other than a parent, then I fear for them in future life.
I believe parents need to parent. The parent screwed up here. But the op wasn't preventing a behaviour. She was just creatively venting because the parent had ignored the behaviour.
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Old 09-05-2013, 11:23 AM   #108
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I believe parents need to parent. The parent screwed up here. But the op wasn't preventing a behaviour. She was just creatively venting because the parent had ignored the behaviour.
How do you figure? She was preventing the kid from peeing in the hot tub. Are you really suggesting that she should have let the kid into the hot tub and then gone to find the father who had already laughed it off? Why should SHE be inconvenienced by a child's misbehavior?

I will say that I myself don't like the "it takes a village" attitude, but many people seem to subscribe to it which is why I mentioned it in my previous post. I agree that "the village" values may not agree with mine. However, respectful behavior and good manners should be part of EVERYONE'S values, so I don't see how that argument can be made in this case.

Pee in a pool isn't going to make you sick. In fact, urine is sterile (and probably cleaner than the pool it's being released into!) but the fact of the matter is that public urination is not a socially acceptable thing to do, and it should not be shrugged off by parents.
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Old 09-05-2013, 11:33 AM   #109
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For the record, no, I don't think it's OK for kids (or adults) to pee in pools.

But I also would never talk that way to someone else's child. If I were that bothered by it, I would have said something to the parent or grandparent, quietly, and without embarrassing the child.

I personally don't find it laudable to publicly humiliate a small child, but again, JMO.
I sincerely doubt the kid was upset because he was embarrassed, he was upset because he got caught probably. Though, even if he was embarrassed he should have been, and hopefully he learned a lesson there.

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Old 09-05-2013, 11:40 AM   #110
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Saying something to someone else's child to prevent injury or death is one thing, and can't be compared to correcting the behavior of someone else's child just to embarrass them.

Bottom line, it isn't up to me to correct someone else's child just because I don't like the behavior, nor is it up to someone else to correct my child's behavior.
If I hear your child say he pee'd in the pool and you condone it, I'd have no problem correcting that behavior. Like a pp said, if I'm in that pool it is most definitely my business.

OP, you handled it perfectly.
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Old 09-05-2013, 12:45 PM   #111
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Good for you for speaking up, OP. We shouldn't be held at the mercy of other parents' bad parenting. And good for the grandfather for apologizing, rather than becoming defensive, which many people probably would have.

I know people are on vacation and have an anything goes mentality, but people and their children should not stand in the way of other people's enjoyment with their own actions.
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Old 09-05-2013, 12:53 PM   #112
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If we are renting DVC points, can we visit other Disney resort pools so our kids can pee in them?
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I would have been put off by the little brat announcing it, but aside from that, I don't think it's a big deal. People swim in the ocean, and the ocean (at least here in New Jersey) is disgusting. At least there are chemicals in a pool!

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Old 09-05-2013, 02:15 PM   #115
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The OOL should be just that...with no P

Some young children may not be able to control their bladders. That being said, it is a parent's responsibility to ensure the safety of his children and those his children comes in contact with. Now some children, like my brother for example, can be a hassle when you scold them for doing something wrong, and that could put both the people around and the child in some form of danger while in the water. When parenting while on vacation, if you make your child angry and screaming, you're the bad guy. However if you ignore your child's behavior, you're the bad guy. Sadly it is almost always a lose-lose situation. Was it right for the father to brush it off, no. Do you have exact evidence that the child was not later scolded for such behavior, probably not. Was the issue eventually handled by the OP, yes. Was it effective in getting the "Don't pee in the pool" message across, probably not. I believe that a CM or lifeguard could have handled it a little better. Also, they put enough chemicals in the pool to balance out any types of body fluids that may be in the water.
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I've read at least twice on this thread people saying urine is sterile.

Where is this info coming from?
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I've read at least twice on this thread people saying urine is sterile.

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I sincerely doubt the kid was upset because he was embarrassed, he was upset because he got caught probably. Though, even if he was embarrassed he should have been, and hopefully he learned a lesson there.

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Granny Square had it exactly right - the OP stewed over this, and then took when the situation presented itself, he pointed to the kid, spoke loudly and did what he could to embarrass him.

It's so much easier to bully a five year old than to speak with the parents about the behavior...
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Granny Square had it exactly right - the OP stewed over this, and then took when the situation presented itself, he pointed to the kid, spoke loudly and did what he could to embarrass him.

It's so much easier to bully a five year old than to speak with the parents about the behavior...
I can't believe it took so long for someone to throw out the old bully label. No, this is not a case of bullying. Its a case of the OP calling out bad behavior by a child who is old enough to know better. It is a case of the OP ensuring that the hot tub she was in wasn't going to be used as a toilet by the kid who so proudly announced he had used the pool as one.
And like she said, if the parents are quick to condone such behavior, talking to them won't do a thing. Talking directly to the culprit is going to be much more effective. Kudo's to grandpa but if it were my kid or grandchild I would have made him apologize himself (which I'm sure you would see as bullying too).
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I can't believe it took so long for someone to throw out the old bully label. No, this is not a case of bullying. Its a case of the OP calling out bad behavior by a child who is old enough to know better. It is a case of the OP ensuring that the hot tub she was in wasn't going to be used as a toilet by the kid who so proudly announced he had used the pool as one.
And like she said, if the parents are quick to condone such behavior, talking to them won't do a thing. Talking directly to the culprit is going to be much more effective. Kudo's to grandpa but if it were my kid or grandchild I would have made him apologize himself.
The adult that condoned the behavior was not the adult that was with the child at the hot tub, so the OP could just as easily spoken to the adult, but he chose to be loud with the child instead. His choice obviously, but he asked what we would have done, and I told him. My choice is every bit as valid as his, and has the added bonus of not making a little boy cry.

That matters to me, YMMV.
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