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Old 05-15-2013, 01:24 PM   #61
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How/Where does one get this GAC and what proof is needed ?

I have COPD which causes stamina problems. also something that causes my leg to sometimes go numb if I stand to long.

If no proof is needed, then I can just walk up and say I have whatever to get this card ?

If that is the case I can understand how some people are skeptical of
invisible ailments, I had no idea I might be illegible for this card and must admit, I would be one of the people saying why are they handicapped they look fine.
It sounds like a GAC wouldn't really help you. WDWs answer to mobility and stamina problems is rent a WC or ECV. There is no place that you could sit in lines and a GAC isn't a front of the line pass. It states on the card that it is not intended to shorten wait times.

You may also want to check into a walker with a seat. You could take this into lines and it would give you a place to sit.
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It sounds like a GAC wouldn't really help you. WDWs answer to mobility and stamina problems is rent a WC or ECV. There is no place that you could sit in lines and a GAC isn't a front of the line pass. It states on the card that it is not intended to shorten wait times.

You may also want to check into a walker with a seat. You could take this into lines and it would give you a place to sit.
thanks for the reply

Curious, I seem to have the same as the OP, and I quote
"I don't have stamina, I cannot handle heat and standing to long.
So except for the heat issue what is different between us, how did they get a GAC.
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Old 05-15-2013, 04:41 PM   #63
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I have a 6 month old daughter with Down's syndrome. Going to the parks is something that my family enjoys and we want to share that with her. I believe that I can get a GAC for her because we have to use a stroller as a wheelchair for her because she doesn't have great stability in her neck. I sure know that people would look at us as if we were doing something wrong but unfortunately they do not know our situation and they shouldn't judge others because they are using the GAC for a reason not just to get to the front of the line! 😄
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I have a 6 month old daughter with Down's syndrome. Going to the parks is something that my family enjoys and we want to share that with her. I believe that I can get a GAC for her because we have to use a stroller as a wheelchair for her because she doesn't have great stability in her neck. I sure know that people would look at us as if we were doing something wrong but unfortunately they do not know our situation and they shouldn't judge others because they are using the GAC for a reason not just to get to the front of the line! 😄
Just to make sure you realize, you will not get to the front of te line with a gac. You will be allowed to bring your stroller into the queue unless there are stairs or some other reason why you would use a wheelchair entrance. Which also will not get you to the front of the line.
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I think she just needs it so that her daughter can stay in her stroller. Baby wearing a child who can not hold her neck is very difficult especially in the summer heat.
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I understand that I can't get to the front of the line. I washing a point that people should not look at a person using a GAC as a person trying to get to the front.
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I have a 6 month old daughter with Down's syndrome. Going to the parks is something that my family enjoys and we want to share that with her. I believe that I can get a GAC for her because we have to use a stroller as a wheelchair for her because she doesn't have great stability in her neck. I sure know that people would look at us as if we were doing something wrong but unfortunately they do not know our situation and they shouldn't judge others because they are using the GAC for a reason not just to get to the front of the line! 😄

I believe Down's is generally pretty visible, correct? I imagine most people will be able to tell that she has special needs and even if they were prone to being judgey would back off in your case. Get the GAC and the stroller as wheelchair tag and you should be fine.
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thanks for the reply

Curious, I seem to have the same as the OP, and I quote
"I don't have stamina, I cannot handle heat and standing to long.
So except for the heat issue what is different between us, how did they get a GAC.
If you feel you need a GAC, you have every right to request one no matter what anyone on this forum says. You don't need to explain yourself here.

Seeing all the trips in your signature, I'm sure you already know how much walking is involved at Disney. If you're not already using one, a wheelchair or ECV certainly would help.
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If you feel you need a GAC, you have every right to request one no matter what anyone on this forum says. You don't need to explain yourself here.

Seeing all the trips in your signature, I'm sure you already know how much walking is involved at Disney. If you're not already using one, a wheelchair or ECV certainly would help.
There may have been an additional need not specified on this forum. Or a CM may have had an idea to help we are not aware of here.

I have also seen a CM give a GAC to someone who had stamina or mobility concerns, just trying to help. Sometimes it turns out to be the wrong thing for them, and they should have rented a chair.

I saw something like this happen at Jungle Cruise in DL recently - there was quite a long line in the accessible entrance line (which is just a roped off area to the side of the exit) - (in full sun, though it was March or so, so not too hot) and someone had a GAC that allowed them to use the accessible entrance for whatever reason.

I did not speak to the party, but one man was loud enough that I heard him saying "She cannot stand this long! I have this thing! (waving the GAG around), She is not supposed to have to wait!" I did not see the stamp on the GAC, but the CM reassured the man that the party WAS allowed to be in the accessible line, he really did have to wait in it. He was very upset and made enough noise that the lead came out. Once again, the man was assured he had to wait in either the mainstream or the accessible line at the exit, but those were the only two ways to enter the attraction. When the man again waved around the GAC, a CM pointed out that everyone in the accessible line needed to be there too. Both CMs left him in his place in line at this point.

There was a woman in the party who appeared to be going through chemo (hat, lack of eyebrows, port in her arm under sterile cover).

She would have been MUCH better served by having a wheelchair than whatever GAC she had in that situation. She still would have been in the accessible line, but at least she would have been sitting!

I tell this story for a couple reasons. One is to say that the GAC, on this board and in general conversation, seems to have taken on magical properties, and many guides even make a person feel they MUST have one, no matter what their needs may be.

The second is to point out that while there are different stamps, many GACs result in people waiting in the same line. No GAC "outranks" another, nor does a GAC "outrank" a wheelchair, or vice versa. So if there is a line and a person gets a GAC to avoid a wheelchair, it does not matter if Mickey Mouse himself gave that person the GAC, they are STILL waiting in line. Consider this when deciding whether or not to rent a wheelchair. A GAC usually will not change what happens if a wheelchair meets your needs.
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Does a person with a wheelchair or scooter need a GAC to use a wheelchair entrance or use it in the queues? This is something I've been wondering since the recent discussions have led me to believe they don't.

Specifically, the time I had rented an ECV, could I have taken it through the line in Soarin' without the use of a GAC? Hopefully I won't have need of an ECV again for a long time to come. But, if I do, it would be nice to have it in particularly long lines.

I know I could request a GAC, but likely never will. The main reason being that I live close by and do WDW often so it doesn't matter how much how many rides I go on. I enjoy many things other than the rides. I also enjoy most of the queues - the exceptions being Soarin' and Peter Pan, which I have heard it being redone.
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Does a person with a wheelchair or scooter need a GAC to use a wheelchair entrance or use it in the queues? This is something I've been wondering since the recent discussions have led me to believe they don't.

Specifically, the time I had rented an ECV, could I have taken it through the line in Soarin' without the use of a GAC? Hopefully I won't have need of an ECV again for a long time to come. But, if I do, it would be nice to have it in particularly long lines.

I know I could request a GAC, but likely never will. The main reason being that I live close by and do WDW often so it doesn't matter how much how many rides I go on. I enjoy many things other than the rides. I also enjoy most of the queues - the exceptions being Soarin' and Peter Pan, which I have heard it being redone.
If the only need is to use the wheelchair or ECV, then a GAC is not necessary as the w/c or ECV is the "visible" sign of assistance - and yes you should be able to take it in lines without having a GAC. There are occasionally reports of CMs refusing access without a GAC, but I think those are few and far between, probably a new CM in training or something. GAC is not needed unless the guest has other "invisible" needs that are not accommodated by just using the w/c or ECV.
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The only place that I have had an issue with Cast Members being difficult has been the Haunted Mansion, and I've had issues there on my past four vacations which have all happened since they made it ADA accessible. Ironic but true, the ADA queue was possibly the worst thing for me at HM. I'm not even sure that I will try to ride it in the future because the Cast Members just can't get it right for me. Last time (Oct 2012) I spoke with the lead trainer on duty and she admitted that they were having serious problems communicating available options to guests at HM. It was great to speak with her and she was so nice to me, and I was able to understand where their issues were, but in the end I'm sick of coming out of that attraction embarassed, in tears, or in so much pain I have to leave the park entirely.

When things like this happen you have got to take it to the lead, and if you don't get the treatment you think is acceptable from them, tell guest services. That's not to say that you'll get what you want, but you should be treated with respect, not suspicion. If people are downright rude to you, you have to let Guest Relations know.

On the flip side... when Cast Members are exceptional and go above and beyond for you, let Guest Relations know that too!
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I'm sick of coming out of that attraction embarassed, in tears, or in so much pain I have to leave the park entirely.
Would you mind posting further details about the problems or procedures at HM? I have read others mention this also, but no specifics.

My wheelchair bound son will be coming down in November and we will be taking a family trip to WDW. I'm wondering if we should skip this ride all together? I would hate to have him do that given it's an awesome ride.

ETA: There are usually scooters and/or wheelchairs in the stretching room with me so I know they go that far in the normal queue.
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We had a problem at the HM with my brother too. Part of it was my fault, I didn't tell the very first CM that we had a GAC and needed the walkway stopped. I told the person at the walkway and it was too late. She seemed crabby, but she was just staying in character. I think a lot of the HM CM's come across as uncaring when they are just trying to just stay in character.

However, it is very disorganized for special needs.
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Would you mind posting further details about the problems or procedures at HM? I have read others mention this also, but no specifics.

My wheelchair bound son will be coming down in November and we will be taking a family trip to WDW. I'm wondering if we should skip this ride all together? I would hate to have him do that given it's an awesome ride.

ETA: There are usually scooters and/or wheelchairs in the stretching room with me so I know they go that far in the normal queue.
With the new que you can take your scooter wheelchair through the stretching room and as you exit their be a cm or and entrance that will bring you out to the exit and that where you load. The problem with hm know is that they got rid or the turn style they won't let you just go to the exit like before now you have to enter the building either go into the stretching room or use the exit before. So guest with low vision or can't see that we'll in the dark are having a hard time because none of the cms or manager understand that they need to use the exit and not go into the building for their safety. It like they said we made the line accessible and that all where going to do so if your ot in a wheelchair or scooter and don't have someone with you to help you in the dark your going to have a problem.
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