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Old 08-28-2013, 09:55 AM   #76
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Why are you griping about the griping?

Keep in mind that often what seems like griping can just be concern or even just something to discuss. It's easy to misread what people actually mean on these forums.
lol I'm noooot griping! I'm making observation! If I was griping it would've went more like "stoopid people and their stoopid griping messing up my vacation and stuff I should use flash photography in front of them! that'll show em!"
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Old 08-28-2013, 09:58 AM   #77
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I just got back from WDW last week and more than every noticed people flashing photos especially on Pirates and it really distracted me I couldn't enjoy the ride because someone had a camera in front of my view I would look and not one picture turned out not a one! I have no problem people takng pictures of fireworks and outside stuff that is expected. I do feel we do live as a society a little too much behind the lens instead of enjoying the moment. On another note and maybe contracditory I was sitting behind a grandmom and her grandchild who had never seen It's a small world, she was taking pictures and crying and in awe, but the difference was she apologized to me and I said no worries at all she was trying to capture the moment and in a polite way.
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:06 AM   #78
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When people stop worrying what offends them and just be in a moment, the better off the world will be... I don't let any of the petty stuff bother me.
Half the stuff people complain about on these boards makes me literally laugh. Sad part is, and I don't mean to offend anyone, most the gripes on here are so petty and insignificant, I'm amazed they enjoy Disney at all.
Haha, I agree with you. People need to quit stressing about things they have no control over and just enjoy the process and enjoy the moment.

As for photos, if capturing MEMORIES is living behind the lens, I'm glad I live there!! Sure, a giant iPad is annoying if it is blocking my view, but instead of letting it ruin my day, I will just move. Pick your battles!!
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:09 AM   #79
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Haha, I agree with you. People need to quit stressing about things they have no control over and just enjoy the process and enjoy the moment.

As for photos, if capturing MEMORIES is living behind the lens, I'm glad I live there!! Sure, a giant iPad is annoying if it is blocking my view, but instead of letting it ruin my day, I will just move. Pick your battles!!
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:18 AM   #80
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lol I'm noooot griping! I'm making observation! If I was griping it would've went more like "stoopid people and their stoopid griping messing up my vacation and stuff I should use flash photography in front of them! that'll show em!"
No one has said anything like that on this thread. We've all just made observations about what other people should or should not do, just like you did.
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:22 AM   #81
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No one has said anything like that on this thread. We've all just made observations about what other people should or should not do, just like you did.
no one has said anything like what? All I did was make a joking example of how I would gripe in response to planogirl. It wasn't meant to be taken seriously.
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"You can just look at photos/videos on the web." That would require someone to take the actual photos or videos.

You don't want to take photos on vacation? Fantastic!
You do want to take photos on vacation? Awesome!

... I don't really care what you do. It's your vacation and you get to live it how you like. However, it shouldn't interfere with everyone else's experience. That being said, stop worrying about what everyone else is doing, and enjoy yourself at the happiest place on earth.


Personally, I love to take photos at Disney. I like to get different/creative angles of things. For me, it opens my mind to a different side of Disney. It's amazing all the little details they put into things, that most people past by running from ride to ride. Stopping to take a photo, is like stopping to smell the roses, for me. And I completely understand, not everyone is like that.

Here's my photo of people taking pics. I take comfort in knowing that everyone in this photo won't have a decent shot. I took this photo with an ultra wide angle lens at 16mm. Most cellphones are about (equivalent) 30mm.
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no one has said anything like what? All I did was make a joking example of how I would gripe in response to planogirl. It wasn't meant to be taken seriously.
Now someone is griping about what you said in answer to my comment about you griping about griping. See how that happens?

I do agree that people sometimes get overly upset about little things. I don't like a flash going off in my face every few seconds but I let the rest slide. Usually.
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Now someone is griping about what you said in answer to my comment about you griping about griping. See how that happens?

I do agree that people sometimes get overly upset about little things. I don't like a flash going off in my face every few seconds but I let the rest slide. Usually.
careful! someone may take that as a gripe!

That's really all I was trying to say. I'm not looking down on anyone. I want people to be happy and not sweat the small stuff. Personally I don't even notice the lcd's or what have you, I'm too busy enjoying watching my family enjoying themselves.
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Haha, I agree with you. People need to quit stressing about things they have no control over and just enjoy the process and enjoy the moment.

As for photos, if capturing MEMORIES is living behind the lens, I'm glad I live there!! Sure, a giant iPad is annoying if it is blocking my view, but instead of letting it ruin my day, I will just move. Pick your battles!!
Holy cow if those aren't the golden words I live by. Or try to at least. I used to let every little thing bother me. I used to be so stressed out about everything.

Now, I see stuff that to me is dumb or stupid or that I don't understand, and I'm like oh well... whatevs. LOL I move on.

My DH, still has to learn this little tidbit of life. He gets stressed about all kinds of stuff.
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"You can just look at photos/videos on the web." That would require someone to take the actual photos or videos.

You don't want to take photos on vacation? Fantastic!
You do want to take photos on vacation? Awesome!

... I don't really care what you do. It's your vacation and you get to live it how you like. However, it shouldn't interfere with everyone else's experience. That being said, stop worrying about what everyone else is doing, and enjoy yourself at the happiest place on earth.


Personally, I love to take photos at Disney. I like to get different/creative angles of things. For me, it opens my mind to a different side of Disney. It's amazing all the little details they put into things, that most people past by running from ride to ride. Stopping to take a photo, is like stopping to smell the roses, for me. And I completely understand, not everyone is like that.

Here's my photo of people taking pics. I take comfort in knowing that everyone in this photo won't have a decent shot. I took this photo with an ultra wide angle lens at 16mm. Most cellphones are about (equivalent) 30mm.
I love that pic!!! How did you get that? What kind of exposure did you use? How long was the shutter open?
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I love that pic!!! How did you get that? What kind of exposure did you use? How long was the shutter open?
Thanks! ISO 100, f/11, 17 seconds. And a 0.9 (3 stop) neutral density filter.
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Actually he's just looking at things from his own narrow frame of reference. People have different ways of "taking in the moment." I love photography and trying to capture the unique aspects of the places we visit is how I choose to enjoy them. I look at things differently when I'm thinking about taking photos, and that's particularly true at WDW because it's a place so many have photographed and which I've visited so many times. Seeing it through a lens actually keeps it fresh for me. That's how I "take in the moment."

And how do you know those people without cameras are really "taking in the moment" in the way you think they should? They might be thinking about work or a book they're reading or whether to make a dash for the bus stop as soon as the fireworks are over. Is that "taking in the moment"? I feel more "present" and my mind is less likely to wander when there's a camera in front of my face. YMMV.
As I mentioned above, I think this is really nitpicking and 'trying' to take something as wrong as possible. I don't see where the OP is attacking anyone for taking photographs or video. I see him suggesting that people take their noses out of their phone and enjoy the moment other than worrying about recording it. I don't see him demonizing photography, or even videoing. It reads to me as more of a 'consider it'...which is completely an acceptable thing to suggest, seeing as a majority of this generation is more obsessed with posting the moment to facebook than living it themselves...where as better videos of the exact moment are already all over the internet. It's a completely acceptable point to make.

Of course there are photographers/ people that enjoy photography that are taking pictures. But are you suggesting that the entire crowd holding cell phones in the air are photographers? I find this argument is no differently than saying 'Don't text people at the dinner table, enjoy the moment with your family...and someone making the argument "What if it's an important text". Yes, it could be, and in certain situations and to certain people, it's perfectly acceptable, it just seems to me to be someone going out of their way to make an argument rather than just trying to take in the opinion, and consider it or let it go.

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On our upcoming trip, it is a once in a lifetime thing. It is also 'once in a lifetime' that my parents, my family & my sister's family will all be together for a full week. I am the photographer in our family. When I will be snapping pics, it will be to preserve our memories of a trip as a family. My parents are aging and not in great health, and I want to capture as many shots of them with their grandkids as I can, so 15-20 years from now when they are either suffering from alzheimers or gone, my girls will see the love on their faces. I have very few pics of my grandparents, and even fewer of them with me. My favorite ones of my maternal Grandma are taken at WDW, and the joy is evident on all of our faces. So, while I want to soak in the moments while they are happening, I am also determined to preserve the moments for my kids & my parents.

I will put the camera away for stretches so I can be fully present. I certainly am not going to be recording video of fireworks, but I may bust it out to capture the wonder on my 18month old niece's face during wishes (sans flash).

People have reasoning for what they are doing. Who are we to judge? Live and let live.
My wife is a photographer as well, and I completely understand and agree with what you're saying. I just don't see how it's relevant to the conversation.

The OP isn't saying photographers should stop taking pictures. He's clearly talking about the 10,000 cell phone videos that aren't going to be viewed again after they're taken. It would be rather silly to suggest photographers shouldn't take pictures of such a sight. I'm a libertarian, I know all about live and let live, and I don't see where anyone is suggesting photography or cell phone videos should be banned. He's offering a suggestion to consider, and it seems a lot of people are taking something personal that doesn't read that way.

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Oh, I understood the point, but I do not necessarily agree.

I think that the OP has a POV, and that it is valid for him. I also think that those if us who do feel that it is no one's business how others choose to enjoy their moment also have a point. The OP used his moment to take a picture of others who he deemed were not "in the moment". He spent his moment judging others who were not mirroring his idea of how to be in the moment. So my question is What exactly was the moment? Was it watching a show? Was it watching others watch a show? Was it taking photos of the show? or Was it taking pics of others taking pics? because clearly the OP was not directing all of his attention to the show.
Once again, I don't see why my post was even quoted in this, as it doesn't seem very relevant to what I said. I said he has a point, take it in and let it go, as a point...not a law. Other believe otherwise, and I specifically said they have a point as well. He took a picture to make a point, and also as I said...the last portion of your post is trolling him for making a point.
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Some people just get enjoyment out of taking pictures of everything. If it doesn't bother them to see things through the screen, why should it bother anyone else? I guess that's the part of this whole thing I just don't get. Unless of course, it involves flash photography on a dark ride or the like. That's just rude.

Luckily, I get the best of both worlds. My DH loves photographing everything, so while I get to live in the moment and not have my nose in a screen, I also get the photos to remember everything by from DH. He does not mind seeing shows through a screen, because he's always striving to get a better shot than before or trying out new techniques, etc. On our anniversary trip to DL, he photographed an entire viewing of World of Color even though we had just been there a few months prior and he had taken photos then. He gets enjoyment from that. We saw it again the next night and I had to convince him to keep the camera away and just watch the show. He still enjoyed it, but I know he was just itching to whip his camera out!
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Some people just get enjoyment out of taking pictures of everything. If it doesn't bother them to see things through the screen, why should it bother anyone else? I guess that's the part of this whole thing I just don't get. Unless of course, it involves flash photography on a dark ride or the like. That's just rude.

Luckily, I get the best of both worlds. My DH loves photographing everything, so while I get to live in the moment and not have my nose in a screen, I also get the photos to remember everything by from DH. He does not mind seeing shows through a screen, because he's always striving to get a better shot than before or trying out new techniques, etc. On our anniversary trip to DL, he photographed an entire viewing of World of Color even though we had just been there a few months prior and he had taken photos then. He gets enjoyment from that. We saw it again the next night and I had to convince him to keep the camera away and just watch the show. He still enjoyed it, but I know he was just itching to whip his camera out!
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