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Old 04-25-2013, 04:25 PM   #16
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Old 04-25-2013, 04:41 PM   #17
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A textile factory in Savar, Bangladesh collapsed, killing over 200 people.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...ladesh-factory

Will this travesty make you consider changing your shopping habits and buy clothes from a country with work safety regulations (US, Canada, Europe...), or at least clothes that you can verify were made in decent conditions?
I already do. I hate stuff made in China and India. So I an an avid label reader.
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Old 04-25-2013, 05:00 PM   #18
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After taking a human geography studies course that focused on this topic, while the factories often are dangerous and workers have long hours, it provides jobs to those that otherwise would have none and just be farming enough to feed their family. While better regulations would be a good thing for human rights of the workers, companies would just outsource to another cheaper country.
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Old 04-25-2013, 05:02 PM   #19
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It is very sad, but I can't afford to be picky about my clothes.
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Old 04-25-2013, 07:53 PM   #20
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It's pretty hard to know the conditions where things are made. Many designer brands are largely assembled in sweatshops in third world countries and shipped to Europe for some minute amount of finishing that allows them to say the item was made there.
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Old 04-25-2013, 08:05 PM   #21
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I don't think it is any secret that buying clothes at Walmart supports this type of sweatshop. My habits won't change because I stopped buying from sweatshops years ago. It is actually not hard to find out where things are made. It's a choice to support and buy things made in our country. It's not a lot more expensive.


I guess after reading this thread I can make a new t shirt. " unemployed, it sure beats dead" because being unemployed IS by far preferable to being squished and tortured in a sweatshop. Until people start caring, nothing will change. Please, they wouldn't have jobs otherwise? That is a sad justification. If that is how you think you are helping people, please don't do me any favors. I'd rather take my chances with no job, thanks.That is just what some people tell themselves to absolve their own guilt.

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Old 04-25-2013, 08:11 PM   #22
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Every dollar I spend is a vote for something. If I can make an informed choice I do. I think the argument that these people won't have jobs is a weak one. We could have said the same thing about slavery back in the day "Oh where will they go?.. what will they do?.. they won't be able to feed themselves". Then we argue out of the other side of our mouths about how terrible our economy is and how foreigners providing cheap labor are the culprit and a myriad of other outsourcing complaints.

My basic assertion is vote with your dollar or you have no right to complain.
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Old 04-26-2013, 12:01 AM   #23
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Even if there were a worldwide movement to stop buying the clothes, I'm not sure what good it would do. How would being unemployed help these people?

I can see that the world community needs to approach this, but it's a human rights issue, not a consumer issue.

It's not about not buying from Bangladesh, it's about them-- or somebody-- demanding proper working conditions for the people there.
You are right it is a human rights issue. What does it say about us when we spend our money in support of sweatshop owners?

Many brands and retailers require their contractors or manufacturers be inspected or certified as not using sweat shop practices and not exploiting child labor. It ain't perfect, but it's a start.

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It's pretty hard to know the conditions where things are made. Many designer brands are largely assembled in sweatshops in third world countries and shipped to Europe for some minute amount of finishing that allows them to say the item was made there.
Our laws require that each country of manufacture be listed on the label.
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Old 04-26-2013, 05:15 AM   #24
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There are so many Human Rights groups that do magnificent work--here's a list of a few:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._organisations
(Sorry, it's Wikipedia, but I've got to get moving.)

I would think that working with them would probably be a more effective approach than posting on a Disney message board.

For what it's worth, the vast majority of the clothes I buy are American made. (And the ONLY thing I buy in Walmart is Halloween Candy-- I HATE that place!!)

What happened in that factory is horrible, and my prayers go out to the victims and their families. I'm just not sure that the approach taken by the OP is the one most likely to effect change.
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Old 04-26-2013, 05:20 AM   #25
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No it won't but I can say I do purchase a lot of clothing from American Apparel either directly or from companies that print on their blanks. They are the most comfortable shirts I own and I believe all of their clothing is manufactured in the United States.
I did not know that about American Apparel. Thanks

DD16 has a lot of shirts from Redbubble.com I noticed doing laundry today that they all have American Apparel tags and I know that the art on them comes from independent artists. It makes me want to give them more business
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Old 04-27-2013, 10:48 AM   #26
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The death toll is now over 350. So sad.

I remember when I was young, there was a backlash against Kathy Lee when it was revealed her clothing line used sweat shop labor. Things have really changed since then. I also don't think the argument that they wouldn't have jobs otherwise is a good argument. We are talking about people making less than $40 a month and working in hazardous conditions. There's no justification for that in my opinion.
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Every dollar I spend is a vote for something. If I can make an informed choice I do. I think the argument that these people won't have jobs is a weak one. We could have said the same thing about slavery back in the day "Oh where will they go?.. what will they do?.. they won't be able to feed themselves". Then we argue out of the other side of our mouths about how terrible our economy is and how foreigners providing cheap labor are the culprit and a myriad of other outsourcing complaints.

My basic assertion is vote with your dollar or you have no right to complain.
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Old 04-27-2013, 11:11 AM   #28
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I'm not a big shopper anyway (prefer to spend my $$$ on experiences) so since I shop so little, I try to do research first. The other day, I was thinking that I needed some new polos so I googled American made polo shirts and several places came up. Yes, it would be easier to just pop over to Walmart or target, but I prefer to do it this way. I can't always get everything American made, but I try real hard. In the big picture, it doesn't make a difference but I always think of the story about the little boy throwing the star fish back in the ocean. It might not make much difference on my few polos, but it matters to the person making the polo.
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I'm not a big shopper anyway (prefer to spend my $$$ on experiences) so since I shop so little, I try to do research first. The other day, I was thinking that I needed some new polos so I googled American made polo shirts and several places came up. Yes, it would be easier to just pop over to Walmart or target, but I prefer to do it this way. I can't always get everything American made, but I try real hard. In the big picture, it doesn't make a difference but I always think of the story about the little boy throwing the star fish back in the ocean. It might not make much difference on my few polos, but it matters to the person making the polo.


I do think it makes a difference.

Why do you think our manufacturing industry left. Manufacturers figured out, they can make stuff cheaper and still sell it at a ridiculous markup thereby increasing their bottom line and we didn't care as long as we could get a tee shirt for 99cent.

we got exactly what we sow. cheap junk and no jobs.
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