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Old 05-18-2013, 05:41 PM   #16
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I'm glad he was caught, but I share the concern that a "bad apple" slipped through. What I've learned recently is a person's record doesn't necessarily cross state lines or jurisdictional lines. Someone who's been charged but not convicted, too, doesn't carry any baggage.
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Old 05-18-2013, 06:06 PM   #17
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Frankly reading this again, is anyone else bothered by the fact that Disney takes a screen shot of an employees computer every 3 seconds???? think how many of you are reading Disboards from work.....think your boss would approve? Big brother is watching at Disney that's for sure.
Not bothered at all. Disney owns the equipment and sets the rules of use and can monitor it if they so choose.
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Old 05-18-2013, 07:35 PM   #18
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My point is whatever background checks, if any, Disney does isn't enough to ensure possible sex offenders aren't hired.
Other than a criminal history check, what can they do? Is there another way to tell a possible sex offender? Their employees are fingerprinted, that is a sign that they do criminal background checks. I would hope through the FBI, which has the national databases. And should jobs be denied to persons who were accused but not convicted? Every day someone, somewhere gets falsely accused.

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Frankly reading this again, is anyone else bothered by the fact that Disney takes a screen shot of an employees computer every 3 seconds???? think how many of you are reading Disboards from work.....think your boss would approve? Big brother is watching at Disney that's for sure.
As an employer, Disney is perfectly entitled to do this on computers owned by the company. My computer at work carries a startup screen with a notification that all employee computer use is monitored. The computers and access thereof are considered the property of the employer, not the employee, and the employee has no reasonable expectation of privacy when using them.

How incredibly stupid do you have to be to use your employer's computer to download any type of pornography, much less the illegal kind.

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Old 05-18-2013, 11:27 PM   #19
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Nothing shocking here, happens all the time, i.e. using a work computer for such activities.
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Old 05-19-2013, 08:11 AM   #20
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Other than a criminal history check, what can they do? ......
How incredibly stupid do you have to be to use your employer's computer to download any type of pornography, much less the illegal kind.
Probably nothing else. A poster in the thread which discussed Disney policy of not selling APs to customers on the sex offender list said:

What's important here is keeping kids safe in an environment where parents tend to let their guard down

What's important is making sure the parents understand Disney can't make Disney safe enough for parent to let their guard down.

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Frankly reading this again, is anyone else bothered by the fact that Disney takes a screen shot of an employees computer every 3 seconds???? think how many of you are reading Disboards from work.....think your boss would approve? Big brother is watching at Disney that's for sure.
I'm more bothered by the number of employees who spend hours on a work computer planning vacations, checking sports.....Your boss doesn't approve you reading DIS at work? Don't do it.

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If you think it can't happen to you.....don't ever send goto look at the United States Government website but mistakenly think it's .com. The correct address is whitehouse.gov The other would get you in big trouble. Don't ask me how I know, lol.
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edited to add Whitehouse.com hasn't been a porn site in years.

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Old 05-19-2013, 08:27 AM   #21
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My point is whatever background checks, if any, Disney does isn't enough to ensure possible sex offenders aren't hired. My point is parents who assume WDW is safe for young kids, because it's Disney are wrong. My point is 7 years is a long time for a person like that to be around kids.

My point is posters who think Disney can check photo ID from every guest, in order to ensure customers on the sex offenders list can't enter WDW are living in Fantasyland.
I agree with everything you've written.

But, as I understand it, it wouldn't have mattered HOW thorough a background check they did, because that doesn't stop someone until after the FIRST time they're caught. I can't imagine what else Disney could have done in this case, any more than the congregation of this man could have done to protect themselves or their kids.

As much as we love to romanticize it, Disney World is a theme park. I think Disney does a fabulous job of trying to make it as safe as possible. But that simply does NOT mean it's "SAFE", just "as safe as possible." To be honest, I would be a lot more concerned about all the guests than any of hte CMs. Anyone can buy a ticket. Everyone has free access to the bathrooms, the resort hallways and staircases, and billion other places. There's no background check on the thousands of people on Disney property every single day.

Checking your good sense at the gate is a tragedy waiting to happen.

As to Disney checking to ensure that its employees are WORKING at work, no, I'm really fine with it. And if my employer wants to do the same, I'm good.

My primary concern here is for the 2 kids of the man they arrested.
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Old 05-19-2013, 09:07 AM   #22
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What's important here is keeping kids safe in an environment where parents tend to let their guard down

What's important is making sure the parents understand Disney can't make Disney safe enough for parent to let their guard down.



Both are what is important! They go hand in hand


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Is there another story that says he's a registered sex offender? This one makes it sounds like it's his first offense. Right now he's just a guy accused of something. How can Disney know what is in people's hearts? And sexual predators are drawn to places like this and schools and playgrounds. I'm glad Disney is being vigilant for us because our kids don't have that kind of protection most times they leave the house. Unfortunately we can never assume they are safe.
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WDW employs roughly 65,000 in central Florida alone. Not to mention the some 10,000 contractors and operating participants that work on property too (many of which interact with guests). This volume creates a challenge but they are at least up to date on techniques for weeding out those who are deemed undesirable. Disney's hiring policies are as good as they can be. They do their best to ensure nobody slips through the cracks and to catch those that turn bad. Granted, this is done NOW. Hiring policies and practices are drastically changing with technology. In this instance, where were we in 2006 when this guy was hired, what accesses did we have to prevent bad apples from getting in. Tonka said it best, they can't do anything until they get caught. Managers can profile people to the extent the law allows.

My takeaway form this story, Disney had a bad apple, he got caught, they got rid of him, and he's paying for his crime. As far as me and my humble opinion are concerned, Disney did their job and took care of the situation as best they could.

Completely agree with both of these. Disney may be magical, but how can they possibly know what is going on inside someone's head or heart?
Their screen shots have helped the authorities catch a sex predator.
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Old 05-19-2013, 10:08 AM   #24
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Frankly reading this again, is anyone else bothered by the fact that Disney takes a screen shot of an employees computer every 3 seconds???? think how many of you are reading Disboards from work.....think your boss would approve? Big brother is watching at Disney that's for sure.
It's not "Big Brother", it's his employer taking screen shots of THEIR OWN computer.

I think in this case you are looking for some type of conspiracy where absolutely none exists.

I don't think this was the "employees computer", I believe it was a computer belonging to Disney.
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Old 05-19-2013, 11:21 AM   #25
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It is odd that I can post about offenders yet again the DIS, sad really.

I found this to be an interesting story and given my job field (in treatment and assessment of sexual offenders) would find it interesting what happens to the guy now.

CP (child pornography) is a growing problem while the number of physical sexual assaults continues to go down. CP and internet/technology based offenses seems to be our future in the my field.

In my opinion, these guys can be hard to treat, but the majority of them do not offend physically, which is good news. I would have to pull out a journal for a few years ago to give the exact %.

I applaud Disney in this.
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Probably nothing else. A poster in the thread which discussed Disney policy of not selling APs to customers on the sex offender list said:

What's important here is keeping kids safe in an environment where parents tend to let their guard down

What's important is making sure the parents understand Disney can't make Disney safe enough for parent to let their guard down.
Hopefully all parents know this already that no such place exists. I went to one of the Catholic schools with a priest who is now in jail. We all liked him a lot before we knew. And my mom babysat for a child whose father was later arrested. You never know, even in your own home. The best you can do is get to know your kids and talk to them.
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I am glad they took care of it so fast and properly...............and a Pastor on top!. One sick *******!

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. . . employees are fingerprinted, that is a sign that they do criminal background checks. I would hope through the FBI, which has the national databases . . .

1) That is all they can do.
2) After all, I slipped through.
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Old 05-26-2013, 12:44 AM   #29
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It's not "Big Brother", it's his employer taking screen shots of THEIR OWN computer.

I think in this case you are looking for some type of conspiracy where absolutely none exists.

I don't think this was the "employees computer", I believe it was a computer belonging to Disney.

No, not looking for conspiracy and yes, Disney has the legal right to monitor their computers.....but it also still is just weird to me that they would do that. I live in the new Fantasyland, having moved from the old Fantasyland.....and CMs are good people that don't need that level of checking! Somehow it conjures up Yensid in my warped brain.
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No, not looking for conspiracy and yes, Disney has the legal right to monitor their computers.....but it also still is just weird to me that they would do that. I live in the new Fantasyland, having moved from the old Fantasyland.....and CMs are good people that don't need that level of checking! Somehow it conjures up Yensid in my warped brain.


It's not weird at all, it is simply part of business today and I am glad Disney is doing all they can to weed out these sickos!

this is not someone surfing the net or planning a vacation on company time. This sicko was dealing in illegal and totally horrific child abuse.

The fact we have at least this one child porno guy shows they are being successful! I am sure the rest of the good CM's at Disney are happy this guy is gone!

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