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Old 03-25-2013, 02:21 PM   #31
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OT, so sorry Chuck...... Your mom is very lucky to have you!


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True words of wisdom.
In this world there are rule followers and rule breakers. One traveling with the other would make for an unpleasant trip for both.

Some of the nastiest, longest lasting feuds are between family members. My Mom's younger sister wouldn't speak to Mom for the last 25 years of her life, even though Mom would call her occasionally. Her family didn't even let Mom know that her sister had died. This sisters child, my only first cousin and my closest living relative, has not spoken to me in 33 years.

This pool hopping thing may be the tip of the iceberg between these two sisters. If the sister feels entitled to pool hop because the other is a DVC Member, the solution would be for the owner to tell the non-owner to buy their own membership and they can then interpret the rules of use however they please.
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Old 03-25-2013, 02:32 PM   #32
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To say the least, I was upset yesterday after talking to her, but my hubby reminded me that she has always takes things the wrong way. And said we are still going to have a great time.

With that said, my brother In-Law just called and talk to my DH(). When I asked him what that was all about, he said that we will never go on any more vacation with us, end of subject, And that my sister has been put on notice.

My brother in-law apologized again about her out burst. My DH told him thank you, but your still not going with us.
Sometimes I could just kiss that man.

So to all of you that helped me with this emotionally drama, THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart, you guys "ROCK"

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Kudos to your Hubby. I was going to say they could never go anywhere with me again. That would be the first and last time. Let them go on their own. Enjoy your vacation.
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Old 03-25-2013, 02:32 PM   #33
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You are smart to stick to your guns - you'll have your DVC membership for a lot more years, and it's better to be firm about the rules early so that there is no suggestion of it ever again.

Like a lot of sisters, she'll at some point want to make amends and if you do ever travel together again, you won't have to have the same argument years from now.

I'm in the camp that has never wanted to pool hop. When it takes 60-90 minutes to get anywhere by bus, I can't imagine it being worth two hours to do what I can do at the resort I'm at.

We suspected one time at SSR that there were a group of local young women at a pool there who had just driven in to swim at the resort pool. I do not feel it is an inconvenience to have gates with locks for your KTTW card (or RFID bracelet in the future) to gain access.
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Old 03-25-2013, 02:49 PM   #34
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What do you do when you know someone is pool hopping, notify a lifeguard, and then nothing happens? We have been at the pools in the past when we have overheard families talking about going back to their resort soon (a different one than the one they are currently swimming at). We have notified lifeguards who just kind of shrug or act like they are going to take care of it - and nothing. The family stays put. It can be very frustrating.
Well Disney is never going to ruin someone else's vacation unless they're being disruptive, even if they don't belong there. Or unless they absolutely have to. They trust that most people will follow the rules. The ones that don't usually get away with it, again unless disruptive.

We found this out on the cruise.
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Old 03-25-2013, 03:39 PM   #35
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Just got off the phone with my sister(wow that didn't go well). She said because I was being such a *****, that they are now not coming with us.
I held my temper and said I was not being a *****, it's just the rules of DVC. I have emailed her the section(My DH found it in the rules) to her,so the ball is in her court.
I have also called the Hotel and changed the # of people on the reservation(she told me in not so nice words, I was to MOVE her and her DH from the reservation).
If she calls me back (which she will) in the next week of so ,about added them back on the reservation, I'm simple going to tell her(very nicely) that she will have to make her own reservations.
Thanks to all for your advice.

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I think you should consider yourself lucky that this conversation happened BEFORE your trip!!! Can you even imagine what vacationing with them could have been like?!

While certainly not fun to deal with, better that you dealt with it at home and not at WDW. She can't ruin your trip anymore.

Her loss.
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Old 03-25-2013, 04:00 PM   #36
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When I was younger I would have made a point of spelling out the rules to my sibling.

Now, as a wiser and world-weary oldest sister I would pretty much not say a thing and would make my own choices (not to pool hop) and let them make theirs. In this case you would be 100% protected because you are not even staying onsite. There would be no link between you and your sister from Disney's standpoint. You are not responsible for her choices, DVC member or not.

Now, if she were staying as your guest, then yes that gets much trickier. Still I can't imagine they would revoke your membership if you guest went and pool hopped at BCV, for example. They'd just get turned away and a verbal reprimand and that would be that.

Nothing worth fighting with a sibling over, IMHO.
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:19 PM   #37
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Just got off the phone with my sister(wow that didn't go well). She said because I was being such a *****, that they are now not coming with us.
I held my temper and said I was not being a *****, it's just the rules of DVC. I have emailed her the section(My DH found it in the rules) to her,so the ball is in her court.
I have also called the Hotel and changed the # of people on the reservation(she told me in not so nice words, I was to MOVE her and her DH from the reservation).
If she calls me back (which she will) in the next week of so ,about added them back on the reservation, I'm simple going to tell her(very nicely) that she will have to make her own reservations.
Thanks to all for your advice.

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Given what you've posted I'm willing to be this is not the first family drama you've had with such issues. IF so, it's possible you could have other issues this trip or going forward. It is hard to believe that someone would get so upset about this specific issue when staying off property.
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:56 PM   #38
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Well Disney is never going to ruin someone else's vacation unless they're being disruptive, even if they don't belong there. Or unless they absolutely have to. They trust that most people will follow the rules. The ones that don't usually get away with it, again unless disruptive.

We found this out on the cruise.
You go inside and find a manager. You then ask for a discount or other compensation since you paid more for things others are getting for free and had you known this you would have just dropped in too.

That gets them moving.
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Old 03-25-2013, 11:50 PM   #39
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What do you do when you know someone is pool hopping, notify a lifeguard, and then nothing happens? We have been at the pools in the past when we have overheard families talking about going back to their resort soon (a different one than the one they are currently swimming at). We have notified lifeguards who just kind of shrug or act like they are going to take care of it - and nothing. The family stays put. It can be very frustrating.
With all due respect, if it really bothers you that much, find a manager. The Lifeguards have far more important things to worry about.
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Old 03-26-2013, 11:46 AM   #40
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Have noticed that since FW upgraded their pool, loungers seem to be easier to find @ WL.

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We have been asked for ID at the OKW pool - and a room ID is a must at BCV. I personally don't see the excitement in pool hopping. We can barely get everything together and find the time to spend quality time in our resort pool, much less haul all of our stuff to another pool.
we've never bothered either, just seemed to be too much work.

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Wow... I didn't even know I could do this!
I've always wondered what the pool at the Poly is like. I'm going to be at AKL...if I have a free day, is it worth checking out? Or is the pool at Jambo better anyway?
Can't pool hop to AK or SAB. The volcano pool at the poly is cleverly themed but it's small & always packed when we stroll thru the grounds prior to dining there.

perhaps the new wristbands could be set up to better police entrance to pool areas.
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Old 03-26-2013, 12:34 PM   #41
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Wow... I didn't even know I could do this!
I've always wondered what the pool at the Poly is like. I'm going to be at AKL...if I have a free day, is it worth checking out? Or is the pool at Jambo better anyway?
The pool at the Poly is always crowded - nice but crowded. The pool at Jambo is wonderful and if you're traveling with kids go to the one at Kidani. Has a water park area - beautiful pool - zero entry depth.

Was at AKV in August - watched the movie they were showing that night from inside the pool - Heaven in August.

I personally prefer the quiet pool at VWL to the main pool.


To the OP - I travel with my sister quite often - we are both in our fifties.
When we were younger stupid arguments about stupid things - she gets up at the crack of dawn and wants to get moving - me I like to lounge around and take my time I'm on vacation, very difficult to have such varying styles off property with only 1 car - can't meet up easily later.

Now that I own DVC we stay on property and she gets up and going in the morning does what she wants and meets me either at the hotel or in a park later in the day. I don't want to spend every waking moment in the parks - I like to enjoy the resorts.

Good luck, have a great vacation - and I hope you can work things out with your sister - not for this vacation but going forward.
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Old 03-26-2013, 12:45 PM   #42
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I personally don't see the excitement in pool hopping.
The only time we've done it was when my sister decided at the last minute to come on the trip with us. Because it was so late in the game, I could not get her a reservation at the same resort we were staying. But we wanted to spend one day swimming.
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Well Disney is never going to ruin someone else's vacation unless they're being disruptive, even if they don't belong there. Or unless they absolutely have to. They trust that most people will follow the rules. The ones that don't usually get away with it, again unless disruptive.

We found this out on the cruise.

Only once have I seen the recreation staff come around and check room cards (other than at SAB) it was at the Poly and they most certainly did ask people to leave.

I also once witnessed a woman go absolutely insane when denied entry to the pool at BC/YC and security was called.
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Why not learn what the rules are, then work within them? I was unsure of how transfers worked, asked, now I know and will work with it accordingly. I don't understand stressing yourself out doing otherwise. Maybe it's because I'm old and don't have the energy anymore to buck a system.
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What do you do when you know someone is pool hopping, notify a lifeguard, and then nothing happens? We have been at the pools in the past when we have overheard families talking about going back to their resort soon (a different one than the one they are currently swimming at). We have notified lifeguards who just kind of shrug or act like they are going to take care of it - and nothing. The family stays put. It can be very frustrating.
I truly wish that Disney enforced this rule. But it seems to be too hard for them. Maybe it's time they fenced in the more 'visited' pools. I know that the one time we stayed at the Polynesian, it was August, and it was hot/humid. We really wanted to spend time at the pool. But almost every time we went, it was way too crowded, so we stuck to the quiet pool outside our longhouse.
There was the one time though, that as my dh, my dd and I walked around, looking for a spot to sit that would allow us to keep an eye on our dd (then 9), we could find nothing. I did overhear a large family (wasn't hard to do since they were so boistrous) commenting that they might think about paying to actually stay here the next time...the pool was way nicer than the Hampton Inn's pool where they were staying. Really aggravated me since they had taken up about 8 lounge chairs and 3 tables with all their stuff. A bit later, a lifeguard did come around, asking to see room keys. That dad stood his ground and said that they didn't have them with them, they were in the room. Well, how are you going to get back into your room sir? the lifeguard asked. Dad had no answer. The lifeguard told them that if they couldn't produce a room key, for the Polynesian, they would have to pack up and leave. Man, that family was peeved.

I've been at BW's Luna Park pool area when we have been asked to show room keys. I have no problem showing it. I wish they would do a sweep every hour or so on the weekends!!
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