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Old 05-11-2013, 07:57 AM   #301
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So pages and pages of posters going on about the terrible scenarios of evil HR making the OP meet with the doctor and that was never the case. HR was actually doing what HR departments do and gathering information, they didn't know the doctor talked to the OP, and gave reasonable advice for going forward.

Gee where is al the drama for everyone in that.
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Old 05-11-2013, 08:34 AM   #302
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This...what occurred was a hit and run which is a felony. She sould be arrested. If I were to guess there is a bigger reason she did not want to report.
The doctor has legal issues right now but I doubt very much she's going to be charged with a felony. A traffic violation, certainly, maybe a misdemeanor. But no one got hurt, the only harm was property damage.

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Old 05-11-2013, 09:53 AM   #303
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The doctor has legal issues right now but I doubt very much she's going to be charged with a felony. A traffic violation, certainly, maybe a misdemeanor. But no one got hurt, the only harm was property damage.

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It was a ht and run, not sure what would happen where the OP lives, but here there would be a court case and possible jail time.

As for the comments of the OP getting fired for speaking about this issue. I really doubt HR could be that dumb. This would open up a wrongful termination case from the OP. She would have every right to sue.
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Old 05-11-2013, 10:03 AM   #304
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It was a ht and run, not sure what would happen where the OP lives, but here there would be a court case and possible jail time.

As for the comments of the OP getting fired for speaking about this issue. I really doubt HR could be that dumb. This would open up a wrongful termination case from the OP. She would have every right to sue.
Again, don't know where the OP lives, but in New York it would not be a court case or involve jail time. It would be a traffic infraction. (It's a misdemeanor if there is personal injury.) Although I recognize that other states vary, I assume NY is not the only one with this approach.

Good luck OP. Now is the kind of time when my grandmother's advice comes in handy: "Keep a smile on your face and keep your mouth shut."
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Old 05-11-2013, 10:29 AM   #305
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I also doubt there will be a court case. It was private property, there were no injuries and assuming that the doctor cooperates with insurance to indemnity the OP. Maybe a ticket. The courts have more serious cases taking up their time. If it would have been on road, she didn't stop to check if there were injuries and just took off, that would be a different case.
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Old 05-11-2013, 10:43 AM   #306
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It was a ht and run, not sure what would happen where the OP lives, but here there would be a court case and possible jail time.

As for the comments of the OP getting fired for speaking about this issue. I really doubt HR could be that dumb. This would open up a wrongful termination case from the OP. She would have every right to sue.

I also doubt the OP would actually be fired if she talks to her fellow employees about the matter, but it is a disciplinary issue. HR has every reason to warn her against talking about the matter, and she could be disciplined for insubordination.

As for the hit and run...in most jurisdictions the penalty for a "hit and run" situation varies depending on the severity of the damage. for property damage it's either treated as a traffic violation or a misdemeanor. And it's the type of situation where most prosecutors are very willing to resolve the matter without a misdemeanor conviction if the damage to the other vehicle is paid for.

That is, if the prosecutor chooses to pursue the matter in the first place.
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Old 05-11-2013, 10:53 AM   #307
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Thanks for the update....

I does sound like HR is handling more appropriately.
And, yes, I do feel it is reasonable to ask an employee to refrain from talking any more than absolutely necessary about an incident that could have some further serious repercussions.

Okay, OP, you can sit back and take three deep breaths now!!!
Have your husband help you with any issues with insurance coverage.
(do consider getting a bigger vehicle....)

Sorry this has all happened!!!!!
It will all work out okay in the end!
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Old 05-11-2013, 11:01 AM   #308
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So pages and pages of posters going on about the terrible scenarios of evil HR making the OP meet with the doctor and that was never the case. HR was actually doing what HR departments do and gathering information, they didn't know the doctor talked to the OP, and gave reasonable advice for going forward.

Gee where is al the drama for everyone in that.


The OP'er stated that she was going in to have a meeting between herself, HR, and the doctor. I stand by my statement: In no way, shape, or form would I agree to a meeting with the doctor. If HR wanted to talk to me (which turned out to be the case) no problem. But I would never consider meeting with the doctor who ruined my vehicle, only checked on her own vehicle, didn't report it, and then waited for me in the parking lot and badgered me. The lawyer on this thread insisted mediation was a good thing. I couldn't disagree more and I am glad to see that HR did not feel mediation between the two parties was necessary. HR, the insurance company, and the police all need to do their job and unless this goes to court, the OP'er does not need to sit with the doctor under any circumstances.
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Old 05-11-2013, 11:29 AM   #309
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The OP'er stated that she was going in to have a meeting between herself, HR, and the doctor. I stand by my statement: In no way, shape, or form would I agree to a meeting with the doctor. If HR wanted to talk to me (which turned out to be the case) no problem. But I would never consider meeting with the doctor who ruined my vehicle, only checked on her own vehicle, didn't report it, and then waited for me in the parking lot and badgered me. The lawyer on this thread insisted mediation was a good thing. I couldn't disagree more and I am glad to see that HR did not feel mediation between the two parties was necessary. HR, the insurance company, and the police all need to do their job and unless this goes to court, the OP'er does not need to sit with the doctor under any circumstances.
You're basing your entire opinion on something that the OP stated and she was wrong. There was no meeting with the Dr.

I suspect that the OP has misunderstood/misinterpreted other things that were said by HR as well.
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You're basing your entire opinion on something that the OP stated and she was wrong. There was no meeting with the Dr.

I suspect that the OP has misunderstood/misinterpreted other things that were said by HR as well.
Well of course I was! So were you and everyone else who was posting. There were two sides in this debate; those who felt like meeting with the doctor was fine and those who felt it was a bad idea. There was never a side that said, "You totally misunderstood the phone call and there is no way they are having you meet with the doctor." The OP'er misunderstood and admits that. No biggie. We all do that from time to time. But I will continue to stick to the side that says the OP'er should not have any contact with the doctor and there is zero need for mediation.
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I also doubt the OP would actually be fired if she talks to her fellow employees about the matter, but it is a disciplinary issue. HR has every reason to warn her against talking about the matter, and she could be disciplined for insubordination.

As for the hit and run...in most jurisdictions the penalty for a "hit and run" situation varies depending on the severity of the damage. for property damage it's either treated as a traffic violation or a misdemeanor. And it's the type of situation where most prosecutors are very willing to resolve the matter without a misdemeanor conviction if the damage to the other vehicle is paid for.

That is, if the prosecutor chooses to pursue the matter in the first place.
Exactly, in my state it's a second degree misdemeanor and she would be offered pre-trial diversion, wherein she would have to take a driving class and maybe some community service. Leaving the scene of an accident where no person was injured is not consisted a "victim" crime, because the crime is leaving the scene, not committing an act on a person. The owner of the damaged car would be a witness if it went to trial, but they would not be consulted as to the plea.

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Old 05-11-2013, 02:56 PM   #312
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Well of course I was! So were you and everyone else who was posting. There were two sides in this debate; those who felt like meeting with the doctor was fine and those who felt it was a bad idea. There was never a side that said, "You totally misunderstood the phone call and there is no way they are having you meet with the doctor." The OP'er misunderstood and admits that. No biggie. We all do that from time to time. But I will continue to stick to the side that says the OP'er should not have any contact with the doctor and there is zero need for mediation.
I agree there is no need for mediation but I also never thought it was going to happen.
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Exactly, in my state it's a second degree misdemeanor and she would be offered pre-trial diversion, wherein she would have to take a driving class and maybe some community service. Leaving the scene of an accident where no person was injured is not consisted a "victim" crime, because the crime is leaving the scene, not committing an act on a person. The owner of the damaged cat would be a witness if it went to trial, but they would not be consulted as to the plea.
Wait, a cat got hurt?
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