Go Back   The DIS Discussion Forums - DISboards.com > Disney Trip Planning Forums > Disney Resorts
facebooktwitterpinterestgoogle plusyoutubeDIS UpdatesDIS email updates
Register Chat FAQ Tickers Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 03-11-2013, 12:40 PM   #46
sndral
DIS Veteran
 
sndral's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,520

Based on the very limited information reported thus far I am fairly certain there were no lifeguards present. The news report said the cousin pulled him out and that dad and another guest administered CPR until EMT arrived. If lifeguards had been present they would have been administering CPR and more than likely pulled the victim from the pool.
__________________
sndral is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 12:51 PM   #47
MeetingMickeyin2006
Well, slotted pig, they're standard issue!
 
MeetingMickeyin2006's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 611

So sad! Praying for a full recovery for this child.
__________________
Me, 35 Hubby, 35 The Boy, 11 The Princess, 6


MeetingMickeyin2006 is offline   Reply With Quote
|
The DIS
Register to remove

Join Date: 1997
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 1,000,000
Old 03-11-2013, 01:15 PM   #48
Ofinn
DIS Veteran
 
Ofinn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,060

Quote:
Originally Posted by wdwmom3 View Post
Seriously people enough with the "parents should be watching kids". It is very likely they were there. Accidents happen. Stop trying to find someone to blame. My kids who are 10 and 12 went as part of a school trip to a water park and they are not strong swimmers. I reminded them to stay with buddies and not go in deep water. But I was not there with them. Other then life guards and checking in with supervisors every hour they were not being watched. I guess I was negligent for letting them go?

Who cares where the parents were. It does not matter at all.
I agree with you. Many of the lifeguards at our pool are teenagers, and not much older than this kid. This kid could have been a great swimmer and it may have just been a fluke accident or maybe he drowned because of another medical problem. Things happen. I don't think a 13 year old needs to watched every second like a two year old. I really see no reason to judge the parents.
__________________

Ofinn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 01:25 PM   #49
khaoskat
Mouseketeer
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 239

Quote:
Originally Posted by kapoof View Post
and i meant it where were the parents?? where they in they pool with him? and he banged his head? or some place else? i mentioned before (hello?) and understand accidents happen even under watch. it was another poster who questioned watching a 13 year old, and that is where the 'judgement started' people were saying they in fact watch their kids even at 13 years old. no one is saying the parents weren't watching him.
The parents couldn't have been to far way, as the father is the first one who started CPR on the child.
khaoskat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 01:26 PM   #50
Epcotgal
Mouseketeer
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 277

Quote:
Originally Posted by sndral View Post
Based on the very limited information reported thus far I am fairly certain there were no lifeguards present. The news report said the cousin pulled him out and that dad and another guest administered CPR until EMT arrived. If lifeguards had been present they would have been administering CPR and more than likely pulled the victim from the pool.
Yes. So apparently his father was at the pool too. From what I understand this happened after dark. With kids swimming, playing ball, diving under water, it's not easy to see their every move especially at night.
Epcotgal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 01:33 PM   #51
CandleontheWater
Forever in love with Hathaway Browne
 
CandleontheWater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,193

The father was obviously right there at the pool, because the article says that he immediately began CPR on the injured boy. The thing about drowning is that it doesn't happen in real life the way it does in cartoons, a person drowning can look OK to an untrained eye (yes, even a watchful parent!), when they are really in serious trouble. Check out this link about what to be watchful for and for information about the drowning response. http://mariovittone.com/2010/05/154/

If you have kids and they spend any time in the water, you really should take a look. Most childhood drownings happen while a parent is present and watching.
CandleontheWater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 01:35 PM   #52
TDC Nala
1937, what a year that was
Diet Coke on Ice or Else
I apparently don't do anything they want to stimulate
 
TDC Nala's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Not far enough outside the Beltway
Posts: 58,870
DISboards Moderator

People can drown in 3 feet of water too.

Lifeguards are not present at the value resorts (probably other resorts too) after a certain time, but they do not close the pool. Guests swim at their own risk when the lifeguards are off duty.
__________________
TDC Nala is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 01:36 PM   #53
roomthreeseventeen
Inaugural Dopey Challenge finisher
 
roomthreeseventeen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 7,961

Quote:
Originally Posted by TDC Nala View Post
People can drown in 3 feet of water too.
If you have a seizure or hit your head, you can drown in an inch of water.
__________________
Amy, Patrick, Cosette and Herbie
Many trips as a kid! 2010 GF RPC (March) and AKL/BWI (Oct)
2012
AKL (marathon weekend) and ... AKL (Wine and Dine)
2013 Fort Wilderness 2014 Dopey Challenge AKL
2015 Dopey Challenge at the Beach Club!

roomthreeseventeen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 01:44 PM   #54
JKMJ441724
Um, I'm going to go with "NO."
 
JKMJ441724's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Bible belt
Posts: 1,698

Years ago

I was a lifeguard at our local pool for a couple of summers. Thankfully out of those 2 summers I only had to go in one time.

Let me tell you, the memory is enough to last me a lifetime. 22 years later and I still remember it vividly. Our pool was L-shaped and right at the corner of the L is where it went from shallow to deep water.

A kid who was not a member jumped in right at the corner. I watched for a couple of seconds (but seemed like an eternity) and he didn't come up. I dove in and that kid was under water, wide-eyed and mouth open, hands like claws, not even trying to get to the surface. He had a look of absolute terror on his face. If I hadn't been specifically watching him, I feel like it could have gone SOUTH very quick.

I was so shook up that I told my boss I was going home for the day. The kid's mom came through the gate about that time and said "oh did you jump in the deep end" and laughed. To this day I wonder if she has any idea, if her son ever told her how close he came...

Said all that to say this: it could happen in a flash.
__________________
The Magic KIMdom
That's the happy place inside my head

JKMJ441724 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 01:51 PM   #55
maxiesmom
The Mean Squinty Eye Works Wonders
 
maxiesmom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: The West side of the mitten
Posts: 21,793

Quote:
Originally Posted by TDC Nala View Post
People can drown in 3 feet of water too.

Lifeguards are not present at the value resorts (probably other resorts too) after a certain time, but they do not close the pool. Guests swim at their own risk when the lifeguards are off duty.
The news article said it was around 9 pm. I'm almost positive that when we have stayed at a value resort the lifeguards didn't leave until 10 pm. Unless that depends on the time of year?

What else is giving me the chills is that post just the other day by someone who wanted to send their kids off to the pool, without an adult along, for a little while. I hope they see this and re-think that plan.
__________________
maxiesmom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 02:00 PM   #56
ccgirl
DIS Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Cape Cod, MA
Posts: 7,458

Another reminder why not to dive head first too. Again, not saying that is what happened here. But, tragic accidents like this should not be in vain. My mom worked in a nursing home where they treated children. Several children were there that dove head first into shallow water, broke their neck, and were quadraplegic. I don't even let my DD10 (a competivie swimmer) dive in head first in shallow water. Too easy to have an accident happen. Dive too far and you can break your neck. Yes, I realize accidents can happen and children don't always listen.
__________________
MEDH37DD7DS2
May 1 - May 8 2010 BWV Trip Report http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2466128
Dec 2 - Dec 12 2010 ASMo and Marriott Harbour Lake
Pre-Trip Report http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2503063
Oct 2011 - F&W AKL and BCV
May 2012 - HGVC SeaWorld
ccgirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 02:04 PM   #57
MommaBearof4
Earning My Ears
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 53

This poor family is going through their worst nightmare right now. They are probably blaming themselves. "Why didn't we notice sooner?" "Why weren't we closer? After? Why did we go swimming at all?" Let's stop blaming them and send them some positive thoughts. It could happen to anyone. Unfortunately it happened to them.
MommaBearof4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 02:16 PM   #58
si-am
DIS Veteran
 
si-am's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,577

Quote:
Originally Posted by maxiesmom View Post
The news article said it was around 9 pm. I'm almost positive that when we have stayed at a value resort the lifeguards didn't leave until 10 pm. Unless that depends on the time of year?

What else is giving me the chills is that post just the other day by someone who wanted to send their kids off to the pool, without an adult along, for a little while. I hope they see this and re-think that plan.
The lifeguards at AoA left at 8pm last week when I was there.
__________________
ºOº
si-am is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 02:28 PM   #59
NHTikiBeckie
DIS Veteran
 
NHTikiBeckie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Portsmouth, NH
Posts: 1,801

Quote:
Originally Posted by MommaBearof4 View Post
This poor family is going through their worst nightmare right now. They are probably blaming themselves. "Why didn't we notice sooner?" "Why weren't we closer? After? Why did we go swimming at all?" Let's stop blaming them and send them some positive thoughts. It could happen to anyone. Unfortunately it happened to them.
__________________


Disney World videos I made!

http://vimeo.com/7316001 (MGM & Animal Kingdom)

http://vimeo.com/7315073 (Epcot)

http://vimeo.com/7316111 (Magic Kingdom)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjHXWMp1uhI (Christmas and Fun outside the parks)
NHTikiBeckie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2013, 02:31 PM   #60
TDC Nala
1937, what a year that was
Diet Coke on Ice or Else
I apparently don't do anything they want to stimulate
 
TDC Nala's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Not far enough outside the Beltway
Posts: 58,870
DISboards Moderator

Quote:
Originally Posted by maxiesmom View Post
The news article said it was around 9 pm. I'm almost positive that when we have stayed at a value resort the lifeguards didn't leave until 10 pm. Unless that depends on the time of year?

What else is giving me the chills is that post just the other day by someone who wanted to send their kids off to the pool, without an adult along, for a little while. I hope they see this and re-think that plan.
This boy's father was with him. But I could see why parental supervision seems like a good idea at pools for kids or young teens, was the poster's kid under 16?
__________________
TDC Nala is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
drowning, pop



Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

facebooktwitterpinterestgoogle plusyoutubeDIS Updates
GET OUR DIS UPDATES DELIVERED BY EMAIL



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:25 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Copyright © 1997-2014, Werner Technologies, LLC. All Rights Reserved.

You Rated this Thread: