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Old 04-16-2013, 05:59 PM   #76
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Unfair comparison. If there were $43 on the ground, I would take it and be happy. That is a one-time event and a sure thing-and didn't cost me anything yet.

Again, you have to pay ahead of time for food you have not eaten, and actually may not eat. So Disney has your money ahead of time. What if some people get sick and can't eat for several days at WDW? Is that not a waste of money? There goes the $43 savings. Again, what if one or more people in the group decide they want the pasta or chicken instead of the steak, even though you have pretermined that in order to save money you must order the steak. There goes the $43 savings.
Life if full of what ifs. What if you pay for your airfare, book your Disney trip, and the day you leave you become extremly ill and are rushed to the hospital. If you didn't purchase insurance, your out all of your money. If you purchase insurance and nothing happens, you spent money you didn't need. Example of what ifs.

Again, I am not attacking you, for some it works out and for some it don't. Some are willing to pay ahead and some are not. For you and how you dine, it may not be worth it; for someone else it may.
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Old 04-16-2013, 06:04 PM   #77
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Life if full of what ifs. What if you pay for your airfare, book your Disney trip, and the day you leave you become extremly ill and are rushed to the hospital. If you didn't purchase insurance, your out all of your money. If you purchase insurance and nothing happens, you spent money you didn't need. Example of what ifs.

Again, I am not attacking you, for some it works out and for some it don't. Some are willing to pay ahead and some are not. For you and how you dine, it may not be worth it; for someone else it may.
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Old 04-16-2013, 06:28 PM   #78
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The justification to lose money because someone might get sick makes no sense to me. I paid for a whole vacation and someone might get sick. The idea that I don't know my own or my child's eating habits is bizarre. My daughter isn't ordering the chicken. She's ordering the steak if its an option. Every. Single. Time. I'm ordering dessert everytime. You know why? I like dessert and I order it every time I go to eat anywhere. Even in Japanese restaurants when half the time, their dessert sucks. I work I'm finance so of course I did a spreadsheet. Seriously. OOP would cost me $385 before I ate a single snack, VS $393 for the DDP.
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Old 04-16-2013, 06:41 PM   #79
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To me it is. My kids don't have a choice. It's lunch time they come with me or if it's dinner time they come with me. It isn't just about saving money. There is a convenience factor too.
That's what I love more than anything is the convenience!
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Old 04-16-2013, 06:45 PM   #80
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That's what I love more than anything is the convenience!
And that convenience is?
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Old 04-16-2013, 06:47 PM   #81
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for some it works out and for some it don't. Some are willing to pay ahead and some are not. For you and how you dine, it may not be worth it; for someone else it may.
This. :grin:

DH and I tried the dining plan once when it was just the two of us, and it was an epic fail. We're not dessert people, and don't snack a lot at Disney. Did we save money? Maybe, but for us it wasn't worth it. We don't get the dining plan now for most trips.

However, we took a trip with another couple and their daughter and did use the dining plan and it worked well for our purposes that trip. The husband is, well, frugal to the extreme. There's no way he would have shelled out for character dinners or pricier menu items if he was paying OOP. (They could afford them, he just doesn't see the need to spend that much on a meal.) So we told him food was included in the package...and didn't see the need to mention it was optional to add on the plan. He had a great time, and didn't worry about how much things cost. No idea if we saved money, but we definitely prevented stress and arguments, and had a much better trip for it.

To each his own...if you like the plan and feel like it benefits you in some way, get it, and if you don't, don't. :grin:
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:21 PM   #82
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What's the convenience? You still have to swipe your card for every meal, right? How is OOP different in convenience compared to the dining plan?

If the spreadsheet seems inaccurate to you, there could be a couple reasons...

[*]It estimates costs based on averages of menu items, not an actual bill.[*]You have to estimate things like appetizers and desserts, too.[*]Peak plan costs aren't reflected.


The spreadsheet includes lots of variables in there. You have to make sure you're filling it out correctly. There's lots of gotchas that the spreadsheet points out that people may not realize. (The Hoop De Doo sometimes counts as TS and sometimes not.)

If you found a $43 coupon lying on the ground and it said, "This coupon is worth $43 if and only if you pay Disney up front for all food costs you intend to use, but if you deviate, this coupon may decline in value and/or surcharges will be added to your bill that may cause you to actually lose money by using this coupon," would you use it? I think not.
I filled it out fine. Im a techy and work from home. it wasnt tough to follow.

Frankly if I have to worry about that many variables I may as well do the old fashioned pen and paper method. I don't see it as the godsend you do, and that's fine. I adore the DXDP too... So we obviously have different opinions on things
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And that convenience is?
I don't know about the others, but the dining plan will be convenient for my husband and I for a couple of reasons. First off, I like the idea of having everything paid ahead of time. I realize I could just put so much money into a savings account each week or buy a bunch of gift cards, but it's so much easier to just have it all paid for up front, at once.

On top of that, we are going to save money on the dining plan- we're doing the deluxe. We're planning two TS meals a day, early lunch and later dinner, with one being a signature, and we figure we'll use snack credits for a quick breakfast or in between meals if necessary. We need to spend approximately $100 a day each to break even. We should be able to do almost that with one signature TS alone, definitely when you add in the second TS. The snacks are easily just a bonus on top of that. We are looking forward to being able to get an appetizer, entree, and dessert as we love being able to try a lot of new things. I also love the idea of being able to get the most expensive thing on the menu if I want to and not have to worry how much more I have to spend to get it.

I'm not saying that the dining plan is for everyone. If you know you aren't going to eat all of the included courses, will use only a few meal credits for TS as opposed to CS, or tend to order the least expensive things on a menu, then no, the dining plan probably isn't your best bet cost-wise. That said, there are people out there that like the dining plan and have good reasons for it.
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And that convenience is?
The convenience of having it paid for before hand and not having to worry about how much you're spending.
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:18 PM   #85
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I don't know about the others, but the dining plan will be convenient for my husband and I for a couple of reasons. First off, I like the idea of having everything paid ahead of time. I realize I could just put so much money into a savings account each week or buy a bunch of gift cards, but it's so much easier to just have it all paid for up front, at once.
Do you think OOP means paying cash? You use your room key/admission card as a credit card. All the charges get sent to your hotel bill. It's virtually no different that what you have to do for the DDP. Instead of paying up front, you pay at the end.

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On top of that, we are going to save money on the dining plan- we're doing the deluxe. We're planning two TS meals a day, early lunch and later dinner, with one being a signature, and we figure we'll use snack credits for a quick breakfast or in between meals if necessary. We need to spend approximately $100 a day each to break even. We should be able to do almost that with one signature TS alone, definitely when you add in the second TS. The snacks are easily just a bonus on top of that. We are looking forward to being able to get an appetizer, entree, and dessert as we love being able to try a lot of new things. I also love the idea of being able to get the most expensive thing on the menu if I want to and not have to worry how much more I have to spend to get it.
Please post your dining itinerary. Other people who want to do the deluxe plan will benefit from it.

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The convenience of having it paid for before hand and not having to worry about how much you're spending.
Why would you worry if you know what your dining itinerary is? You'll know how much it costs before you go and you'll know if it's worthwhile. If you don't know when and where you'll be dining, then the DDP is worse, because you'll be worrying if you'll use it all.
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Do you think OOP means paying cash? You use your room key/admission card as a credit card. All the charges get sent to your hotel bill. It's virtually no different that what you have to do for the DDP. Instead of paying up front, you pay at the end.



Please post your dining itinerary. Other people who want to do the deluxe plan will benefit from it.



Why would you worry if you know what your dining itinerary is? You'll know how much it costs before you go and you'll know if it's worthwhile. If you don't know when and where you'll be dining, then the DDP is worse, because you'll be worrying if you'll use it all.
I don't want to come home with a ton of credit card debt so I would rather pay for it all at once. Why do you have such issues with people who like the ddp?
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DH, DS, DD and I would never eat enough to make any dining plan work BUT we loveTIW. no pre-pay, no limits or restrictions to deal with; CMs get such a relaxed look on their face when we respond with TIW when they ask our dining plan. Over the many years we've gone to WDW, I realize things have probably gotten better, but I've witnessed too many meltdowns by adults over the credits and what is what and how many and how much It truly is not anything we would ever consider and I'm so grateful for the TIW option
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I'm not saying that the dining plan is for everyone. If you know you aren't going to eat all of the included courses, will use only a few meal credits for TS as opposed to CS, or tend to order the least expensive things on a menu, then no, the dining plan probably isn't your best bet cost-wise. That said, there are people out there that like the dining plan and have good reasons for it.
Agreed! We're using the DxDP in August and have 9 character meals(including CRT), 4 signature dining meals, and 6 TS meals planned for our trip. I had a blast making the ADR's, our trip was paid for months ago, and we have a very fast paced schedule day to day, and one of the best things about my husband's days of is that we can sit at the table and enjoy dinner together. We literally take over an hour just to sit and eat and crack up at the table with our kids on the rare evenings that we're all home. Dining is probably just as exciting for us as the parks! I'm pumped for DxDP
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Please post your dining itinerary. Other people who want to do the deluxe plan will benefit from it.

I think I've already stated pretty reasonably my reasons for knowing the dining plan will work for my situation without going into things further. I'm sure that I could come up with a dozen ways to save money on the plan, while you could come up with just as many ways that someone wouldn't. We like using the plan, others may not depending on the situation.

At this point, I'm just going to stop feeding the troll.
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I think I've already stated pretty reasonably my reasons for knowing the dining plan will work for my situation without going into things further. I'm sure that I could come up with a dozen ways to save money on the plan, while you could come up with just as many ways that someone wouldn't. We like using the plan, others may not depending on the situation.

At this point, I'm just going to stop feeding the troll.
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