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Old 03-14-2013, 11:31 AM   #46
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Really, "risk of death"? Nobody has died because of power outages on Carnival ships. Carnival sails 6 times as many ships as Disney and has the biggest fleet on the sea, it is going to have more issues than other lines. And because of the Triumph, every minor issue is going to be a major news event.
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Old 03-14-2013, 11:32 AM   #47
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Actually, Carnival Dream has been sailing since September 2009
Sorry, thinking of the Breeze. Still, within the "warranty period" when failures are much more likely to be design related than maintenance related.
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Old 03-14-2013, 11:49 AM   #48
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While I have my own reasons (non mechanical) for never sailing with Carnival, I think in this case they doing all the right things; e.g. not having the ship leave port until the problems are fixed, offering passengers charter flights home & what ever else they are offering in the way of discounts. As others have posted mechanical problems can happen anytime. I don't think any cruise line is immune, even DCL (& we have 10 Disney cruises completed with 3 more scheduled). Just my 2 cents worth..
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Old 03-14-2013, 11:49 AM   #49
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Sailed Carnival once as a college graduation gift.

Glad I only sail DCL now!
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Old 03-14-2013, 11:50 AM   #50
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Really, "risk of death"? Nobody has died because of power outages on Carnival ships. Carnival sails 6 times as many ships as Disney and has the biggest fleet on the sea, it is going to have more issues than other lines. And because of the Triumph, every minor issue is going to be a major news event.
You obviously missed my point. Let me try this again. Since people do things that risk their lives everyday, they will undoubtedly get on a cruise ship, despite its reputation.

Now, to your 2nd point. Forget about DCL for a minute. How many more ships does Carnival have when compared to RCI. 2, that's it. Royal Carribean has 22 ships fleet wide. How often do you hear about power failures and people getting stuck at Sea and in port? Carnival has 3 in the last 3 years. What about RCI? It's got to be a lot since they have so many more ships than DCL, right?
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Old 03-14-2013, 11:52 AM   #51
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It may not be a maintenance issue but rather a design problem. Anyhoo sometimes you get what you pay for in the world and a less expensive cruise has to cut somewhere to meet the bottom line.
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Old 03-14-2013, 12:01 PM   #52
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I was on the Carnival page of a different cruise board. Basically they were doing scheduled testing of the backup/emergency generator when they found an issue with it. The ship cannot sail without it. The generator in question powers certain necessary equipment on the ship in the event of a power failure. If the ship was at sea shed prob be escorted in by a tug. But because she was tied to a pier its a different story. There's nothing wrong with her mains or the drive motors which is totally different from Splendor and Triumph. In this case I doubt it was a design fault. The Splendour and Triumph prob is a design fault.
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Old 03-14-2013, 12:06 PM   #53
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It may not be a maintenance issue but rather a design problem. Anyhoo sometimes you get what you pay for in the world and a less expensive cruise has to cut somewhere to meet the bottom line.
A design problem makes sense. I hope they invest in making some serious changes.
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Old 03-14-2013, 12:47 PM   #55
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For those commenting about maintenance issues, the Dream is less than a year old. I think it's HIGHLY likely that there is a design issue, not a failure to maintain the ship. I could believe maintenance with the Triumph, but the Dream is too young for that to be an issue.

Note that both ships came from the Fincantieri shipyard. Which also built the Magic and the Wonder. When this issue occurred with the Triumph, there was a lot of discussion (unresolved) as to the extent to which Fincantieri was responsible for the design on the Magic and Wonder, and whether those ships could be susceptible to the same issues.

One thing to keep in mind is that DCL operates 4 ships, while Carnival operates 24 ships. Odds are you'll see more issues with Carnival, because there's more opportunities for them to occur.
The Dream is more than a year old. I sailed on it in 2010 when it was 6 months old.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:01 PM   #56
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Just read on John Heald's Facebook page that they are working with the authorities in St Marteen and US to get everyone back (including those without passports) and anticipate no problems. So, apparently there is a back up plan in place to deal with that exact problem of no passports. Personally, I always bring a passport since I use it for other travel, but this should make those who travel on a birth certificate feel better about their decision.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:06 PM   #57
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I sailed the Dream back in 2010 - it was a good cruise. However, the design of the ship isn't ideal IMO. They added staterooms without the addition of public space. In addition to that, the general circulation of the ship is poor. That would be an absolutely miserable ship to be on in the case of a Glory-like tragedy.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:41 PM   #58
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Quoting myself from another cruise thread:

"If it were any other cruise line, the topic would have been in HUGE CAPITAL LETTERS with the cruise line's name splattered all over and everyone would be talking about how TERRIBLE the other cruise lines are, and how this COULD NEVER HAPPEN ON DISNEY."


I rest my case.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:42 PM   #59
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I have sailed Carnival twice. The most recent was last month. It was obvious they have cut back in things like food and entertainment quality, so it would not surprise me if they have cut back on things like maintenance. With all of the recent problems, I am trying to convince my husband to try another cruise line next time.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:45 PM   #60
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I know someone on this ship. They are to be flown to Orlando but it'll take time because of the sheer number of people on the ship. She said conditions were not as bad as being reported.
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