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Old 04-09-2013, 09:52 AM   #16
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Personally I hope there is no "free dining", in favor of room-only or package discounts. With the declining value of FD, combined with having to pay rack rate for rooms to get it, I feel a straight discount on rooms or packages, and then paying for meals out of pocket saves us more.

Usually when there is FD, other discounts on rooms or packages tend to be not very generous. Before FD, you could regularly find discounts of 40% off a package, including tickets. Not so much since FD has been offered. I don't mind the dining plan itself, as it can be not a bad deal for people who like to eat in the way WDW sets the plan up, but I feel FD has been offered in the last several years at the expense of other discounts.
That's not actually true we had 40% off room codes while they also had FD out in 2010 & 2011 i know b/c we chose the room only code over FD that time since we were staying deluxe it saved us more money but for the families staying value or mod it's a bigger discount than RO..

We stayed at BC CL last yr & only got 30% off but that's b/c each resort has a different percentage off.. Like a few months ago the RO discount said UP to 35% off when I booked AKL for a client I was told it would only be 30% & there was no FD offered for that time frame that could be blamed..

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Old 04-09-2013, 10:00 AM   #17
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I don't see this as a problem especially if the trade is close or even. For those looking for savings I would think the total value would matter more than just the word "free" being present. so if free dining saved 500 bucks but the stay, play, and dine discount saves 800 bucks wouldn't that be much better? All I'm saying is wait until the discounts are available then do the math rather than making the snap decision that if they don't give out free dining this year you aren't staying at all.

I think they are just mixing it up a bit. If this rumor is even what becomes reality.
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Old 04-09-2013, 10:20 AM   #18
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That's not actually true we had 40% off room codes while they also had FD out in 2010 & 2011 i know b/c we chose the room only code over FD that time since we were staying deluxe it saved us more money but for the families staying value or mod it's a bigger discount than RO..

We stayed at BC CL last yr & only got 30% off but that's b/c each resort has a different percentage off.. Like a few months ago the RO discount said UP to 35% off when I booked AKL for a client I was told it would only be 30% & there was no FD offered for that time frame that could be blamed..

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Note that I mentioned you could regularly find discounts of 40% before FD. I think I got the same 40% discount in 2010 (I didn't see it for my dates in 2011). But that wasn't a broadly available 40%. We got it in 2010 only by using a bounceback code and missed it entirely in 2011 because it wasn't offered for our dates, and this was in a terrible economy.

Now with an improving economy, they're not likely to offer anything better than 30%, and for an increasingly limited time period with lots of blackouts. I feel there's a better chance of even this happening if FD is not offered.

Before FD came out, it was much easier to find 40% discounts on RO or packages for a much broader range of dates.
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Old 04-09-2013, 10:26 AM   #19
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They actually started FD in 2005 I cant remember the RO codes then can you John? What were they like before 2005? I think 2010 was the first time I used RO but that's b/c it was my first Deluxe as well. I was originally on FD bounceback at CSR and wanted to stay Poly so someone messaged me here and told me the RO code would save me considerably more money and it did! So much so we stayed CL!

wyrum I think your right as long as some type of discount comes out Ill be happy I may have to change resorts but as long as my DH and I can go for our anniversary Ill be happy..
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I figured it out for our December trip. If they offer only room it saves us about $145 if it's free dining we save $265 per person which is over $500 for my room. I want free dining!!!
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They actually started FD in 2005 I cant remember the RO codes then can you John? What were they like before 2005? I think 2010 was the first time I used RO but that's b/c it was my first Deluxe as well. I was originally on FD bounceback at CSR and wanted to stay Poly so someone messaged me here and told me the RO code would save me considerably more money and it did! So much so we stayed CL!
I don't think I ever did a RO only reservation until much more recently than 2005. I tended to go for the package discounts (room + tix), which is where I regularly found 40% off. We did FD the first year it was offered, and kind of enjoyed it. Of course, then it included appetizers for all, dessert and tip. A better deal, I thought, though I still didn't care for having to make all the ADRs to maximize the value of the plan. In the back of my mind, though, I still felt weird about paying rack rate for the room.

In 2001, right after 9/11, we stayed at the Poly for at least 40% (it may have even been a higher discount, but I can't be sure) off, and the tickets were all park hoppers then. But this was kind of a desperate move for WDW, as the parks and resorts were largely empty that early fall. I'd be willing to bet others saved more than we did. I wasn't a Disboard lurker then, so I didn't know the latest and greatest on discounts.
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Even if they don't bring out FD they won't raise the room rates back up to where they used to be.

If they offer both I imagine it would be the same room discount percentages that they would offer if they didn't also put out FD.
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Personally I hope there is no "free dining", in favor of room-only or package discounts. With the declining value of FD, combined with having to pay rack rate for rooms to get it, I feel a straight discount on rooms or packages, and then paying for meals out of pocket saves us more.

Usually when there is FD, other discounts on rooms or packages tend to be not very generous. Before FD, you could regularly find discounts of 40% off a package, including tickets. Not so much since FD has been offered. I don't mind the dining plan itself, as it can be not a bad deal for people who like to eat in the way WDW sets the plan up, but I feel FD has been offered in the last several years at the expense of other discounts.
I feel bad for those who count on that FD offer but I'm like you in a way. I do not use FD or the DDP at all. I would rather see piecemeal discounts so that people can get the discounts that work best for them in the combination that works best as well.
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I figured it out for our December trip. If they offer only room it saves us about $145 if it's free dining we save $265 per person which is over $500 for my room. I want free dining!!!
FD saves us 1445.00 this year and that is for QSDP. Last year the percentage of pop century was 5%.
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I don't think I ever did a RO only reservation until much more recently than 2005. I tended to go for the package discounts (room + tix), which is where I regularly found 40% off. We did FD the first year it was offered, and kind of enjoyed it. Of course, then it included appetizers for all, dessert and tip. A better deal, I thought, though I still didn't care for having to make all the ADRs to maximize the value of the plan. In the back of my mind, though, I still felt weird about paying rack rate for the room.

In 2001, right after 9/11, we stayed at the Poly for at least 40% (it may have even been a higher discount, but I can't be sure) off, and the tickets were all park hoppers then. But this was kind of a desperate move for WDW, as the parks and resorts were largely empty that early fall. I'd be willing to bet others saved more than we did. I wasn't a Disboard lurker then, so I didn't know the latest and greatest on discounts.
I think in 2002 we stayed at WL for 94.00 a night during September. Oh have times changed.
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Got 40% off at the Poly 2010&2011 & upgraded to club level & NOW I'm paying almost the same for a MOD... I understand everything goes up but geez... This is sad.. I'm HOOKED but DH said after this trip if better discounts don't come out we will vacation else where..

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Anyone know how past free dining offers compare to this stay/play/dine offer? If the discount is comparable, it might be six of one half a dozen of the other. I do realize it would vary based on resort, so maybe some would come out ahead rather than free dining?
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I think the S/P/D worked out to only a little more then free dining.

I think the last time I got the 40% discount was Jan 2012 at WL. AP discount. Now sometimes they aren't even offering AP, and when the do, it's not much more or the same ad GP discount .

For us, I think the room only is cheaper then free dining, at mod or deluxe. We are only 2. And I've tracked my dining costs, and always come in under what the DDP cost. I don't drink pop, so water is fine, and don't have dessert after each meal. Instead of dessert for lunch, I may go somewhere later for a snack, and at dinner, we often share a dessert.
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I dont think this will be true. I was on the phone the other day with a CM about our upcoming trip in Sept and she asked me if I wanted to apply a room discount that is available to our trip and I declined and told her I was stalking the Dis Boards for the free dining so when it opens we can take advantage of this instead. And she said good idea alot of people wait for that. And if you think about it that is a bid draw for large families and a good marketing promo for Disney to fill rooms during a slow period for them.
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I think in 2002 we stayed at WL for 94.00 a night during September. Oh have times changed.
I remember getting a code for a $65 mod back in June '04 or thereabouts. We stayed at POR. Such a good deal!
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