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Old 05-29-2013, 01:32 PM   #571
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Believe it or not, I can accept that. I always tried really hard to NOT say "My kid would never do that!"....but deep in our hearts, I'm pretty sure most people think that way.

This is getting to be a bad habit, you and I agreeing on stuff.
the problem is with people who can't accept the fact its their kids who did it, despite the evidence at hand, and continually blame everyone else or look for excuses...sound familiar (by no means directed at you)??
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In the United States, the victim of a sexual assault (molestation) is not the one who presses charges. The State presses charges.

Any evidence would go before the Grand Jury, and then the Grand Jury makes the decision whether their is sufficient evidence to go to trial.
That depends on the state - as it would be prosecuted by the state and not the federal government. In general each state establishes its own criminal code.
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Old 05-29-2013, 01:40 PM   #573
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That depends on the state - as it would be prosecuted by the state and not the federal government. In general each state establishes its own criminal code.

True. This is how it works here in Arizona....from our own personal experience, anyway, and from my husband serving on the Grand Jury twice.
I was thinking that the other states must be at least somewhat similar.
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the problem is with people who can't accept the fact its their kids who did it, despite the evidence at hand, and continually blame everyone else or look for excuses...sound familiar (by no means directed at you)??

True.


Wow.....I must be in a really good (rare) mood today. I'm agreeing with everyone.

I think when I'm being really good , the Mods should give me Plus Points, so that the next time I get "in trouble", I have a surplus to work from.
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Old 05-29-2013, 02:20 PM   #575
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Wow.....I must be in a really good (rare) mood today. I'm agreeing with everyone.

I think when I'm being really good , the Mods should give me Plus Points, so that the next time I get "in trouble", I have a surplus to work from.


Don't feel bad about getting in trouble...The Mods know me really well!

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Don't feel bad about getting in trouble...The Mods know me really well!

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See....that's why I think we should get Plus Points!! Positive reinforcement goes a long way.
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In the United States, the victim of a sexual assault (molestation) is not the one who presses charges. The State presses charges.

Any evidence would go before the Grand Jury, and then the Grand Jury makes the decision whether their is sufficient evidence to go to trial.

And without the victim's testimony and no witnesses, the only evidence they have is a nebulas video. All you'd have is what some CM thought he heard and remembered the child say. There is not a grand jury in the country that would indict the guy in this case w/o any witnessess and no victim's testimony.
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And without the victim's testimony and no witnesses, the only evidence they have is a nebulas video. All you'd have is what some CM thought he heard and remembered the child say. There is not a grand jury in the country that would indict the guy in this case w/o any witnessess and no victim's testimony.

It's happening again..........I agree with you.

My husband is going to want to know your secret in getting me to agree......

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Wow.....I must be in a really good (rare) mood today. I'm agreeing with everyone.

I think when I'm being really good , the Mods should give me Plus Points, so that the next time I get "in trouble", I have a surplus to work from.
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Unless there is video that is more clear than what has been show it is inconclusive. It could be seen as supporting the girl's claim and it could also be seen as not proving anything. Like I said, maybe there's a video that is more clear.

Also, the reporter being reputable is a matter of opinion. I don't hold this reporter in high regard. Sensationalizing news doesn't make it more true. The reporter moved beyond facts and inserted conjecture. Until we see the report in its entirety, which I doubt we will, then it is still jumping to conclusions to believe that we have all the information needed. We don't even know exactly what the CM confessed to. Did he confess to purposely molesting the girl or did he confess to accidentally touching her?

As to appearances, that's exactly what I said. Jumping to conclusions. I can absolutely see where you are coming from but I think it's a rush to judgement. I'm not saying the DCL didn't try to cover it up, just that there isn't enough information to say for certain one way or another. There is the presumption of innocence in this country until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. I see no reason to consider Disney guilty, yet.
Jumping to conlusion, rush to judgement? Are you serious? The CM admitted he molested the girl. Can't be any more conclusive than that.
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I'm very proud of everyone here. This thread is up to 39 pages and has remained very civil despite differing opinions on a somewhat sensitive subject.
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Jumping to conlusion, rush to judgement? Are you serious? The CM admitted he molested the girl. Can't be any more conclusive than that.
We don't know what he confessed to. One could assume that he confessed to child molestation but he might have confessed to 'accidently' touching her breasts. And he may have flat out denied trying to kiss her saying he was just leaning in becasue he could not hear her. Unless we read his confession, we don't know what he confessed to.
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We don't know what he confessed to. One could assume that he confessed to child molestation but he might have confessed to 'accidently' touching her breasts. And he may have flat out denied trying to kiss her saying he was just leaning in becasue he could not hear her. Unless we read his confession, we don't know what he confessed to.
Click your heels 3 times and keep repeating DCL did nothing wrong and the CM accidentally touched the girls breast and you will return to the land of Disney is god and can do no wrong.
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Just spit balling here...........But............if we all took a cruise together..........maybe have a Dizboard live thread onboard.

Other guests could pose/post a question or subject.

I wonder if they would let us set up a boxing ring?....

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