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Old 05-10-2013, 05:45 PM   #256
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OP you've gotten a lot of good advice here, I hope this all works out in your favor. I'm just totally dumbfounded that someone - a doctor no less who you'd think would have morals & compassion - could hit your car that badly & drive off without reporting it! What the heck is this world coming to? My God people just do the right thing! It seems simple to me that if you damage someone else's property you fess up immediately & take care of it. Isn't that a basic life lesson? Tell the truth, do the right thing, take care of your responsibilities.

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Old 05-10-2013, 05:50 PM   #257
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Why not? As long as my landlord, my grocer, my cable company, etc. also work for free.

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Old 05-10-2013, 05:56 PM   #258
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Contingency fee arrangement only apply to tort cases. Like when you sustain a bodily injury as a result of a car accident. If you want a lawyer to sit in on a meeting with HR "just because" you're going to pay the hourly rate.

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That's what I meant, they would not work on a contingency in this case, she would have to pay. The post I quoted said you don't have to sue to get a lawyer. If you don't sue, then you are going to have to pay. It's hard to get a lawyer to accept a contingency case. My brother broke his ankle on an icy sidewalk and took a long time to find a lawyer to take it. One did but they took 40% (of $100,000).
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Old 05-10-2013, 06:02 PM   #259
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There was a third car in the accident also. They too must be involved because their car was damaged when the OP's car was pushed into it. Was the owner of that car called into the meeting?

It was a car accident. Noone was hurt. The doctor is a jerk. It doesn't matter if it was a doctor or a janitor. It doesn't matter if she's driving a Bentley or a Dodge. She is a jerk for not leaving a note.

Turn the situation over to your insurance, tell them there is a video of the accident and move on. What can you gain by perseverating on the situation but added stress ?
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Old 05-10-2013, 06:05 PM   #260
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Not a matter of ethics at all. The courts of each state have set rules governing contingency fee agreements. In some states a 40% fee is permitted.

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Our state simply states the client must sign a contract which stipulates the percentage. So, here, yes, it is a matter of ethics.
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Old 05-10-2013, 07:11 PM   #261
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Which states? I can't pore through the 50 state laws on hit-and-run, but I don't know why the law would differentiate between private property and public roads. Maybe it wouldn't be a traffic violation, but a driver's negligence that results in thousands of dollars worth of damage to another person's property becomes a criminal matter when the person drives away from the scene to avoid taking responsibility for their negligence.

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Leaving the scene of an accident is considered hit and run in California. This accident can involve another car, an unattended vehicle, another person, a pedestrian, an animal, any private or governmental property, such as a mail box or parking meter, and so on. Even if you were not at fault, leaving the scene of accident without providing necessary information to the other parties, or providing help to the injured in case of an injury, is considered hit and run.

California hit and run charges can be either misdemeanor or felony. Leaving the scene of an accident resulting in property damage is considered misdemeanors. For California hit and run misdemeanor there will be points on the driving record and fines to pay. It may sometimes even involve jail time. You should also reimburse the other party for all the damages occurred.


I just haven't seen anything that says you can hit and run on private property and it's not a misdemeanor criminal offense.
California, unless the local government and property owner have reached an agreement to allow California Vehicle Code to apply on the property, and THEN the property owner must prominently posted. Now, you DO have to report, in writing, within 10 days, any such collision, private or public property, to DMV.
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/idt_accidents.htm
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Old 05-10-2013, 07:32 PM   #262
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Op. what did hr want?
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Old 05-10-2013, 07:38 PM   #263
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I'll probably get jumped on for saying this, but the tone of this thread is reminiscent of the pregnant lady with cheating husband escaping to Canada thread to me. Some of this story just doesn't ring true to me, but it sure has stirred up quite a lively conversation! Hope I'm off-base on this one.
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Old 05-10-2013, 07:42 PM   #264
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I'll probably get jumped on for saying this, but the tone of this thread is reminiscent of the pregnant lady with cheating husband escaping to Canada thread to me. Some of this story just doesn't ring true to me, but it sure has stirred up quite a lively conversation! Hope I'm off-base on this one.
Except its a regular poster posting under their own name. Story seems believable enough to me.

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Old 05-10-2013, 07:54 PM   #265
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California, unless the local government and property owner have reached an agreement to allow California Vehicle Code to apply on the property, and THEN the property owner must prominently posted. Now, you DO have to report, in writing, within 10 days, any such collision, private or public property, to DMV.
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/idt_accidents.htm
http://apps.dmv.ca.gov/forms/sr/sr1.pdf
I still don't see any differentiation between public and private property. In the report to which you linked, it says "California law requires traffic accidents on a California street/highway or private property to be reported to the DMV within 10 days if there was an injury, death or property damage in excess of $750."

And this section of code says:

20002. (a) The driver of any vehicle involved in an accident resulting only in damage to any property, including vehicles, shall immediately stop the vehicle at the nearest location that will not impede traffic or otherwise jeopardize the safety of other motorists. Moving the vehicle in accordance with this subdivision does not affect the question of fault. The driver shall also immediately do either of the following:

(1) Locate and notify the owner or person in charge of that property of the name and address of the driver and owner of the vehicle involved and, upon locating the driver of any other vehicle involved or the owner or person in charge of any damaged property, upon being requested, present his or her driver's license, and vehicle registration, to the other driver, property owner, or person in charge of that property. The information presented shall include the current residence address of the driver and of the registered owner. If the registered owner of an involved vehicle is present at the scene, he or she shall also, upon request, present his or her driver's license information, if available, or other valid identification to the other involved parties.

(2) Leave in a conspicuous place on the vehicle or other property damaged a written notice giving the name and address of the driver and of the owner of the vehicle involved and a statement of the circumstances thereof and shall without unnecessary delay notify the police department of the city wherein the collision occurred or, if the collision occurred in unincorporated territory, the local headquarters of the Department of the California Highway Patrol.

(b) Any person who parks a vehicle which, prior to the vehicle again being driven, becomes a runaway vehicle and is involved in an accident resulting in damage to any property, attended or unattended, shall comply with the requirements of this section relating to notification and reporting and shall, upon conviction thereof, be liable to the penalties of this section for failure to comply with the requirements.

(c) Any person failing to comply with all the requirements of this section is guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction thereof, shall be punished by imprisonment in the county jail not exceeding six months, or by a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both that imprisonment and fine.


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Old 05-10-2013, 08:12 PM   #266
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I'll probably get jumped on for saying this, but the tone of this thread is reminiscent of the pregnant lady with cheating husband escaping to Canada thread to me. Some of this story just doesn't ring true to me, but it sure has stirred up quite a lively conversation! Hope I'm off-base on this one.
You're not alone, my BS-meter was going off, mostly about the post of HR leaving a voice mail requesting the lunch meeting. First off, most HR depts would not leave that in a voice mail. Second, it seems off to me that HR would WANT the 2 parties together. Usually they would speak to each party independently and only together if BOTH parties were requesting such a meeting with HR. Like you, I hope I am wrong and apologize to the OP if I am. I think it is the pregnancy similarity that reminds you/me of the previous hoaxter. If it is true, it is pretty ridiculous really....her car was hit, damage was done, insurance handles it, end of story. No way it should be getting this complicated. I also wonder why the 3rd party hasn't been mentioned (as another poster mentioned) in any of this info? Why would the Dr only be interacting with OP since her insurance would be covering 2 vehicles? I know the OP orig posted about the possibility of over-reacting due to hormones, so that certainly seemed like a normal type of reaction or post..but as it went on, I don't know. Thw whole thing is just sad whether true or not.
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I'll probably get jumped on for saying this, but the tone of this thread is reminiscent of the pregnant lady with cheating husband escaping to Canada thread to me. Some of this story just doesn't ring true to me, but it sure has stirred up quite a lively conversation! Hope I'm off-base on this one.
Off topic: was that a scammer? I remember those posts but did t keep following and then was off the DIS for a number of months.

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The OP has an awful lot of posts, more than the average scammer. And her HR dept doesn't sound like the most competent, since they just flubbed her health insurance last month. I'm giving this one the benefit of the doubt.
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The OP has an awful lot of posts, more than the average scammer. And her HR dept doesn't sound like the most competent, since they just flubbed her health insurance last month. I'm giving this one the benefit of the doubt.
I am hoping that I am just cynical on all this, I really am. I think it is the similarity of being pg like the other poster that is making some of us pause...well, that and the fact that HR is operating in such a way
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