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Old 04-24-2013, 11:07 PM   #16
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Don't really understand why you would bother to stand in line at Guest Service to have the tips taken off your account so you "can pay them yourselves". you still hand out tip envelopes to the staff when the tips are charged to your account. If you want to give more you can just add cash to envelopes. Why stand in a line you don't need to!!

I love the new method....we get the tip vouchers and envelopes delivered to our room, put the vouchers in the envelope and add as much cash as we want above and beyond. We then personally hand out the envelopes to the staff. Easy peasy!! Just because they automatically charge them to your account doesn't mean you don't still hand out the tips to the staff personally.

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Old 04-24-2013, 11:42 PM   #17
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then wouldn't it be easier to just apply the cash to your on board account instead of taking it off and putting the cash in envelopes? just curious because I have heard several people say they do this and I just can't understand how it is better. seems to me it would take longer to have guest services remove them than it would to have guest services apply a credit. if you want to add extra to the envelope its easily done.
I look at it this way, cruise lines want you to pay tips so employees get 'paid'. either we do it this way or they up the cost of a cruise and you pay it anyways. some of the lines are already doing that. i'm sure the cruise line knows who leaves tips and who doesn't. you can say I paid in cash but the person would know if they got a tip from you or not and i'm sure its probably reported and recorded somewhere.
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:51 PM   #18
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I am a person that tips well for things done for me. What I do not like is all cruise lines have turned it into the pay for the people. If we do not give them these tips they do not make any money.
Anywhere that a tip is expected does this. Have you ever worked a tipped job? I have many friends who are waitresses who say it is almost impossible to prove their tips didn't equal minimum wage because their boss claims the pocketed money with out reporting it.

Also some places (Starbucks I know I worked there) report their tips and take out the tax for them. However Starbucks just does a standard .50 an hour. Well for weeks I made less than .50 an hour in tips there was no way for me to get that back from the company.

If they weren't charging tip they would just add it to the cost of the cruise an inform you tipping is not necessary as it is included in the price but that you may tip above and beyond I you so choose.
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Old 04-25-2013, 04:31 AM   #19
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I was just reviewing my cruise documents and included in this packet is an option to prepay the tips a certain number of days before the cruise. It also gives the option to do nothing and have them added to your KTTW bill 3 days before the end of your cruise and also to go to guest services at any time to pay or adjust.

It appears the default is still to have them charged after sailing, but perhaps so many people were wanting to prepay they made it an option? I know the last night of my last 7 day cruise the GS lines were really really long, and most of it was tip adjustments.

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Old 04-25-2013, 05:28 AM   #20
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We almost always settle our on board account in cash. I earmark OBC for tips first. When I get the tip envelopes, we usually add cash to them, and then go to GS to put cash on our account for our expenses anyways. There's no way I'd remove the tips just to put all cash in the envelopes (especially since OBC covers our tips).

So answer a PP's question, yes, it's easier to just add cash to your account.

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then wouldn't it be easier to just apply the cash to your on board account instead of taking it off and putting the cash in envelopes? just curious because I have heard several people say they do this and I just can't understand how it is better. seems to me it would take longer to have guest services remove them than it would to have guest services apply a credit. if you want to add extra to the envelope its easily done.
I look at it this way, cruise lines want you to pay tips so employees get 'paid'. either we do it this way or they up the cost of a cruise and you pay it anyways. some of the lines are already doing that. i'm sure the cruise line knows who leaves tips and who doesn't. you can say I paid in cash but the person would know if they got a tip from you or not and i'm sure its probably reported and recorded somewhere.
NOT looking for a debate or to get flamed, just sayin......
Not saying what would be easier or harder, just stating that maybe that particular poster may want to give the CMs actual cash in hand. People used to do it all the time so I am sure there are still some who want this option.
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Do you really think that was was a "helpful" response?

I don't like this tipping program either. Just got off the Dream today. Late last night I realize that I had double tipped everyone because I was not clear that the tips were added to my bill. The couple we were dining with pointed out the change. I then had to do get in line with 30 other people at guest services to have them remove the tipping charges. I, like others here, enjoy passing out the tips in cash to each person. The new program is very confusing to many people (30 people in line to fix it at guest services). I don't have a problem having it on my bill and see that it benefits the employees as sadly, there are many people that don't tip. I just think they need to clarify the changes on the tip envelopes themselves.
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Do you really think that was was a "helpful" response?
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Considering the fact that poster had a problem with tipping, NOT with the "change", I sure do. I feel that if you don't want to tip, then cruising may not be for you.

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Considering the fact that poster had a problem with tipping, NOT with the "change", I sure do. I feel that if you don't want to tip, then cruising may not be for you.

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When we were there last March, we asked our stateroom hostess if she had any preference on how she get her tips (cash, or charge) She said she prefers cash, because she gets it right away. It takes few days to process the charged tips. So we reversed the room charge and gave her the cash, she was really, really appreciative.
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