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Old 04-03-2013, 06:46 AM   #1
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Laptop Selection Help

Dd (11) has a netbook that seems to be on its' last legs. I've been looking around to try to find a budget (under 300) replacement, preferably a laptop since she does online classes. Other than that, mostly web browsing and word processing. For the most part I've been looking at refurbs, and have found one (a Thinkpad) with the following specs:
1) FAST Intel Core 2 Duo 2.0GHz Processor. 2) 2.0GB DDR2 memory. 3) Large 80GB Hard disk. 4) Fast Wireless 802.11g (WiFi) and wired internet.
5) DVD (watch DVD movies). 6) 14.1" Widescreen Display. 7) Includes a 56k modem + 10/100/1000 ethernet, VGA and audio output, 3 USB 2.0 ports, 1394 Firewire. 8) Battery included. 9) AC charger / adapter included. Software included: 1) Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium fresh preloaded.

This falls within the budget, and looks like a great deal to me. My concern is the age thing. Original manufactoring was in 2007. While I consider myself relatively knowledgeable, I wanted some second opinions from people more tech savvy than I am. Totally open to suggestions, preferably laptops..just under $300. ** I did look at chromebooks, but not hot on the pita to print, and that you can't download to it.
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Old 04-03-2013, 11:33 AM   #2
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Dd (11) has a netbook that seems to be on its' last legs. I've been looking around to try to find a budget (under 300) replacement, preferably a laptop since she does online classes. Other than that, mostly web browsing and word processing. For the most part I've been looking at refurbs, and have found one (a Thinkpad) with the following specs:
1) FAST Intel Core 2 Duo 2.0GHz Processor. 2) 2.0GB DDR2 memory. 3) Large 80GB Hard disk. 4) Fast Wireless 802.11g (WiFi) and wired internet.
5) DVD (watch DVD movies). 6) 14.1" Widescreen Display. 7) Includes a 56k modem + 10/100/1000 ethernet, VGA and audio output, 3 USB 2.0 ports, 1394 Firewire. 8) Battery included. 9) AC charger / adapter included. Software included: 1) Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium fresh preloaded.

This falls within the budget, and looks like a great deal to me. My concern is the age thing. Original manufactoring was in 2007. While I consider myself relatively knowledgeable, I wanted some second opinions from people more tech savvy than I am. Totally open to suggestions, preferably laptops..just under $300. ** I did look at chromebooks, but not hot on the pita to print, and that you can't download to it.
My biggest concern is the 80Gig hard drive. That's not a lot.
My second concern is the Processor. It's a little on the slow side.

Google the manufacturer, model, & "review". Find out what the battery life is like.

Also something to think about is what she'll use to do word processing on. Microsoft office is the gold standard, but costs money. There are a number of free knockoffs (LibreOffice, GoogleDocs, and OpenOffice are some).

I don't understand why a laptop is necessary for online classes. Do you have a wireless router already at home? I would think you'd get more "bang for your buck" with a desktop model.
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Old 04-03-2013, 12:48 PM   #4
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My biggest concern is the 80Gig hard drive. That's not a lot.
My second concern is the Processor. It's a little on the slow side.

Google the manufacturer, model, & "review". Find out what the battery life is like.

Also something to think about is what she'll use to do word processing on. Microsoft office is the gold standard, but costs money. There are a number of free knockoffs (LibreOffice, GoogleDocs, and OpenOffice are some).

I don't understand why a laptop is necessary for online classes. Do you have a wireless router already at home? I would think you'd get more "bang for your buck" with a desktop model.
Thank you, Sam. It comes with Office, and the battery life is around six hrs with normal use (with a new battery anyway). We have prepaid wireless, but her lectures eat that pretty quickly, so a lot of times we go to my mom's to use her wifi, hence the desire for something portable. I meant a laptop vs. a netbook, simply because the screen is so much larger. I can get the same model with a larger hard drive for a bit more, I thought 80 was a lot, lol. Our desktop is from around 2002 though, so almost anything is an upgrade! I'm definitely open to any suggestions!
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Thank you, Sam. It comes with Office, and the battery life is around six hrs with normal use (with a new battery anyway). We have prepaid wireless, but her lectures eat that pretty quickly, so a lot of times we go to my mom's to use her wifi, hence the desire for something portable. I meant a laptop vs. a netbook, simply because the screen is so much larger. I can get the same model with a larger hard drive for a bit more, I thought 80 was a lot, lol. Our desktop is from around 2002 though, so almost anything is an upgrade! I'm definitely open to any suggestions!
Find out if the Office it "comes with" is a demo version that's only good for 30 days. That's usually what happens. To use it longer, you'd need to pay for it.

And prepaid wireless? Are you using a cell phone to connect? I understand the portability so she can use it at grandmothers, that's fine.

80Gig is not big. I don't think it would last very long before you'd need to delete things to keep it operating. The more you "fill" a HD, the slower it can go. "Standard" hard drives now are 500Gig, FYI.
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It's prepaid wifi through internet to go, we get 8 gbs/month. I'll definitely check on the office also, thank you! Part of the reason I liked the Thinkpad was the durability factor (it's a T61), but I'm starting to wonder if I'd be better off getting a new hp laptop at walmart for the same price. The laptops now just seem flimsy to me, I guess.
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It's prepaid wifi through internet to go, we get 8 gbs/month. I'll definitely check on the office also, thank you! Part of the reason I liked the Thinkpad was the durability factor (it's a T61), but I'm starting to wonder if I'd be better off getting a new hp laptop at walmart for the same price. The laptops now just seem flimsy to me, I guess.
Ah, now I see, a portable hot spot. I personally would rank a bigger hard drive more important than durability, but that's just me.
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Costco is a good place to look at laptops. Good prices, and they have a one-year warranty. I just think you're better off with something new with a warranty than taking a chance on a refurb. When I bought my latest laptop at Costco there was actually someone in the department that knew what they were talking about and helped me make a selection.
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You may be able to save some money if you don't mind the laptop shipping with Ubuntu Linux as opposed to Windows 7 or 8.
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Costco is a good place to look at laptops. Good prices, and they have a one-year warranty. I just think you're better off with something new with a warranty than taking a chance on a refurb. When I bought my latest laptop at Costco there was actually someone in the department that knew what they were talking about and helped me make a selection.
The refurbs I get (on various items) come with the "new" warranty. That's assuming they're refurbed by the manufacturer.
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My biggest concern is the 80Gig hard drive. That's not a lot.
My second concern is the Processor. It's a little on the slow side.

Google the manufacturer, model, & "review". Find out what the battery life is like.

Also something to think about is what she'll use to do word processing on. Microsoft office is the gold standard, but costs money. There are a number of free knockoffs (LibreOffice, GoogleDocs, and OpenOffice are some).

I don't understand why a laptop is necessary for online classes. Do you have a wireless router already at home? I would think you'd get more "bang for your buck" with a desktop model.
What would you recommend as an alternative to Microsoft Office. My dd needs it at school..she's been okay with whatever came with her Macbook Pro, but she is going to need more fairly soon. And when we bought our new laptop, we got Microsoft Office but never thought of her needing it, so got just the one time/single app.
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What would you recommend as an alternative to Microsoft Office. My dd needs it at school..she's been okay with whatever came with her Macbook Pro, but she is going to need more fairly soon. And when we bought our new laptop, we got Microsoft Office but never thought of her needing it, so got just the one time/single app.
LibreOffice, no doubts. It's the natural progression of OpenOffice and is a darn nice office suite. For Macs, iWork is fantastic, fully compatible with MS Office but even better at the same time! Even IF you want the most current version of MS Office I'd urge you to wait and use LibreOffice for the time being - it's about the right time for an MS Office update (we've hopped from 2003 to 2007 and then 2010 - 2013 is to be expected.)
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Hi AverageDiser,
Don't spend another minute looking at old laptops. Today's laptops are lightening speed compared to older ones. I purchased a great little lenovo laptop from their outlet. I just looked and they have some listed at $225 that are 'scratch and dent', others are new or refurbished. Mine was refurbished but I literally saved hundreds off retail price and it's still kicking a year later -- it does come with a warantee though. Not sure if I can leave a link, but I'll try it at the bottom. If not, just google lenovo outlet, click on "shop laptops", then sort the list by Price from low to high. You have to scroll through a couple pages for some reason. These are great little laptops. I don't think you'll be disappointed. Good luck! website: outlet.lenovo.com
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What would you recommend as an alternative to Microsoft Office. My dd needs it at school..she's been okay with whatever came with her Macbook Pro, but she is going to need more fairly soon. And when we bought our new laptop, we got Microsoft Office but never thought of her needing it, so got just the one time/single app.
Microsoft Web Apps is free but won't install on the computer. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/web-apps/

or Google Docs


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re. the alternative Office suites:

Watch this - it's Open Office vs. LibreOffice. The review is by Nixie Pixel, an open source genius!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sloEMUt7n5Q
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