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Old 05-05-2013, 03:14 PM   #1
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At mass this morning we were having 1st communion celebration. My family was sitting in front of us ant the next 3 pews in front of us were Mexican families. They had toddlers. As father was speaking, the toddlers got up and wondered around. Left their pews and proceeded to run around father. The parents did nothing, did not look at the spouse or even try to corral them. One altar server who is Mexican glared at the mothers, with a look that indicated get up and get YOUR kids. One dad did finally get up and try to get his. When father saw what was going on behind him, he stopped talking and turned to the three families. Spoke to them in Spanish telling them that they needed to take them out of church if they could not control them in the pew, and that there were toys in the church hall.

Then communion time came and father stepped forward to give communion the little kids were at it again, they ran around the altar, grabbed a hold of one of the big candles. The one Altar server got up grabbed one of them and gave her back to her parents.

I've noticed this a lot amongst this culture. When we have home basketball games. the parents sit in the top bleacher and never watch their kids. Our court is very small. so you time you walk along the sides with which way the teams are running. These little kids are sitting on the restraining lines, wondering on and off the court, throwing toys out there. Many times they have tripped at ref who was back peddling. ball players have jumped over them. Again the parents do nothing. it takes another person like the principle, other teachers and fans. to grab them from being trampled and hand them back to their parents. This also happens at school concerts and programs. on all the programs in both English and Spanish it states the all children must remain seated during the game unless with an adult, no running. My kids wait for time out to head to the bathroom or concession stand.

Is this normal for the Mexican culture? Not sure if I should say Hispanic because they refer to themselves as Mexican.
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At mass this morning we were having 1st communion celebration. My family was sitting in front of us ant the next 3 pews in front of us were Mexican families. They had toddlers. As father was speaking, the toddlers got up and wondered around. Left their pews and proceeded to run around father. The parents did nothing, did not look at the spouse or even try to corral them. One altar server who is Mexican glared at the mothers, with a look that indicated get up and get YOUR kids. One dad did finally get up and try to get his. When father saw what was going on behind him, he stopped talking and turned to the three families. Spoke to them in Spanish telling them that they needed to take them out of church if they could not control them in the pew, and that there were toys in the church hall.

Then communion time came and father stepped forward to give communion the little kids were at it again, they ran around the altar, grabbed a hold of one of the big candles. The one Altar server got up grabbed one of them and gave her back to her parents.

I've noticed this a lot amongst this culture. When we have home basketball games. the parents sit in the top bleacher and never watch their kids. Our court is very small. so you time you walk along the sides with which way the teams are running. These little kids are sitting on the restraining lines, wondering on and off the court, throwing toys out there. Many times they have tripped at ref who was back peddling. ball players have jumped over them. Again the parents do nothing. it takes another person like the principle, other teachers and fans. to grab them from being trampled and hand them back to their parents. This also happens at school concerts and programs. on all the programs in both English and Spanish it states the all children must remain seated during the game unless with an adult, no running. My kids wait for time out to head to the bathroom or concession stand.

Is this normal for the Mexican culture? Not sure if I should say Hispanic because they refer to themselves as Mexican.
This would totally not fly in our parish regardless of the nationality of the child. We have a cryroom, free baby sitting of kids ages 1 to 3, and childrens liturgy of the Word for ages 4 to 1st grade and encourage all families to use these ministries.

One of the strictest moms I know is of Mexican descent and she would have politely had a conversation with the family in the op in Spanish or English.

Although, we had an American baby cry throughout the whole mass today. Ay yi yi! Smh I really did hope fr. would say something to the mom. But he didn't. I will ask him about that one this week.
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I don't think it is the Mexican culture, just bad parenting...
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I don't think it is the Mexican culture, just bad parenting...
Agreed. It has nothing to do with their race, nationality, ethnicity, etc.
It's bad parenting, plain and simple.
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Old 05-05-2013, 03:46 PM   #8
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Those damn Mexicans. They are probably the reason kids aren't invited to weddings anymore!


This couldn't possibly just be bad parenting, could it?
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This would totally not fly in our parish regardless of the nationality of the child. We have a cryroom, free baby sitting of kids ages 1 to 3, and childrens liturgy of the Word for ages 4 to 1st grade and encourage all families to use these ministries.

One of the strictest moms I know is of Mexican descent and she would have politely had a conversation with the family in the op in Spanish or English.

Although, we had an American baby cry throughout the whole mass today. Ay yi yi! Smh I really did hope fr. would say something to the mom. But he didn't. I will ask him about that one this week.
we don't have a cryroom or childrens lit. is all together.
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At mass this morning we were having 1st communion celebration. My family was sitting in front of us ant the next 3 pews in front of us were Mexican families. They had toddlers. As father was speaking, the toddlers got up and wondered around. Left their pews and proceeded to run around father. The parents did nothing, did not look at the spouse or even try to corral them. One altar server who is Mexican glared at the mothers, with a look that indicated get up and get YOUR kids. One dad did finally get up and try to get his. When father saw what was going on behind him, he stopped talking and turned to the three families. Spoke to them in Spanish telling them that they needed to take them out of church if they could not control them in the pew, and that there were toys in the church hall.

Then communion time came and father stepped forward to give communion the little kids were at it again, they ran around the altar, grabbed a hold of one of the big candles. The one Altar server got up grabbed one of them and gave her back to her parents.

I've noticed this a lot amongst this culture. When we have home basketball games. the parents sit in the top bleacher and never watch their kids. Our court is very small. so you time you walk along the sides with which way the teams are running. These little kids are sitting on the restraining lines, wondering on and off the court, throwing toys out there. Many times they have tripped at ref who was back peddling. ball players have jumped over them. Again the parents do nothing. it takes another person like the principle, other teachers and fans. to grab them from being trampled and hand them back to their parents. This also happens at school concerts and programs. on all the programs in both English and Spanish it states the all children must remain seated during the game unless with an adult, no running. My kids wait for time out to head to the bathroom or concession stand.

Is this normal for the Mexican culture? Not sure if I should say Hispanic because they refer to themselves as Mexican.
It's first communion and your complaining about babies? Get over it! It's a day where families come together and celebrate. Im sure you could of attended another mass.
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Old 05-05-2013, 04:05 PM   #11
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Maybe I need to add that these families are rather new here. A Hispanic mom who has been here for at least 15yrs gets on these new ones and tells them that you have to watch them and that you cant leave them (1yr and under) home while you go 10 miles to pick up your older kid. tells them that this is not Mexico. and that they need to be more American.

So that is why I asked, I wondered if it was normal for Mexican families to do this.
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At mass this morning we were having 1st communion celebration. My family was sitting in front of us ant the next 3 pews in front of us were Mexican families. They had toddlers. As father was speaking, the toddlers got up and wondered around. Left their pews and proceeded to run around father. The parents did nothing, did not look at the spouse or even try to corral them. One altar server who is Mexican glared at the mothers, with a look that indicated get up and get YOUR kids. One dad did finally get up and try to get his. When father saw what was going on behind him, he stopped talking and turned to the three families. Spoke to them in Spanish telling them that they needed to take them out of church if they could not control them in the pew, and that there were toys in the church hall.

Then communion time came and father stepped forward to give communion the little kids were at it again, they ran around the altar, grabbed a hold of one of the big candles. The one Altar server got up grabbed one of them and gave her back to her parents.

I've noticed this a lot amongst this culture. When we have home basketball games. the parents sit in the top bleacher and never watch their kids. Our court is very small. so you time you walk along the sides with which way the teams are running. These little kids are sitting on the restraining lines, wondering on and off the court, throwing toys out there. Many times they have tripped at ref who was back peddling. ball players have jumped over them. Again the parents do nothing. it takes another person like the principle, other teachers and fans. to grab them from being trampled and hand them back to their parents. This also happens at school concerts and programs. on all the programs in both English and Spanish it states the all children must remain seated during the game unless with an adult, no running. My kids wait for time out to head to the bathroom or concession stand.

Is this normal for the Mexican culture? Not sure if I should say Hispanic because they refer to themselves as Mexican.
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It's first communion and your complaining about babies? Get over it! It's a day where families come together and celebrate. Im sure you could of attended another mass.
No we could not attend another mass because there wasn't one. I'm all for celebrating, but dancing around the altar, almost knocking down a candle stand. It was my sons communion also.
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Where was the racism? There were no derogatory remarks, no put downs, no ill names. It was a question on culture.
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Maybe I need to add that these families are rather new here. A Hispanic mom who has been here for at least 15yrs gets on these new ones and tells them that you have to watch them and that you cant leave them (1yr and under) home while you go 10 miles to pick up your older kid. tells them that this is not Mexico. and that they need to be more American.

So that is why I asked, I wondered if it was normal for Mexican families to do this.
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