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Old 04-17-2013, 08:40 AM   #16
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Not to the point where the guest can see it, you might see more K9 officers around. They've had random appearances by K9 officers for a long time. They already do a bag check in the parks, and this is the reason why they do it. Unless it's something they can fit into a pocket, it's got to go through the bag check. I don't know much about bombs but there don't seem to be many that can fit into a pocket. And no, I do not think at this time that WDW is going to require all park guests to go through a metal detector.

I know it's required to go through a metal detector if you go to the Halloween Horror Nights at Universal. I don't think it's required for a regular day in their parks. I'm also pretty sure they want to prevent guests from carrying knives at Halloween Horror Night. I don't know what happens if they find someone with a knife. WDW doesn't seem to have the same concern about knives, but HHN is an event carried out mostly in the dark that has a big draw among local teens.
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Old 04-17-2013, 08:49 AM   #17
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I live in Boston. The coverage has been 24/7 and it's the most horrific thing most any of us have ever witnessed unless you have been a soldier in active duty. I have friends who were at the finish line who witnessed the most horrendous sights... that isn't hype. With all the coverage most stations had terror experts on and they specifically mentioned major theme parks as being a perfect target. I'm sure Disney is aware of this and even if unnoticed they are at a heightened security. We are leaving for Orlando bright and early tomorrow. Getting through Logan airport will take more time than normal. Boston is such a small city, sadly it seems like everyone knows someone who was affected. We will not allow terror to stop us from living life, but here in Boston there is a great sense of sadness and anger. Needing some Disney magic now more than ever!
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:19 AM   #18
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One advantage of opening the turnstiles early and holding rope drop at Magic Kingdom's ice cream parlor and barber shop (similar or ropeless drop well inside Epcot, Hollywood Studios, Animal Kingdom) is so that bag checking and negotiating the turnstiles can start sooner.
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:29 AM   #19
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Its always surprised me that Disney doesn't have more security. I would think it would be a high priority target for the crazy mass murders out there.

Disney has A LOT of security - you just don't really see it. What you see at the gate is more of a "facade" to give guests that sense of security. You cannot pick your nose (or seat) in Disney without their security knowing about it. Many of their security team members are plain clothes men and women that blend in the rest of the park. They have cameras everywhere.... in places you would not recognize. This is not limited to the parks; the security is everywhere on their property.
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:34 AM   #20
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Disney has A LOT of security - you just don't really see it. What you see at the gate is more of a "facade" to give guests that sense of security. You cannot pick your nose (or seat) in Disney without their security knowing about it. Many of their security team members are plain clothes men and women that blend in the rest of the park. They have cameras everywhere.... in places you would not recognize. This is not limited to the parks; the security is everywhere on their property.
Underlined part was mine.

If this is the case, then why does nothing happen when things like strollers get stolen? Obviously if there are cameras everywhere, surely they can know who is doing what, right?

I have no doubt there is a lot of unseen security at Disney, I'm just shocked it's as good as you're all saying it is. Because a lot of stuff gets stolen at Disney with zero consequence.
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:52 AM   #21
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Underlined part was mine.

If this is the case, then why does nothing happen when things like strollers get stolen? Obviously if there are cameras everywhere, surely they can know who is doing what, right?

I have no doubt there is a lot of unseen security at Disney, I'm just shocked it's as good as you're all saying it is. Because a lot of stuff gets stolen at Disney with zero consequence.
Because its not like a guy with a burglar mask tip toes around the park, looks around to see if he or she is being watched and then swipes it.



Based on the number of strollers that I hear Disney disposes of each year, I think most strollers are not truly stolen.

They are either moved by a CM and the owner doesn't know to look in the area they should have parked it. Someone mistakes a stroller for theirs or someone thinks they are just going to "borrow it" (yes this is stealing) and leaves it somewhere else. But there is not a ring of stroller thieves.

In any of the above scenarios all the security guy would see is someone walking up to a stroller and pushing it away like they owned it.

Oh and don't forget the 4 legged thieves, the squirrels taking stuff.
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:55 AM   #22
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Underlined part was mine.

If this is the case, then why does nothing happen when things like strollers get stolen? Obviously if there are cameras everywhere, surely they can know who is doing what, right?

I have no doubt there is a lot of unseen security at Disney, I'm just shocked it's as good as you're all saying it is. Because a lot of stuff gets stolen at Disney with zero consequence.

I don't have a direct answer because I do not know the ins and outs of security, but I do not think stolen strollers are where their focus is. When somebody walks over and takes a stroller, security who may be watching has no idea who that really belongs to. They may have it on camera, but for the time it takes to research, I don't think they really want to spend the time or effort looking for who took it.....and how would they track that person after the fact?

What I understand is that they are looking out for the safety of their guests, making sure children are not abducted, people are not assaulted, etc.
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:55 AM   #23
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If this is the case, then why does nothing happen when things like strollers get stolen? Obviously if there are cameras everywhere, surely they can know who is doing what, right?
Let me ask you something. When you see someone taking a stroller dont you just "assume" the person(s) are the owners? If security stopped everyone they saw taking a stroller (and may I remind you we are talking hundreds if not thousands) only to find out they are indeed the owners what do you think would happen? waisted time when security could be needed elsewhere.
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Because they aren't looking for stroller thieves. They aren't going to know who parked the stroller in a stroller parking area and/or who the person is picking it up. If they think the stroller pusher is acting suspiciously they might watch them closely.
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Old 04-17-2013, 12:41 PM   #25
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I was shopping at one of the stores in AL at MK. There was a guy next to me, who appeared to be shopping as well. Apparently he had maybe placed something in his pocket or under his shirt. OUT OF NOWHERE came three members of security and the guy was quietly and quickly "disappeared".

My point being, as others have stated, that there is security everywhere in the parks. We just don't notice them. Cameras as well. My guide on the KTTK tour said as much. He even pointed one of the cameras out to us in FL.
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Disney has A LOT of security - you just don't really see it. You cannot pick your nose (or seat) in Disney without their security knowing about it.
Uh oh ...and I thought I was being pretty clever, now you got me worried
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I live in Boston. The coverage has been 24/7 and it's the most horrific thing most any of us have ever witnessed unless you have been a soldier in active duty. I have friends who were at the finish line who witnessed the most horrendous sights... that isn't hype. With all the coverage most stations had terror experts on and they specifically mentioned major theme parks as being a perfect target. I'm sure Disney is aware of this and even if unnoticed they are at a heightened security. We are leaving for Orlando bright and early tomorrow. Getting through Logan airport will take more time than normal. Boston is such a small city, sadly it seems like everyone knows someone who was affected. We will not allow terror to stop us from living life, but here in Boston there is a great sense of sadness and anger. Needing some Disney magic now more than ever!
I dropped my sister and her family off at Logan this morning around 940am for a noon flight to Tampa. She went with her in-laws so there was a total of 9 people. She was able to get through security within a half hour of being dropped off.

I don't know what time you are flying but it might not be as bad as you think.
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Don't forget about all of the other CM's in the park. They might not be "security," but they are watching you...
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I think there may well be heightened security of the type we don't notice, as others have mentioned. Watching out for suspicious behavior, etc.

However, the existing bag check they've been doing for years, I think, would have prevented the type of bomb used in Boston. I can't imagine someone getting through that bag check with a bunch of nails, ball bearings, a pressure cooker, and some kind of explosive material. I don't think the amount of nails, ball bearings, etc. used in those bombs would fit in anyone's pocket. Even the most cursory glance inside a backpack would have caught this. But I'd imagine security guards are probably being a little extra diligent in those bag checks the last couple of days.

I feel pretty safe at WDW from that type of weapon.
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If you noticed an increase in security they wouldn't be doing their job right.
Agree. The increase in security wants to not be noticed. No need to panic people with a bunch of uniformed guards walking around.
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