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Old 03-14-2013, 01:03 PM   #16
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avatar was so popular because it was the first truely spectacular 3d effects film... other than that... blah

dedicating a whole land to that movie would be EXTREME overkill in my opinion - if they want to build a section of the park for mythical creatures and have an avatar "attraction" then so be it... but being tied to "avatar" for a whole land... not smart
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:23 PM   #17
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:31 PM   #18
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Never said it was not a success.
It's pretty widely accepted that it didn't have the cultural impact that many expected it to have. People like it (and will like Avatarland), but there's no denying the fact that it doesn't have the actual fanbase and impact that other "big" films do. Sure, a lot of people casually "like" it, but not enough people actually LOVE it.

You can turn on the TV and see a number of pop-culture references to Indiana Jones, Star Wars, Disney films, superheros etc; you just don't have people passionate about Avatar.

trust me on this one.
as someone who spends much of their energy going to media conventions and as someone who studied film, its easy to see that Avatar is more or less considered a thing of the past at this point. It would be wise for Disney to wait on the sequels, if they ever appear (Cameron is notorious for ditching projects), and see if they are actually worthwhile.
I was going to respond...instead see above

EXACTLY...no one is doubting the stats on Avatar...but it has no measurable cultural impact.

No buzz...none.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:32 PM   #19
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avatar was so popular because it was the first truely spectacular 3d effects film... other than that... blah

dedicating a whole land to that movie would be EXTREME overkill in my opinion - if they want to build a section of the park for mythical creatures and have an avatar "attraction" then so be it... but being tied to "avatar" for a whole land... not smart
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:48 PM   #20
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:02 PM   #21
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Yes, to the OP. Avatarland is still in the plans and is "on track". That according to the words spoken at the DTD renovation announcement.
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:59 PM   #22
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From what I hear Avatar land is on track. We will see complete plans this summer
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Old 03-14-2013, 03:14 PM   #23
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I would think that anything Avatar related would be easily converted to a Star Wars theme. Since they have already announced avatarland going forward with that name untill such time that J. Cameron steps out then presto chango avatar land become Dagobah or the forest moon of endor.
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Tom Staggs just confirmed this today in his Disney Springs announcement. He said progress in 'on track'. Link is below
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when Avatar was announced it was trending on twitter all day... once actual ride/rides are announced you ll see a little more excitement...just my opinion...
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we ve had these arguments before so i half way dont want to post about it but,

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40,000,000 likes on face book page compared to 10,000,000 likes for star wars (no im not a star wars hater i actually hope we see expansion in DHS)

you re right one movie that came out four years ago so they definitely need to add to the franchise with more movies (avatar 2 and 3 out by 2015/2016)

i guess we will have to wait and see how popular it is at animal kingdom but i would bet anything if avatar is done right you ll see a 10 to 15% increase in attendance at DAK
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but i ve given you several hard facts/examples as to why avatar is and has been relevant..you re giving opinions

maybe its that you re not passionate about it....regardless avatar is alive and hopefully people keep an open mind and visit it when it opens...carsland is a very average film yet the land itself is incredible you hardly need to have a great film in order to have an incredibly immersive land..avatar is set up perfectly for a theme park with the bioluminesece and floating mountains themes of living in harmony with nature/conservation is perfect for DAK

i mean is song of the south relevant? or twilight zone? neither are but the rides are some of disneys best....a great ride is a great ride

i think the greatest movie franchise ever is The Godfather...great storyline, great quotes, and characters but it would make a terrible ride in a theme park...sometimes we over analyze these things..bottom line line is what make s a great theme park attraction and are they fun for families

i think avatar presents something fun and possibly interactive for families of all ages..maybe im wrong we will see

the OP wanted to know the status of the land not peoples opinion on avatar thats for another thread feel free to rip away
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I would think that anything Avatar related would be easily converted to a Star Wars theme. Since they have already announced avatarland going forward with that name untill such time that J. Cameron steps out then presto chango avatar land become Dagobah or the forest moon of endor.
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but i ve given you several hard facts/examples as to why avatar is and has been relevant..you re giving opinions

maybe its that you re not passionate about it....regardless avatar is alive and hopefully people keep an open mind and visit it when it opens...carsland is a very average film yet the land itself is incredible you hardly need to have a great film in order to have an incredibly immersive land..avatar is set up perfectly for a theme park with the bioluminesece and floating mountains themes of living in harmony with nature/conservation is perfect for DAK

i mean is song of the south relevant? or twilight zone? neither are but the rides are some of disneys best....a great ride is a great ride

i think the greatest movie franchise ever is The Godfather...great storyline, great quotes, and characters but it would make a terrible ride in a theme park...sometimes we over analyze these things..bottom line line is what make s a great theme park attraction and are they fun for families

i think avatar presents something fun and possibly interactive for families of all ages..maybe im wrong we will see

the OP wanted to know the status of the land not peoples opinion on avatar thats for another thread feel free to rip away
I don't doubt the imagineers can do something good with the IP. They usually do a passable job at the very least. But my point still stands, the movie was a flash-in-the-pan buzz movie and there is no disputing that. If you really want to gauge the pop cultural relevance of sci-fi product, do me a favor and go to San Diego Comic Con (or any con, for that matter)and tell me how large the representation of the Avatar fandom is.
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For most people, if there are new rides - especially more thrill rides, they won't care what the land is called. I loved the movie and would probably focus on all of the details of the new "Land" but my kids just want to know if there will be any rides....
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I don't doubt the imagineers can do something good with the IP. They usually do a passable job at the very least. But my point still stands, the movie was a flash-in-the-pan buzz movie and there is no disputing that. If you really want to gauge the pop cultural relevance of sci-fi product, do me a favor and go to San Diego Comic Con (or any con, for that matter)and tell me how large the representation of the Avatar fandom is.
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I don't doubt the imagineers can do something good with the IP. They usually do a passable job at the very least. But my point still stands, the movie was a flash-in-the-pan buzz movie and there is no disputing that. If you really want to gauge the pop cultural relevance of sci-fi product, do me a favor and go to San Diego Comic Con (or any con, for that matter)and tell me how large the representation of the Avatar fandom is.
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enjoy new immersions after all its theme park addition
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do you not understand what discussion is? Sorry you don't like my posts, but you'll have to deal with them.
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do me a favor
try the land /ride out and report back to us your thoughts on it because it is coming regardless of what you think about it
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Land's not open yet. I'll be glad to report back when it does open! In the meantime, it's fun to discuss and speculate.
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