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Old 04-27-2013, 05:26 PM   #16
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I would let them plan their own vacation. You can let them know when you're going and where you're staying and even how much it will cost. If they want to come they will. IMO you have to be self motivated to spend a lot of a vacation. By getting involved in their plans if its not everything they hoped for guess who they will blame? And if you end up sacrificing what you really want and they cancel at the last minute guess who you will blame?
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Old 04-27-2013, 05:44 PM   #17
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I agree with the posters that say this is a recipe for disaster. The odds are they won't appreciate it, won't enjoy Disney like you and will resent you for the money they spend. And you will feel guilty when they don't enjoy it. Been there done that.
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Old 04-27-2013, 05:54 PM   #18
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Do your friends WANT to go? That would be the first thing I would verify first.


We went with friends once and it could have been a disaster. The wife wasn't really keen on the consumerism of Disney and literally had a hard time with it. The husband was dying to go. We were not pushy and just enjoyed things at a slow pace and ended up having the best vacation.

It helped that we showed her babysitting services!
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Old 04-27-2013, 07:24 PM   #19
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Such great advice everyone. This couple and their 2 kids say they really want to go. It is my dil's sister and mom. I have broke it down on everything and I honestly hope they won't go if they want to go off site or downsize the trip. We figured that part of the time would be at the pool and since there is no pool hopping, it would just mess things up and we would feel guilty.

I know it probably sounds like alot of money (and it is), but I save for 5 years to do this and it is the best time for our family. I scrimp and save and it is fun for me to do this. I think they have difficulty with saving and use their extra money for things that don't interest me.

I think I will just keep our plans and if they are on board, great. But I will not make reservations for them. Mostly because I would not want to add stress to their finances and like someone said, if they did not enjoy it I would feel terrible.
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Old 04-27-2013, 08:01 PM   #20
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If the price for 2013 is already shocking them.....wait till 2015
Sorry But those that have no idea and "dont get it" never will

Id say plan your own vacation and let them decide it all on their own................ to avoid ...drama.....loss of a friendship and or aggravation for your own vacation,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Old 04-27-2013, 08:01 PM   #21
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Also I think the amount of time you are suggesting they save for it maybe throwing them off.
I don't have endless supplies of vacation funds either but I know it would be hard for me to wrap my head around a vacation that I have to wait 2 years for.

Even with disney, dh and I would think, uhm in two years the kids may not even be interested in disney.

Good luck, the great thing is that 2 years is far enough in advance where you can make tentative plans, tell them about them and it not really effect you if they change their minds.
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Old 04-27-2013, 08:25 PM   #22
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IMHO, I would cabash the idea considering their reaction. Give in once, and by the time you're packing, it'll be their vacation with you going along
Yup I agree. I'd squash these plans. Not sure id wanna vacation with them after that reaction.
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Old 04-28-2013, 05:45 AM   #23
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We bought into Disney DVC in 2004 and have never looked back. We also have a motor coach and stay at the fort. We feel the fort is much more expensive then the resorts with us bring our $65,000.00 rig and paying Disney an average of $100,00 per night to park it.

But we would not and will not give it up as life is short and we work hard to afford what we have and do. Only go this way once and to your friend, Disney is like no other vacation.
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:44 AM   #24
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I honestly hope they won't go if they want to go off site or downsize the trip.

I think they have difficulty with saving and use their extra money for things that don't interest me.
I think you've hit on a couple things there. No two families like to travel exactly the same way, even to the same destination. Shoot, just read a few threads on this board and you'll see tons of folks who struggle to get their own spouses and kids to agree on how to do their trip or even where to go. I know for us, we'd rather do two budget trips than one "all out" trip that required two years of saving.

The second sentence just backs this up IMO. Different strokes.
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Old 04-28-2013, 08:15 AM   #25
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Personally, I don't think a WDW vacation is any more expensive than my other vacations I do (Isle Mujeres/Cancun/Universal/cruises)...of course, we almost always stay at a value during free dining and we spend no money on souveniers and stuff like that This year, we are headed to Universal for HHN for six nights, airfare for six was $1200, Floridays condo (3B/3B) is $153 per night, and park tickets for 14 days UO/W&W/and one night of HHN are $220 each. We'll stock the fridge for breakfast and snacks. So $620 pp plus lunch and dinner. Not bad for six nights
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Old 04-28-2013, 08:38 AM   #26
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Personally, I don't think a WDW vacation is any more expensive than my other vacations I do (Isle Mujeres/Cancun/Universal/cruises)...of course, we almost always stay at a value during free dining and we spend no money on souveniers and stuff like that This year, we are headed to Universal for HHN for six nights, airfare for six was $1200, Floridays condo (3B/3B) is $153 per night, and park tickets for 14 days UO/W&W/and one night of HHN are $220 each. We'll stock the fridge for breakfast and snacks. So $620 pp plus lunch and dinner. Not bad for six nights
I agree that *my* Disney vacations are often the same as, or cheaper than a week at the beach. However, I do not stay in deluxes so that makes a difference.

I can rent a condo at the beach and it runs me about $3,000 per week, if not more, for the quality of what I get in and around Disney. I then add in my dining out in that area which is also expensive. But, I can drive there so that saves me.

Our Disney trips involve either staying at the Shades of Green, which is VERY reasonable, or lately, getting an offsite house which has been a godsend with teenagers (and they want to always bring a friend!). Very, very inexpensive.

Because my husband is retired military, we usually get a great deal on 5 day park hoppers. Then food is food, no matter where you travel. We also don't do souveniers, nor are we having lots of snacks.

Getting to WDW is most often my big expense. Last year was the first year I drove and that did save me quite a bit. Not sure I want to do that again though.

All in all, it is the same or even a tad bit cheaper than some other vacations, but I go high on the hog on those other vacations. Other people just do things like weekend trips, or camping, so Disney can be very expensive to them.
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Personally, I don't think a WDW vacation is any more expensive than my other vacations I do (Isle Mujeres/Cancun/Universal/cruises)...of course, we almost always stay at a value during free dining and we spend no money on souveniers and stuff like that This year, we are headed to Universal for HHN for six nights, airfare for six was $1200, Floridays condo (3B/3B) is $153 per night, and park tickets for 14 days UO/W&W/and one night of HHN are $220 each. We'll stock the fridge for breakfast and snacks. So $620 pp plus lunch and dinner. Not bad for six nights
I think it depends. sure a Disney vacation can be done cheaply but my family and I went to FRANCE, for what we spend at Disney.

So yeah a Disney vacation can be costly. It depends on how you travel.

See that's the problem sure I can go rock bottom but I would be miserable. I hate the values, I'm not lugging snacks, water and lunch to the parks and we love to eat a big breakfast.

I listen to some suggestions on the budget board and truthfully I'd rather stay home if I had to do some of the things people do to get to Disney. NOT saying it's wrong just that in my world "cheaply" does not always equal a good vacation.

I'm going to London/Paris this may, the trip is running us about 1700 per person which if I didn't have my dvc is what I would have spent on Disney and my hotel is 2000% better and my food is almost guaranteed to be better! well at least in Paris it will be. LOL.

So personally I don't think people compare their Disney vacations equally.

You go to the beach and stay at a 3 bedroom condo. try paying for that at Disney.

Many people go to Disney and have to wait for free dining. Try paying opp for your food like you do at the beach. see how quickly the price ramps up at the world. Many people do all those neat tricks like sharing meals, only eating counter service etc etc.

Why do they do it? simply because Disney is outrageously expensive and probably out of their budget if they did not.

So if you compare do it equally.
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Maybe you could offer to help them plan their trip within their budget? That would probably be best. I have a hard time spending a lot on accommodations, since we tend to spend very little time there. We stay offsite, where we have our own bedrooms and bathrooms and a private pool to relax in for the price of a value. I know people who balk at what we pay for Disney. They chose to ride buses for 45 minutes to avoid paying for parking, which I think is crazy, and stayed in a roach motel. Time is money to me and you can't put a price on that first hour in the parks, and I do want to sleep in comfort at night.
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I think it depends. sure a Disney vacation can be done cheaply but my family and I went to FRANCE, for what we spend at Disney.

So yeah a Disney vacation can be costly. It depends on how you travel.

[b]See that's the problem sure I can go rock bottom but I would be miserable. I hate the values, I'm not lugging snacks, water and lunch to the parks and we love to eat a big breakfast.

I listen to some suggestions on the budget board and truthfully I'd rather stay home if I had to do some of the things people do to get to Disney. NOT saying it's wrong just that in my world "cheaply" does not always equal a good vacation.[\b]

I'm going to London/Paris this may, the trip is running us about 1700 per person which if I didn't have my dvc is what I would have spent on Disney and my hotel is 2000% better and my food is almost guaranteed to be better! well at least in Paris it will be. LOL.

So personally I don't think people compare their Disney vacations equally.

You go to the beach and stay at a 3 bedroom condo. try paying for that at Disney.

Many people go to Disney and have to wait for free dining. Try paying opp for your food like you do at the beach. see how quickly the price ramps up at the world. Many people do all those neat tricks like sharing meals, only eating counter service etc etc.

Why do they do it? simply because Disney is outrageously expensive and probably out of their budget if they did not.

So if you compare do it equally.
You make a lot of great points, but I did want to address the idea of "rather stay home than do it on the cheap". While I understand the sentiment, I also think that's usually the kind or statement that comes from someone who has the means to travel more luxuriously. When you're actually faced with the possibility of perhaps having to stay home instead of vacation, it really changes your priorities
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I'm planning a four day trip to Branson Missouri and its going to be close to what a Disney trip is! Maybe they don't vacation at all? Seriously...hotel room, a show ever day, mini golf, go-carts, wax museum... it all adds up. Disney is expensive, but vacationing, in general, is expensive! Part of it is just that people tend to stay longer at Disney!
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