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Old 07-10-2013, 12:47 PM   #31
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But that's a pretty big assumption, isn't it? That the new expansions would require the closure of SOA? From what I've read, the Pixar place expansion would move into part of the current backlot area.

As for a Star Wars land- I wouldn't get too hooked on the idea that it would be located adjacent to the current Star Tours. Taking over SOA would also mean getting rid of the Muppets 3D, Honey I Shrunk the Kids (no great loss), Mama Melrose, and Pizza Planet. I think it's just as likely that they would take over the LMA/Catastrophe Canyon area instead.

But this is all deriving from one or 2 vague sentences rumoured by a couple of CMs? I'm not going to panic just yet.
And I agree that it's too early to panic. I'm just filling in the blanks as to where the Osborne Light elimination rumor stems from for those who may not be following the DHS expansion rumors.

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This would be a shame. I saw them for the first time last year, and enjoyed them so much that we actually discussed checking them out annually.

The Disney Springs idea is *not* horrible. They would certainly drive traffic to Disney's shopping destination. I'm not sure why Disney wouldn't like this idea.
Honestly, I don't think it will move there because there is no admission fee to enter Disney Springs. At least people have to pay to enter the park to view them at DHS. I still hope they find an alternative place to put them in the coming years (perhaps a temporary Holiday themed location, behind RnRC?)
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Old 07-10-2013, 01:00 PM   #32
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Could they move The Osbourne Lights to Sunset Blvd? Because you definitely want to get people OFF of Hollywood Blvd and into the theme park. That was the first and foremost reason that the Lights are all the way back there in the first place.
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Old 07-10-2013, 01:47 PM   #33
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Does anyone know the dates yet for this year. Will be arriving Jan. 8, 2014 and hoping they will still be on.

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The dates for this year haven't been announced yet, from what I have seen, however they did end on January 6, 2013 for the last holiday season.
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And I agree that it's too early to panic. I'm just filling in the blanks as to where the Osborne Light elimination rumor stems from for those who may not be following the DHS expansion rumors.



Honestly, I don't think it will move there because there is no admission fee to enter Disney Springs. At least people have to pay to enter the park to view them at DHS. I still hope they find an alternative place to put them in the coming years (perhaps a temporary Holiday themed location, behind RnRC?)
They could work things out with the retailers probably. Driving traffic to the area would be a good thing for them - restaurants would be filled, retailers would sell merchandise.
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Old 07-10-2013, 03:50 PM   #35
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Honestly, I don't think it will move there because there is no admission fee to enter Disney Springs. At least people have to pay to enter the park to view them at DHS. I still hope they find an alternative place to put them in the coming years (perhaps a temporary Holiday themed location, behind RnRC?)
Yes God forbid Disney be labeled as a "nice guy" and not charge people to see something that they probably can never afford to pay to see.
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They could work things out with the retailers probably. Driving traffic to the area would be a good thing for them - restaurants would be filled, retailers would sell merchandise.
This is why I considered it viable.

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Yes God forbid Disney be labeled as a "nice guy" and not charge people to see something that they probably can never afford to pay to see.
Let's be reasonable. Most people who are going to Disney Springs already have tickets to the parks.
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Old 07-10-2013, 05:23 PM   #37
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This is why I considered it viable.
Let's be reasonable. Most people who are going to Disney Springs already have tickets to the parks.
And the un-most? Not all people can afford Disney
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Old 07-10-2013, 06:45 PM   #38
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Another plus to moving these to Disney Springs would be the SSR DVC. For once people would be scrambling to get into that resort during that time of year. Would might even increase the value of that resort.

I actually believe that it is a win, win, win for everyone and it would be beautiful.
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Does anyone know the dates yet for this year. Will be arriving Jan. 8, 2014 and hoping they will still be on.

Thanks!
Jan 6th is the twelfth day of Christmas so not likely.
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Just based on the rumor--

IF 2013 is the last year that you may possibly view the Osbourne lights, would we get a notice from Disney that it was not returning for 2014 so book your trip now if you would like to see them sort of update?

For those that are in the know -
When Disney announced that the Lights of Wonder no longer will be displayed was it after or before the last time shown?
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Which is correct? Osborne or Osbourne (Wikipedia says the 1st)
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In a somewhat recent Disney Dish podcast with Jim Hill, Jim talked about how incredibly popular this attraction is even though it is only up for 2 months out of the year. This was discussed in relation to how the Streets of America space could be put to better use for DHS. According to Jim Hill, the lights are a huge draw, which is why they haven't re-purposed that space for something else. If what Jim says is true, it would be very surprising that Disney would impact the Streets of America with their expansion plans.
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Old 07-11-2013, 11:30 AM   #43
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Osborne lights will be moved to Disney Springs!!
don't be so quick to rule this out
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:41 PM   #44
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And the un-most? Not all people can afford Disney
I think you are missing my intent. IMHO, most visitors to Disney Springs are going to be people who are already on property and likely already have tickets to the parks themselves. The "unmost" as it were would not be a significant enough number to seek to avoid placing the display at Disney Springs. The net benefit being that people would continue going to DHS (especially with the expansion) and they'd have greater reason to go shopping at Disney Springs. Streets of America presently is great because it requires the DHS ticket, but when people are there, they generally aren't also shopping as it's basically all facade all the time.

My expectation is that so long as there is someplace at DHS for the lights to go up, they will remain there. I simply think that if in the future there were not a place for the lights at DHS, then Disney Springs would be a great second choice.

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In a somewhat recent Disney Dish podcast with Jim Hill, Jim talked about how incredibly popular this attraction is even though it is only up for 2 months out of the year. This was discussed in relation to how the Streets of America space could be put to better use for DHS. According to Jim Hill, the lights are a huge draw, which is why they haven't re-purposed that space for something else. If what Jim says is true, it would be very surprising that Disney would impact the Streets of America with their expansion plans.
I don't disagree with this sentiment at all, it was packed last year each day when I visited, and it is enough of a draw to get me to return. This said, I would expect that if it interfered with a larger plan to improve the park (which needs it), they would not hesitate to move or eliminate the display.

Since they own the display and the rights to it, I would think moving it would make more sense than eliminating it.
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In a somewhat recent Disney Dish podcast with Jim Hill, Jim talked about how incredibly popular this attraction is even though it is only up for 2 months out of the year. This was discussed in relation to how the Streets of America space could be put to better use for DHS. According to Jim Hill, the lights are a huge draw, which is why they haven't re-purposed that space for something else. If what Jim says is true, it would be very surprising that Disney would impact the Streets of America with their expansion plans.
Assuming validity in the rumor. . .I don't listen to podcasts and don't know if anyone's quantified the popularity of the show, but it would have to be extremely large for a 2 month show -- that's only active a fraction of the night -- to outweigh the benefits of upgrades that could provide increased attendance for 12 months out of the year and throughout the entire day/night.

We greatly enjoyed the show when we saw it for the first (only) time in 2011, but other than the nights on that trip, we had no reason for visiting the Streets of America versus the rest of the park. If they have an opportunity to improve the use of that space, I would hope that they seize it, and I would also hope that they could find a new destination for the lights if possible.
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