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Old 07-04-2013, 02:16 PM   #1
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Do you own Wyndham timeshare points?

I was curious how many points on average does it take to stay a week at Bonnet Creek?

I looked up some points for sale on Ebay and it was something like $4,000 for 150,000 points. I was curious how long you could stay with 150,000 points and how much are the maintenance fees on their points?

Is there a FAQ somewhere that tells all those details about owning points?
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Old 07-04-2013, 03:14 PM   #2
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There is no one place that tells all. You are going to have to piece it together on your own.

The best place for that info is the TUG Wyndham discussion group: http://www.tugbbs.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=47

At the top of that page, you will see a section of "Wyndham Information and Advice Articles." The advice articles are good, but were written 3 years ago. I don't know if they have been updated, but if not there will be a lot of outdated information...particularly when they are talking about RCI exchanges using Wyndham. That aspect of Wyndham has completely changed in the last two years.

Also in that area, you will see lots of links to other Wyndham info, including Members Directories.

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Before you start worrying about how much 150,000 points will buy, you really need to learn how the system works generally. Same with maintenance fees.

Wyndham is a very good timeshare system with about 90 quality resorts nationwide. Their sales operation, however, is among the sleaziest in the industry. Stay away from their salesmen.

On eBay pricing, two comments. The first is that buying a timeshare on eBay is an art form in itself. You really have to learn how eBay auctions work, set a limit you will pay for a particular contract, and walk away when it gets too pricey.

Secondly, that $4,000 price seems like someone got carried away with the excitement of the auction. I paid less than $2,000 total (including closing and transfer fees) for 500,000 points 2 years ago. Simultaneously to buying that contract I was going to bid on an identical contract, but it went over my limit...and went to >$4,000.

Also, you can sometimes get Wyndham contracts for $1 with free closing, but you need to look at the MFs to be sure that is really a good deal.
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Old 07-04-2013, 06:45 PM   #3
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Are all the points charged the same maintenance fee per point across the board?

If you don't mind me asking how much is the monthly or annual maintenance fees for 500,000 points?

And thanks for the info and link.
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Old 07-04-2013, 07:29 PM   #4
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For anybody else who has any helpful advice or words of wisdom for me. I am looking into buying some Wyndham points and know nothing about it so far.

And tips and tricks?

Is there a chart someplace that shows you how many points it takes to stay certain amounts of time in certain resorts?

Do you need to buy points from a specific home resort or does it matter? Can you use the points at any resort?
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Old 07-04-2013, 07:56 PM   #5
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Two years ago when I was on vacation with a friend who owns a timeshare we spent a week at Star Island. I was stupid enough to go on a timeshare presentation and they pushed so hard - even though I said "No" and my credit wasn't good, they pushed me into a Discover Program. I ended up with a package with 154,000 points. When I got home I wanted to cancel, but it was too late. They lied so much telling me that I could get 2 weeks out of those points during the summer - the only time I could go on vacation. I ended up going to Wyndham Governor's Green which cost 154,000 points for one week in a 2-bedroom in July.

I still have the Club Wyndham Discovery book, and a 2-bedroom at Bonnet Creek in Prime season costs 224,000 points.
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Old 07-04-2013, 08:09 PM   #6
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Points are points

I am a Wyndham owner and I buy on ebay. We are staying at Bonnet Creek in a 3 bedroom next week. It was 308,000 for the week. Points are based on time of year, summer is high, n how many bedrooms you need. My maintenance is around 1400 a year. It also depends on the resort, some are a little higher and if they have special assessments due to weather damage, etc. could run higher. Remember points are points regardless of where you own. Look for the lowest maintenance fee you can always exchange into Bonnet Creek or anywhere you want. I own in Hawaii it was a great deal. We love the resort, but every other year we go some where else. We usually can get 3 weeks out of our 308,000 points by traveling off season, this year we are taking our daughter and her family to DW during high season, so only 1 trip
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Old 07-04-2013, 08:15 PM   #7
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My Mom owns some Wyndham points. I don't know much about it so I can't help you much. Just wanted to tell you that in March of 2010 we stayed at Bonnet Creek for four nights in a one bedroom deluxe. It was 75,000 points. She looked up something for my sister, something like a week in June was 225,00 or 250,000. Not that you asked about Myrtle Beach, but she also looked for a week there in June and it was also around 250,000.
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Old 07-04-2013, 08:32 PM   #8
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I would use our points for Orlando/Kissimmee. Daytona Beach, Tennessee and Las Vegas. Maybe one day even Hawaii or St Thomas.

How far in advance do you need to make your reservations to be able to get availability? I am sure it depends on what time of year you go.

I am looking at contracts for resale.
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Old 07-04-2013, 08:35 PM   #9
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I found a link to the directory in a message forum but under Daytona Beach it doesn't even have a points chart. How do you go about finding out how many points each stay needs? Is there a member website once you own that you can access to see point requirements?

I kind of wanted to know estimates before buying a contract.

I want to research and investigate as much as I can before we make a commitment to a timeshare contract.
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Old 07-04-2013, 08:35 PM   #10
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I am a Wyndham Vacation Points owner and love the system. Before you decide to buy, take 6 months to learn whether the system will work for you.

As most timeshares work the best is if you plan in advance. If you are looking at Bonnet Creek during holidays - like Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years or Spring Break or Easter, then I would recommend to buy at Bonnet Creek or Club Wyndham Access Points. This would give you home priority before it opens up to all owners at 10 months before desired check in dates. Yes, you can get Bonnet Creek at 10 months. Larger size units are tougher to get 4 bedrooms. I can see three bedrooms but 4 bedrooms are tough to get.

Yes, Wyndham Club Points are points at the 10 month window. Watch your maintenance fees on points. Read TUG boards - about the Wyndham system. Yes, you can get them for $1 on ebay or other owners giving them away for free. Usually these are high $ per points. Take the yearly maintenance fees and divide by the number of points per thousand. For example, a previous poster said they pay about $1,400 for 308,000 points. The point cost is $4.54 per thousand. Take $1,400 and divide by 308,000. That is a good point cost.

You will also need to take into account your initial investment. The lower the maintenance fees advertised on ebay then they tend to go higher in cost in bid.

Just remember, it is easy to buy...and the maintenance are yearly (or monthly if you choose to pay that way).

To answer your question - for prime weeks - it takes 224,000 Wyndham points for a 2 bedroom deluxe unit. Current Wyndham Bonnet Creek maintenance fees are $5.12 per thousand. For you to stay in that unit - it will cost you $1,146.88 in maintenance fees.

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We would never travel during holidays or summer to Orlando. Maybe to some place else like Tennessee or Las Vegas but I can't deal with peak Disney crowds.

If I were to buy a contract some time soon and it still had 2013 points left on it what would my options be for those points? Use them or lose them? Or is there another option to keep from losing them?
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We would never travel during holidays or summer to Orlando. Maybe to some place else like Tennessee or Las Vegas but I can't deal with peak Disney crowds.

If I were to buy a contract some time soon and it still had 2013 points left on it what would my options be for those points? Use them or lose them? Or is there another option to keep from losing them?
You can save them to RCI and travel to a RCI exchange resort anytime in the following 2 years. I have done this many times to go to non Wyndham resorts. Bank in the amount that would give you a 1 BR because RCI always upgrades reservations. You may need to do it several times depending on how many points you have to use.
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I was curious how many points on average does it take to stay a week at Bonnet Creek?

I looked up some points for sale on Ebay and it was something like $4,000 for 150,000 points. I was curious how long you could stay with 150,000 points and how much are the maintenance fees on their points?

Is there a FAQ somewhere that tells all those details about owning points?
Here is the points chart. http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/wynd...tory11-12/#/82

One thing you should know, is that I have considered buying points but I have found it is cheaper to rent even if you can get the points for free. Plus you are not committing to a lifetime of fees.
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One thing you should know, is that I have considered buying points but I have found it is cheaper to rent even if you can get the points for free. Plus you are not committing to a lifetime of fees.
I've found this too... the only upside I see of owning is being in control of my own reservation...

Am I missing anything?
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I want to buy a contract with about 230-250,000 points on it because that would get me 3 different weeks at different places (not during high season) and the maintenance fees would only be about $1000 a year. That works out to $333 per week for 3 weeks at my choice (if there is availability) at any Wyndham location.

I looked up completed sales on Ebay and all the contracts under 300,000 points seem to be going for less than $500.

You may be able to rent points for less than $50 a day (which is about what you pay by owning) but I think I would have more control and availability if I had control over my own points.

I looked into DVC for several months. I researched it and researched it and almost bought on two different occasions but something kept me from doing it. I decided I might not want to be tied down to 40 years of Disney vacations. That there are a lot of different locations I would like to see.

And buying Wyndham points is an easy way to do that. They have about 50 (?) resorts in the US to choose from and they all seem to be nice locations. I have been looking at the pictures and none of them seem to be in bad shape.

The maintenance fees for Wyndham points works out to be a little cheaper than DVC for what you get (Points wise) and the initial investment in buying your points is dirt cheap. So I haven't found any down sides yet.

I am mainly searching for info and details on buying and owning. But the actual timeshare boards they don't really want you to ask too many questions. They think you need to find your own info like they had to back when they decided to buy.
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