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Old 05-01-2013, 07:43 PM   #2251
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Do you mean that you don't agree with my opinions on what should be done with this innocent child or that we are all entitled to our own opinions on the subject matter? I really did not mean to cause such a raucous and I am not sure why all the outrage. Just because I strongly feel this child would be better off being completely removed from all of this does not make me an Ogar despite what a few people on here seem to think or to have so many question my parenting skills. It is just in my opinion in order for this sweet little girl to have a normal life she should be exposed to as little as possible to the evils of her father even if that means placing her with a family who could shield her from all of this and keep her identity a secret for a short time or permanently.
OK we understand your opinion. Can we move on now - this is a long running, informational thread most of us would like to keep open. You could always start another thread to discuss the merits of what you're suggesting.
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Old 05-01-2013, 07:50 PM   #2252
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No, and I don't see anyone else that agrees either. I feel it is outrageous to take a child away from the only family she has ever known. Her mother may be innocent and her grandparents, as far as we know, did nothing wrong. I don't think you would hand overdue child if she was yours.
I put my children and their needs first and if I had to place my child with someone else until this madness was over I would absolutely put my own needs behind what I felt was best for them. I am sorry if you can't understand that or feel the same way.

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I don't think many of us can understand how you could possibly want this little girl to not only lose her father (who sounds like he was the primary care giver), but then her mother, too, if the mother is not guilty. And even if she is, I would think the best solution would be for the girl to go to her grandparents. This poor little girl needs as much stability and familiarity as she can get right now.
Lots of children are taken away from their parents because of their inability to properly take care of them and I am sure those children love their parents dearly despite the situation. If we looked at it that way many kids would be left in unsafe neglectful homes. If her father was the primary care giver I would be curious to know what kind of neglect or abuse she was exposed to because I honestly can't see how a man who did the things he has could be kind, loving or attentive to anyone even his own child. I never said the parents would not be good care givers but the fact that the the news media has ascended on them like vultures and ave posted many pictures of them, their other daughter, and their granddaughter so they are easily recognizable right now. maybe the little girl could live with other family members until things calm down. If the mother did have any knowledge of this or helped in anyway then she should absolutely lose all rights to her child.
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Old 05-01-2013, 07:56 PM   #2253
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Do you mean that you don't agree with my opinions on what should be done with this innocent child or that we are all entitled to our own opinions on the subject matter? I really did not mean to cause such a raucous and I am not sure why all the outrage. Just because I strongly feel this child would be better off being completely removed from all of this does not make me an Ogar despite what a few people on here seem to think or to have so many question my parenting skills. It is just in my opinion in order for this sweet little girl to have a normal life she should be exposed to as little as possible to the evils of her father even if that means placing her with a family who could shield her from all of this and keep her identity a secret for a short time or permanently.
Lee Harvey Oswald's kids stayed with Marina and did just fine.

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Old 05-01-2013, 08:02 PM   #2254
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Lee Harvey Oswald's kids stayed with Marina and did just fine.

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Yes but that was long before the internet, social media, and 24 hour news.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:05 PM   #2255
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I put my children and their needs first and if I had to place my child with someone else until this madness was over I would absolutely put my own needs behind what I felt was best for them. I am sorry if you can't understand that or feel the same way.

Lots of children are taken away from their parents because of their inability to properly take care of them and I am sure those children love their parents dearly despite the situation. If we looked at it that way many kids would be left in unsafe neglectful homes. If her father was the primary care giver I would be curious to know what kind of neglect or abuse she was exposed to because I honestly can't see how a man who did the things he has could be kind, loving or attentive to anyone even his own child. I never said the parents would not be good care givers but the fact that the the news media has ascended on them like vultures and ave posted many pictures of them, their other daughter, and their granddaughter so they are easily recognizable right now. maybe the little girl could live with other family members until things calm down. If the mother did have any knowledge of this or helped in anyway then she should absolutely lose all rights to her child.
I Agree, this is getting off track. However, you don't know what you would do, you don't have a crystal ball. Move on, I don't agree an d it doesn't matter anyway.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:08 PM   #2256
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No she's right. If hetr husband was growing mairjuana in those pots she'd never know until the police showed up at her door.

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LOL, reminds me of a story when I was growing up. My mom's friends son (he was and still is quite the character :P) was growing "plants" in his room. She thought it was so nice that he had a hobby and she would water them for him .

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Old 05-01-2013, 08:17 PM   #2257
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I Agree, this is getting off track. However, you don't know what you would do, you don't have a crystal ball. Move on, I don't agree an d it doesn't matter anyway.
I am pretty confident in what my actions would be.
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:18 PM   #2258
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Three more arrests...
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Old 05-01-2013, 08:40 PM   #2259
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I am pretty confident in what my actions would be.
Yeah, you would hand over your baby to strangers because your so selfless so she could be shielded away from the press. I get it.
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Okay, I can spell! I meant to say, I don't agree with you.
Lmao it wasn't even close! Good old autocorrect!
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Here is the Criminal Complaint. http://c.o0bg.com/rw/Boston/2011-202..._complaint.pdf

None of the information leading to these guys came from Tsarnaev directly; it was his texts. They determined the need to get rid of evidence because of their friendship.
Help out a terrorist? I have no sympathy for these idiots.
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There was a photo of these friends on the news earlier. It was the same photo shown in an article about the friend with the Terrorista #1 plate. The article was about how the plate was a souvenir type gift and the timing was just really bad. So yeah, that guy with the plate is one of them.
I think, they've shown extremely bad judgement in more ways than one. But, it kinda shows where their heads are...
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:36 PM   #2262
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There was a photo of these friends on the news earlier. It was the same photo shown in an article about the friend with the Terrorista #1 plate. The article was about how the plate was a souvenir type gift and the timing was just really bad. So yeah, that guy with the plate is one of them.
Not smart, to say the least.
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Old 05-02-2013, 02:11 AM   #2263
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Yes but that was long before the internet, social media, and 24 hour news.
Yes, but this little girl will probably have her surname changed to her mother's maiden name, which is quite a common name. And a year from now most of us will likely forget the name Tsarnaev anyhow. Oswald was a name that still lives in infamy.

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Old 05-02-2013, 02:37 AM   #2264
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I put my children and their needs first and if I had to place my child with someone else until this madness was over I would absolutely put my own needs behind what I felt was best for them. I am sorry if you can't understand that or feel the same way.

Lots of children are taken away from their parents because of their inability to properly take care of them and I am sure those children love their parents dearly despite the situation. If we looked at it that way many kids would be left in unsafe neglectful homes. If her father was the primary care giver I would be curious to know what kind of neglect or abuse she was exposed to because I honestly can't see how a man who did the things he has could be kind, loving or attentive to anyone even his own child. I never said the parents would not be good care givers but the fact that the the news media has ascended on them like vultures and ave posted many pictures of them, their other daughter, and their granddaughter so they are easily recognizable right now. maybe the little girl could live with other family members until things calm down. If the mother did have any knowledge of this or helped in anyway then she should absolutely lose all rights to her child.
Most women who go to prison do not lose their parental rights. Someone else will have temporary custody. Their kids visit the mom in jail. If a woman gives birth in prison she can keep her baby with her. We only deprive people of their parental rights if they neglect or abuse their children.

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Lmao it wasn't even close! Good old autocorrect!
Thank you for realizing it was that and not me! Your instead of you're, that was me!
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