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Old 04-18-2013, 03:10 PM   #31
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Inexplicably, Space Mt. and Soarin are closed again today...........after being open at the beginning of the day and experiencing rather mild (even for this time of year) wait times.

I agree with my colleague in this post that the Matterhorn is the real draw at Disney CA - since no other ride like it exists in FL (I don't count Expedition Everest as comparable).

I have spoken to Disney this week and right now the ONLY reason Matterhorn is open (was originally scheduled for maintenance this week and next week - April) is due to the Space Mt. drama with OSHA. There was a few days where Space, Matterhorn, and Big Thunder were ALL closed simultaneously. This was met with some long and loud complaints from visitors who cried out "where's the coasters?" and the like.

Now the word of mouth is that once Space reopens, Matterhorn will close (expected in May) for the best part of 2 weeks to resume its maintenance.

We shall see.
I don't understand how the rides can be opened then closed. Are the safety requirements met or not? Who is saying, "Let's just open it for a few hours?" If it can be open for a few hours then why not for the whole day? If it can't be open for a whole day then how can it be open for a few hours? Very strange...
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Old 04-18-2013, 03:48 PM   #32
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I don't understand how the rides can be opened then closed. Are the safety requirements met or not? Who is saying, "Let's just open it for a few hours?" If it can be open for a few hours then why not for the whole day? If it can't be open for a whole day then how can it be open for a few hours? Very strange...
Are thurs Magic morning hours at DL? Because that would be pretty messed up that they just open it for the morning because the other day was the same thing. It was open for like an hour and then closed.

This really sucks. When I had planned this visit I worked around all the refurbishments (espeically matterhorn) and the way things are looking, it may be refurbed when we are there in May
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Old 04-18-2013, 03:49 PM   #33
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I don't understand how the rides can be opened then closed. Are the safety requirements met or not? Who is saying, "Let's just open it for a few hours?" If it can be open for a few hours then why not for the whole day? If it can't be open for a whole day then how can it be open for a few hours? Very strange...
Well to start with, Disney closed the ride of their own accord from all that I've read, so they aren't FORCED to leave them closed. But it is strange that they would open it for a few hours.

Maybe they got so many complaints that they opened so a few people could ride and be happy. Seems like it was open in the morning, which from my experience is when "Newbies" to the park go. A lot of vets I know don't go until a little later in the day. Could be another reason. I don't know. Everything is just theories until Disney makes a statement if they even do.
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Old 04-18-2013, 03:51 PM   #34
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Are thurs Magic morning hours at DL? Because that would be pretty messed up that they just open it for the morning because the other day was the same thing. It was open for like an hour and then closed.

This really sucks. When I had planned this visit I worked around all the refurbishments (espeically matterhorn) and the way things are looking, it may be refurbed when we are there in May
According to Lines, yes, they had EE today. Maybe it's a coincidence that both times people have said it is open have been on EE days but if not then yes, that is not right.
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Old 04-18-2013, 04:10 PM   #35
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As of Thursday 10:30 AM PST, Soarin and Space Mt. have reopened!

Just curious... are you in the parks today?
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Old 04-18-2013, 04:17 PM   #36
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According to Lines, yes, they had EE today. Maybe it's a coincidence that both times people have said it is open have been on EE days but if not then yes, that is not right.
Maybe they're trying to avoid complaints from on-property guests who will likely use EE while also avoiding greater scrutiny by Cal/OSHA, which might occur if they reopen the rides full-time before the state reviews the refurb work?

Though if either of the rides is open during EE, that means nightly maintenance is being done--and that would mean the work the state demanded has already been completed.
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Or it could just be that "Lines" everyday reports SM being open every morning until a staff member reports it closed since there is no definitive date posted. Let's see if tomorrow lines reports it open at park opening
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We can speculate until the cows come home but until Disney gives official word then nothing is for certain. At this point it looks as though both rides should be back up on April 25th according to their official park hours calendar.

I can understand why lines would be short though when they were opened for a short time, since most people would think the rides are closed.
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I echo a PP who asked what exactly is the closure for if they are opening and closing randomly?
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Old 04-18-2013, 05:49 PM   #40
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Addtional ride closures on the way :(

Apparently Disney is bracing themselves for another round of OSHA communications. This afternoon, Disney has closed California Screamin' and Goofy's Sky School at the California Adventure Park AND Indiana Jones and the Columbia Ship as well as the Davy Crockett canoes (OSHA may have found a leak in one of them) in the Disneyland Park.

Something strange is happening today indeed. I am hoping these closures are just for a few hours as Disney may just be taking some precautions. Supposedly (alleged but unverified) Disney is meeting with OSHA next week - which will set the timeframe for the number and length of closures going forward.
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Apparently Disney is bracing themselves for another round of OSHA communications. This afternoon, Disney has closed California Screamin' and Goofy's Sky School at the California Adventure Park AND Indiana Jones and the Columbia Ship as well as the Davy Crockett canoes (OSHA may have found a leak in one of them) in the Disneyland Park.

Something strange is happening today indeed. I am hoping these closures are just for a few hours as Disney may just be taking some precautions. Supposedly (alleged but unverified) Disney is meeting with OSHA next week - which will set the timeframe for the number and length of closures going forward.
Are you there? How do you know all this? Is this just rumours, verified from CMs? Just wondering as it seems no one knows officially what is happening so curious of your source.
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Maybe they're trying to avoid complaints from on-property guests who will likely use EE while also avoiding greater scrutiny by Cal/OSHA, which might occur if they reopen the rides full-time before the state reviews the refurb work?

Though if either of the rides is open during EE, that means nightly maintenance is being done--and that would mean the work the state demanded has already been completed.
I was thinking similarly - they are opening it up just for the on-property guests and then closing it for the regular patrons. If OSHA didn't really specify that the ride had to close immediately, I can see how they could open, make some onsite guests happy, close again and continue to get the necessary work finished before the inspection. I must admit, though, it is odd...
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I agree with my colleague in this post that the Matterhorn is the real draw at Disney CA - since no other ride like it exists in FL (I don't count Expedition Everest as comparable).
This is exactly how I am thinking. I already said to my DH that I could deal with some of these closures because we can ride them when we are at WDW (even though I know that Space Mountain is a bit different), however I would cry if Matterhorn was down while we are there. That is the one ride I am most looking forward to riding just because it is the only one like it and won't be recreated at WDW.
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Apparently Disney is bracing themselves for another round of OSHA communications. This afternoon, Disney has closed California Screamin' and Goofy's Sky School at the California Adventure Park AND Indiana Jones and the Columbia Ship as well as the Davy Crockett canoes (OSHA may have found a leak in one of them) in the Disneyland Park.

Something strange is happening today indeed. I am hoping these closures are just for a few hours as Disney may just be taking some precautions. Supposedly (alleged but unverified) Disney is meeting with OSHA next week - which will set the timeframe for the number and length of closures going forward.
Why would OSHA have anything to do with how long things are closed and what is closed?
OSHA didn't force the shut downs. It was Disney's choice to close the rides to do their own safety checks and do the necessary fixes. So yes, OSHA will be coming by to make sure the fixes are in place, and MAYBE bring up some other undocumented concerns(just a theory), but ultimately DISNEY will decide what closes and when and for how long.

And I just checked and according to Mousewait, Indy and the canoes are open and that was posted like 3 minutes before I checked. But then again, I'm not physically there to check.
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Why would OSHA have anything to do with how long things are closed and what is closed?
OSHA didn't force the shut downs. It was Disney's choice to close the rides to do their own safety checks and do the necessary fixes.
O.K. this makes much more sense.
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