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Old 07-03-2013, 08:03 AM   #16
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My favorite is the drive through coffee shops! It takes all of what, 15 seconds to pour my cup of coffee and hand it out the window to me? And I'm supposed to tip you for that? There are some workers who will actually wait, holding my change, thinking I'm just going to drive away. I don't think so!

To me, the whole tipping in restaurants thing is because waiters/waitresses don't even make minimum wage. They count on tips to bring their earnings to that level. And they're taking care of me, spending some time, often going above and beyond what is minimally necessary. Because someone, who is making at least minimum wage, hands me a to-go bag they picked up off a counter doesn't warrant a tip. That's simply called DOING THEIR JOB!

I think as a work at home mom, I'm going to leave a tip jar on my dashboard and expect the kids to tip me for driving them to school, to practice, to scouts, to the mall. Then I'm going to leave another one in the kitchen for the countless meals and snacks I prepare. Another on their bureau if they expect clean clothes. Another by the phone for each time I set up a play date or doctor's appointment. Another in each room for after I clean it. Boy, I'll be heading back to Disney in no time just on tips!!!!!
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Old 07-03-2013, 08:21 AM   #17
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OP, I totally agree with you. I get so frustrated because I want to do the right thing but tipping rules are so confusing that I seldom know what the right thing is. And the rules keep changing. And I hate to have to do math!
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Old 07-03-2013, 08:28 AM   #18
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I tip people in jobs where we instinctively know that they are being paid a lower hourly wage and depend on tips (waitstaff or valets, for example). The amount I tip depends on service. That's easy.

Past that, I tip for excellent service, regardless of what that service is. I've tipped movers who were quick, efficient and friendly and who went above and beyond (helping put furniture together in the new apartment and vacuuming my stairs because they'd gotten dirt on them); I've tipped housekeeping in hotels who go the extra mile and reset the room so that it totally looks as though I haven't even been in it. I've tipped at the frozen yogurt place (we have one near me that is the same as JennaDeeDooDah has described) because the kids there are really nice and friendly and they keep the place spotless, and I've seen them show a GREAT deal of patience with difficult and rowdy customers.

I do often toss change in the tip jar if I pay with cash, but that's mostly so that I don't have to carry change around in my pockets. Right now, in my life, I'm lucky enough not to have to count every single dime to survive, so I'm pretty apt to toss something in the tip jar if I can. However, I specifically will NOT tip if I've gotten bad service. Even at places like the ice cream shop. If someone filled my order without once looking at me or saying thank you, and spent the entire transaction talking to someone else or checking their phone, those people aren't getting anything extra.

All of that to say ... I don't really know what the "rules" are or who you're supposed to or not supposed to tip. I tip people who do a good job. I don't tip people who don't. Simple.

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Old 07-03-2013, 08:39 AM   #19
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If I offend you well my apologizes.

I am so baffled at all the who to tip and what to tip that my head may explode.

So I tip you if you work for the company doing the job but I don't tip if you own the company.

I don't tip repairmen but tip movers.

I tip waitstaff but not the kid who brings out my food at fast food.

I tip the barber at the chain hair cut place but not the one who owns the shop

I don't tip the mail man or garbage man

Enough already how about this we let businesses pay there employees and let the employees decide if that's enough for them to work. Even better is its a state to state thing on how people are paid.


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Totally agree!!!

Just curious what everyone thinks of this.

Right now, my Mom is on a six day trip to Canada with a tour group. There is a travel guide from the agency and a bus driver. The trip was quite expensive, but worth it to my Mom who loves to travel and see new things, and since my Dad died, does not want to travel alone.

She gave me a copy of her itinerary, so I could follow along on what she is doing each day. On the bottom it says. "tips to your driver and tour escort are not included. These tips should be extended on an individual basis and NOT as a group. A suggested amount is 4.00 each day for both the bus driver and guide"

So that is an extra 48.00 since it is a six day trip and two people to tip.

I thought that was a lot and a little tacky to put on the schedule.

Just curious of what others thought.
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Old 07-03-2013, 08:42 AM   #20
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I don't tip on to-go orders. The other day someone asked me if I needed change, hmmm yeah, I'm not tipping you just for getting my order right.
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Old 07-03-2013, 08:44 AM   #21
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I usually tip when someones actions require more than the basic amount of effort required and it's something that has a benefit to me.

When I go in a restaurant and they hand me a meal in a bag and I have to go get my salt and pepper, utensils, condiments and bus my table myself, in most cases there is no tip involved.

If I go into a restaurant and there is a bag with my meal in it and a hostess or waitress had to get my ketchup, salad dressing, utensils, napkins, check to make sure everything is correct and then give me my completed order, then I am tipping.

If I go to a place where you order at a counter and they bring the food to you and bus your table, I'm leaving a tip.

When the Time Warner Cable guy came out 8 years ago and ran wires across my garage ceiling without stapling them up, left a mess in every area he worked in, he got no tip.

4 Years ago when the Direct TV guy came and he spent xtra time making it look like a professional job, hiding wires, stapling them up out of the way, cleaning up after himself, he got a tip. This may or not be a time most people would have tipped, but this guy exceeded my expectations so he got a tip from me.

I tip the woman who cuts my hair because I know by societies standards this is assumed to be a tipped position.

I don't tip the mailman or garbageman. These are not minimum wage workers and they perform their basic duties, nothing personal about it, never necessary to really perform 'extra' duties. They put my mail in the box, or they don't. They empty my trash can or they don't.

I don't tip the police or fireman I see, or my kids teachers.

I think most people really DO have an idea of who is or is not typically to be tipped, but, the people that don't like to tip always like to play the "I'm confused" card, or the "I don't believe in tipping card."
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Old 07-03-2013, 08:46 AM   #22
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Totally agree!!!

Just curious what everyone thinks of this.

Right now, my Mom is on a six day trip to Canada with a tour group. There is a travel guide from the agency and a bus driver. The trip was quite expensive, but worth it to my Mom who loves to travel and see new things, and since my Dad died, does not want to travel alone.

She gave me a copy of her itinerary, so I could follow along on what she is doing each day. On the bottom it says. "tips to your driver and tour escort are not included. These tips should be extended on an individual basis and NOT as a group. A suggested amount is 4.00 each day for both the bus driver and guide"

So that is an extra 48.00 since it is a six day trip and two people to tip.

I thought that was a lot and a little tacky to put on the schedule.

Just curious of what others thought.
I travel a lot and don't think that is odd or tacky.

Tips are customary for drivers and "travel hosts/guides" and I like knowing a "suggested amount"...I can then decide, based on performance, attitude, being friendly, helpful or not, on how much I decrease or increase the tip (or leave the suggested amount).

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Old 07-03-2013, 08:47 AM   #23
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Ugh, I agree. Call me cheap if you will, but I hate tipping anyone other than waitstaff. This really takes the cake, though: I bought my boyfriend his first tattoo as an anniversary present a couple of weeks ago. We really know nothing about tattoos and found out later from my sister that we were "supposed to" tip the artist 20%. I'm sorry, but when you're paying for a service that costs $150 per hour for a total of about $350, being expected to tip is ridiculous. I know the artist does not receive all of that $150/hour after cost of supplies and etc, but seriously...
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Old 07-03-2013, 08:59 AM   #24
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Totally agree!!!

"tips to your driver and tour escort are not included. These tips should be extended on an individual basis and NOT as a group. A suggested amount is 4.00 each day for both the bus driver and guide"

So that is an extra 48.00 since it is a six day trip and two people to tip.

I thought that was a lot and a little tacky to put on the schedule.

Just curious of what others thought.
Although I haven't been on a bunch of tours but the few that I've gone with outside the US all have similar tipping guidelines.

My retired aunt and her friends go to the casinos often on those one day bus trips and there is also a guideline to tip the bus driver and guide.
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Old 07-03-2013, 09:01 AM   #25
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Technically, it is against company policy for them to accept tips. I tried to tip one at the Sonic here, and he said thank you, but said he was not allowed to accept tips.
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I have always heard tip the sonic car hops and try to do so but, I don't always have cash. I am a mostly debit card/disney visa kind of girl.
See I have seen it both ways at the same Sonic!! I try to tip one car hop and they say no thank you. The next time, I pay in cash and they ask if I need my change?? The one we go to doesn't have a drive thru.


OP, I agree, it has gotten out of hand. Every where you go there is a tip jar. One restaurant I have gone to, has a tip jar by the register that is labeled "tip the cooks".

Ds had dgd's birthday party at the local place with the jumping things and slides and such--lots of fun. With parties they have a "party hostess" that sort of just lets you know when its time to go in the party room, cuts the cake and hands out plates and cups of Coke. She did a nice job. As we were getting packed up, I noticed a tip jar on the counter. (I would have assumed she was paid enough not to be a "tipped" position). I grabbed a twenty from ds really quick and gave it to her. I personally, think with the amount that is paid for these parties, a percentage should go to the hostess rather than expecting someone to tip.
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I travel a lot and don't think that is odd or tacky.

Tips are customary for drivers and "travel hosts/guides" and I like knowing a "suggested amount"...I can then decide, based on performance, attitude, being friendly, helpful or not, on how much I decrease or increase the tip (or leave the suggested amount).

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Although I haven't been on a bunch of tours but the few that I've gone with outside the US all have similar tipping guidelines.

My retired aunt and her friends go to the casinos often on those one day bus trips and there is also a guideline to tip the bus driver and guide.
Thanks for the info!

I just didn't realize this! On this trip my Mom went to Canada, but she did two last year that were in the US and it was the same tipping guideline.

A few years ago, we went on a float trip down the Snake River in the Grand Teton National Park. I think it cost around 250.00 for the almost two hour ride. There was no mention of tipping in their brochure or anything, but we had such a great time, when we got off, we gave our guide a big tip. I guess, I was just surprised to see the explanation/directions at the bottom of my Moms sheet about the tipping.
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Old 07-03-2013, 09:18 AM   #28
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Tipping is out of control!

In WA State, the minimum wage is almost $10 and hour with a raise almost yearly. Waitstaff receive the $10 an hour no exceptions.

A few weeks back we were in BJ's Restaurant and they had a suggested tip amount on the bill. The problem I had with it is, they used the full amount including tax, unless they are paying the Dept of Revenue a tip, I feel that is wrong. (Our restaurant tax rate is almost 10%)
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Ds had dgd's birthday party at the local place with the jumping things and slides and such--lots of fun. With parties they have a "party hostess" that sort of just lets you know when its time to go in the party room, cuts the cake and hands out plates and cups of Coke. She did a nice job. As we were getting packed up, I noticed a tip jar on the counter. (I would have assumed she was paid enough not to be a "tipped" position). I grabbed a twenty from ds really quick and gave it to her. I personally, think with the amount that is paid for these parties, a percentage should go to the hostess rather than expecting someone to tip.
I've had dozens of parties out, so I know that the hostess is tipped.

I also know that tour guides are also tipped, and although I never knew tattoo artists were tipped (since I never had a tattoo), it does make sense. I've have my hair highlighted and cut, and have spent $250 or so, and I tipped 18%. A tattoo would take the same amount of time (with no down time for the tattoo artist), and be even more of a personal service (since it lasts a lifetime). As for the cost, one wouldn't spend a few hundred dollars on a meal at a restaurant, and not tip, because of the cost.
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Old 07-03-2013, 09:26 AM   #30
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Tipping is an odd ritual.

My rough guideline is I tip an employee in a minimum (or sub-minimum in some states) service sector job.

I do not tip repairmen, movers, garbage men or the mailman. I may be wrong, but I am kind of guessing they all make more than I do in salary, and I have a good job, and I would never tip anyone who makes more than I do. I just looked and my mailman has been on the job 30 years, so is making a base pay of $54,000. According to their union contract, our Garbage workers start at $63,000 a year. Sorry, with those salaries, they don't need tips.
I have a close relative who is a mailman and they are not supposed to take tips anyway. And yeah, when someone is making a heck of a lot more than me working full time like me at a job that isn't traditionally a tipped position anyway (mail carrier/garbage man, etc.) then I just don't feel the need to tip. Some would argue that they have to deal with the weather but isn't that why they have higher than average wages anyway?
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