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Old 06-03-2013, 05:43 PM   #76
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This is the reason I will NEVER book a Deck 2 room again on the Magic or the Wonder. Ever since they move the Edge into the old conference rooms, the number of kids running in the halls is completely out of hand.
All of our cruises have been on the Magic & Wonder. Always on deck 2. In fact, one of them we had rooms immediately off the elevator lobby where Edge is located.

We've never noticed that the numbers of kids in the halls were out of hand.

In fact, we were told (by kids as well as CMs) that the children in Edge are reminded that it is a rooms only deck, and unless their room was located on deck 2 they were not to go down the halls. When they left Edge, they immediately used the stairs or elevators to go elsewhere.

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Old 06-03-2013, 06:22 PM   #77
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At the risk of coming across as being rude I am going to ask the question anyway.

From some of the comments in this thread, it seems like people expect the hallways to be practically silent 24 hours a day.

I understand expecting people to adhere to it during the requested quiet hours of 10pm to 8am but it sounds like people here are requesting that you are quiet and practically make no noise all day long.

I'll admit it, during the day I let my kids run down the hall. They weren't noisy, they weren't screaming, they weren't talking loudly, they weren't banging on the walls or doors, but yes they would run down the hall. There aren't a lot of places to really run around the ship. Yes there is deck 4, but it was frequently closed due to high winds and I'd rather them not run in front of runners. They are just burning off a little extra energy in an area where there are less likely to be a lot of people. They weren't allowed to run around corners just on the straight aways and were only allowed to get a few doors ahead of us at a time.

Would I let them do it early in the morning or in the evening? No. This was a 10am to 6pm thing. And you know what, I would probably do it again.
I'm sorry, but during the day, I'd rather your kids yell down the hall than run down the hall. You're right that the hallways aren't under quiet hours during the day. But running indoors down hallways filled with doorways where anyone could come out at any time is just dangerous for both your kids and the people coming out of their rooms.
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Old 06-03-2013, 06:38 PM   #78
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All of our cruises have been on the Magic & Wonder. Always on deck 2. In fact, one of them we had rooms immediately off the elevator lobby where Edge is located.

We've never noticed that the numbers of kids in the halls were out of hand.

In fact, we were told (by kids as well as CMs) that the children in Edge are reminded that it is a rooms only deck, and unless their room was located on deck 2 they were not to go down the halls. When they left Edge, they immediately used the stairs or elevators to go elsewhere.

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Then it must have just been our Christmas 2010 cruise that was out of control. People in at least 3 other cabins were MOVED because of the constant noise and commotion. Repeated calls to Guest Services and Security made absolutely no difference. Kids were running up and down our halls until 01:00 - 02:00 every single night. I can honestly say is was the worst Disney cruise I have ever been on (cruises 9 and 10 coming up in October) and because of this one experience I have no interest in doing another Deck 2 cruise aboard the Wonder or Magic, ever again.
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I'm sorry, but during the day, I'd rather your kids yell down the hall than run down the hall. You're right that the hallways aren't under quiet hours during the day. But running indoors down hallways filled with doorways where anyone could come out at any time is just dangerous for both your kids and the people coming out of their rooms.
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Old 06-03-2013, 06:47 PM   #81
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Basically what I get every time I hear this is that "I'm on vacation from parenting and they're your problem and I don't want to be a parent cause.......I'm on vacation.....etc. etc. etc.

Well, I'm on vacation, too, and I love Disney cruising with or without our kids, but I certainly don't expect children to be "allowed" bad behavior and ill-manners just because they are on "vacation". We have had the running up and down and slamming doors for a straight hour on our last cruise and I finally opened our door and told them to knock it off or I was calling security -- and they did. Never did see or hear a parent get involved. We've also come across very young (too young to be roaming decks on their own) children going up to the soda station at night, alone, unsupervised and riding the elevator. The two times this happened, NONE of them were older than eight! Midnight, and your kids are roaming the ship alone! Very troubling!

On our Panama Canal trip in 2005, we came across dozens of teenagers laying all over the steps and walkways on many decks at all hours and talking about how bored they were. At some areas, we couldn't even pass. Someone called security and they were cleared away and told not to do it again! Again, I guess the parents don't have to parent while THEY are on vacation, so the rest of us have to parent other people's kids not only for their safety, but for our sanity


I guess DH and I are opposite than some. We use vacations as an opprotunity to do serious parenting on how we expect our DD to act in public and to show, good manners and good behaviors are rewarded, where as poor behavior is not tolerated. We make 2-3 WDW trips a year, if she behaves badly, we leave the park or whatever activity we are doing immediately and go back to the hotel where she has to take a nap. We have cancelled bibbity bibbity boutique appointments and such to reinforce bad behavior is not rewarded, even if we are on vacation. We have made it very clear to her that on the cruise we are taking in July ( her first) she is expected to behave, we have let her take an active part in planning and have set parameters if she misbehaves. She is by far not perfect, and is easily excited and sometimes forgets her manners, but i make sure to correct her immediately, and if it has disturbed or affected anyone she is made to appologize ( as in she bolted into an elevator in front of someone, she was made to stop, exit the elevator, appologize to the people already waiting and wait for them to get on before entering the elevator). We do some of our best parenting and reinforcement of manners when on vacation.
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I guess DH and I are opposite than some. We use vacations as an opprotunity to do serious parenting on how we expect our DD to act in public and to show, good manners and good behaviors are rewarded, where as poor behavior is not tolerated. We make 2-3 WDW trips a year, if she behaves badly, we leave the park or whatever activity we are doing immediately and go back to the hotel where she has to take a nap. We have cancelled bibbity bibbity boutique appointments and such to reinforce bad behavior is not rewarded, even if we are on vacation. We have made it very clear to her that on the cruise we are taking in July ( her first) she is expected to behave, we have let her take an active part in planning and have set parameters if she misbehaves. She is by far not perfect, and is easily excited and sometimes forgets her manners, but i make sure to correct her immediately, and if it has disturbed or affected anyone she is made to appologize ( as in she bolted into an elevator in front of someone, she was made to stop, exit the elevator, appologize to the people already waiting and wait for them to get on before entering the elevator). We do some of our best parenting and reinforcement of manners when on vacation.

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Old 06-03-2013, 07:08 PM   #83
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I guess DH and I are opposite than some. We use vacations as an opprotunity to do serious parenting on how we expect our DD to act in public and to show, good manners and good behaviors are rewarded, where as poor behavior is not tolerated. We make 2-3 WDW trips a year, if she behaves badly, we leave the park or whatever activity we are doing immediately and go back to the hotel where she has to take a nap. We have cancelled bibbity bibbity boutique appointments and such to reinforce bad behavior is not rewarded, even if we are on vacation. We have made it very clear to her that on the cruise we are taking in July ( her first) she is expected to behave, we have let her take an active part in planning and have set parameters if she misbehaves. She is by far not perfect, and is easily excited and sometimes forgets her manners, but i make sure to correct her immediately, and if it has disturbed or affected anyone she is made to appologize ( as in she bolted into an elevator in front of someone, she was made to stop, exit the elevator, appologize to the people already waiting and wait for them to get on before entering the elevator). We do some of our best parenting and reinforcement of manners when on vacation.
I wish there was a clapping emoticon, I'd use it ten times. We have been parents for twenty five years now, and this was our exact parenting style. We never hit, or spanked, just always reinforced good behavior, and in bad, take away their prize toy, video game etc. and it worked. Awesome post, thank you.
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Old 06-03-2013, 07:15 PM   #84
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At the risk of coming across as being rude I am going to ask the question anyway.

From some of the comments in this thread, it seems like people expect the hallways to be practically silent 24 hours a day.

I understand expecting people to adhere to it during the requested quiet hours of 10pm to 8am but it sounds like people here are requesting that you are quiet and practically make no noise all day long.

I'll admit it, during the day I let my kids run down the hall. They weren't noisy, they weren't screaming, they weren't talking loudly, they weren't banging on the walls or doors, but yes they would run down the hall. There aren't a lot of places to really run around the ship. Yes there is deck 4, but it was frequently closed due to high winds and I'd rather them not run in front of runners. They are just burning off a little extra energy in an area where there are less likely to be a lot of people. They weren't allowed to run around corners just on the straight aways and were only allowed to get a few doors ahead of us at a time.

Would I let them do it early in the morning or in the evening? No. This was a 10am to 6pm thing. And you know what, I would probably do it again.
I am speechless.

So let me get this straight. You allow your children to run up and down the halls, between the hours of 10:00 am and 6:00 pm. Do you realize babies are taking naps? And maybe Mom and Dad are too, because baby had them up at 6:00 am that morning and they need some extra shut eye in the afternoon? Or folks that just came back from a long excursion, are exhausted, and are trying to sleep for an hour, so they can go have fun the rest of the night?? I cannot get over how inconsiderate and down right selfish your entire post is. Remember, these are sleeping quarters we are talking about, not playgrounds.
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There is a kid club and a pool area for burning off energy. The hallways aren't the place for that, and it's flat out dangerous. Not only could they get hurt, they could hurt someone else. You can count us in with the group that doesn't believe the word vacation means taking a break from parenting.

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I guess DH and I are opposite than some. We use vacations as an opprotunity to do serious parenting on how we expect our DD to act in public and to show, good manners and good behaviors are rewarded, where as poor behavior is not tolerated. We make 2-3 WDW trips a year, if she behaves badly, we leave the park or whatever activity we are doing immediately and go back to the hotel where she has to take a nap. We have cancelled bibbity bibbity boutique appointments and such to reinforce bad behavior is not rewarded, even if we are on vacation. We have made it very clear to her that on the cruise we are taking in July ( her first) she is expected to behave, we have let her take an active part in planning and have set parameters if she misbehaves. She is by far not perfect, and is easily excited and sometimes forgets her manners, but i make sure to correct her immediately, and if it has disturbed or affected anyone she is made to appologize ( as in she bolted into an elevator in front of someone, she was made to stop, exit the elevator, appologize to the people already waiting and wait for them to get on before entering the elevator). We do some of our best parenting and reinforcement of manners when on vacation.
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OK - they are not running up and down the halls crazy. My DD is 2. There are few places where she can run. And she is running 5 doorways at a time on a hallway where there are doors on only one side of the hall. Its barely running but I do let her get a little ahead of me.

I actually have very high standards of behavior for my children but for those few instances yes I would let her run a couple doors ahead. She'd then stop wait for me to get there and run a few more doors ahead. The rest of the time on the ship she had to walk next to me holding my hand so she wouldn't get lost or trampled on..

And no I do not want her running on deck 4 where there are serious runners coming by or people playing shuffle board. Nor do I want her running on the pool deck. And since she is 2, she is too young to go to the club and let of steam.

So yes I let her run quietly one the way to our room. She makes much less noise than the carts moving up and down the halls or groups talking in the halls.

And yes I know kids take naps but the way people are talking around her you would expect that people not even talk in the halls.

You can be speechless all you want. I don't consider it rude to let her run a few doors at a time to be rude or inconsiderate or unsafe. She knew to stay to the side so she wasn't by where the doors would open and someone would come out without seeing her.

Her running is like fast walking for most people.

There are just not a lot of places where a 2 year old can run. Letting her run a few steps ahead of me kept her from talking loudly.

You asked why parents would let their children run down the hallway, well this is why my daughter was allowed to run down the hall.

If she was older it wouldn't have been as much of an issue and I wouldn't have let her do it. This was her one area of freedom on the whole ship.
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I am speechless.

So let me get this straight. You allow your children to run up and down the halls, between the hours of 10:00 am and 6:00 pm. Do you realize babies are taking naps? And maybe Mom and Dad are too, because baby had them up at 6:00 am that morning and they need some extra shut eye in the afternoon? Or folks that just came back from a long excursion, are exhausted, and are trying to sleep for an hour, so they can go have fun the rest of the night?? I cannot get over how inconsiderate and down right selfish your entire post is. Remember, these are sleeping quarters we are talking about, not playgrounds.
I am speechless on this.

I can understand both sides , but I cannot understand how you could expect to not hear noise from the halls during the day.

It is a public ship with 2000+ people not your private home
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I am speechless on this.

I can understand both sides , but I cannot understand how you could expect to not hear noise from the halls during the day.

It is a public ship with 2000+ people not your private home
I don't expect silence. I expect respect of other people sleeping. Of course we are going to hear children. What I don't expect are posters saying I ALLOW my children to run through the hallways, and I will continue to do so.
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Haha, I have no idea. We are usually very careful with our door and do not allow it to slam. No manner of cajoling would have it close properly. We tried several ways while waiting for the maintenance guys to arrive. It seemed to be "falling" on its hinges a bit so the doorjamb was not quite square.

It did get better (in that it closed at all) after three visits to try to fix it, but they explained to us that it needed that extra hard contact to get it to "seat" properly.

Hopefully one of those things they will fix when the Wonder goes into dry dock.
And that, friends, is part of why the no over the door organizer things. Over time the weight causes the alignment to get out of whack.
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