Ship vs Boat

[lbgraves]

Originally Posted by PizzieDuster

Tonyas Skipper, is it called portside because that's how you enter the SHIP upon embarkation and does it stay that side the entire cruise? Or does it depends on docking. Then what's the other side called?

We boarded on the starboard side of the ship in LA and Vancouver.

I did google and found that originally it did have something to do with which side was docked to the port.

Port is derived from the practice of sailors mooring ships on the left side at ports in order to prevent the steering oar from being crushed.

The word starboard comes from Old English steorbord, literally meaning the side on which the ship is steered

[MrsKP]

Originally Posted by Bonniec

My confusion was because so many people talk about when Disney had the Big Red Boat and to my knowledge, Premier owned that, not Disney. Since we went on that ship, I was curious.

As to 3 pages of threads arguing over the difference between a ship and a boat....
A. I think most people understand the difference, it's fairly obvious
And
B. I could care less what someone calls it....so I will bow out of the thread. I was just curious about the Big Red Boat comment

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LOL!! I was wondering why I was reading pages arguing about the term!?!? I remember working in the magic kingdom & the Big Red Boat. Was so excited when Disney came in and took over the boat! Also known as a ship

[Tonka's Skipper]

Originally Posted by PizzieDuster

Tonyas Skipper, is it called portside because that's how you enter the SHIP upon embarkation and does it stay that side the entire cruise? Or does it depends on docking. Then what's the other side called?

Today what ever side of the vessel is to the dock is called *Port side to* or Starboard side to*, meaning to the dock.


Ships have had the same names for the sides for thousands of years........when facing forward, the right side is Starboard and the left side is port.

The names go way back to the small open boats in the med, these small ships were steered by a oar tied to the rear right side. The paddle part of the oar trailed in the water and was shifted left and right to steer the ship.

They usually docked with the left side, *port* to the dock and the right side *starboard* or steering side to the sea/water. They rarely docked starboard side to the dock, becuase they did not want to damage the steering oar.


AKK

[Bonniec]

Originally Posted by MrsKP

LOL!! I was wondering why I was reading pages arguing about the term!?!? I remember working in the magic kingdom & the Big Red Boat. Was so excited when Disney came in and took over the boat! Also known as a ship

Okay so Disney did own it? Lol

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[Tonka's Skipper]

Originally Posted by lbgraves

We boarded on the starboard side of the ship in LA and Vancouver.

I did google and found that originally it did have something to do with which side was docked to the port.

Soory Ib...I missed this, you already had the answer......AKK

[PizzieDuster]

Thanks guys...google is my friend, I sometimes forget to visit her

[MrsKP]

Originally Posted by Bonniec

Okay so Disney did own it? Lol

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No! Sorry, I was being sarcastic. Many visitors would do both MK then go on the BRB. Disney saw an opportunity.

[TLSnell1981]

Originally Posted by Tonka's Skipper

Actual that is what I sail in now, a 1954 chris craft......BOAT.

AKK


AKK

Now, that is a nice boat.. I love the fact, she's been in the family so long. DFIL gave DBIL his boat, but the dummy sold her...

[anniemck]

Disney characters started sailing with Premier to make up the niche of WDW cruises/land vacations since people were doing that anyway. This helped Premier stay above water for a while so to speak.
Once Disney started their own line, Premier partnered with Looney Toons and had their characters on the ships.

Premier eventually sold off their ships, which they had originally bought from other lines *mostly carnival owned lines, and went bankrupt in 2000.

Several lines went under after 9/11 and the cruise market has never been the same.

[truck1]

Originally Posted by Bonniec

My confusion was because so many people talk about when Disney had the Big Red Boat and to my knowledge, Premier owned that, not Disney. Since we went on that ship, I was curious.

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No problem. Sorry if I missed your question, but yes, in the begining, the BRB was owned by Premeier, and was under contract with Disney to provide characters etc.

When the contract was up, disney had 3 options.
1. Get out of the cruise business totally
2. Extend the contract.
3. Start there own line.

I think we know what the answer was.

[phinz]

Originally Posted by Tonka's Skipper

Ships have had the same names for the sides for thousands of years........when facing forward, the right side is Starboard and the left side is port.

The names go way back to the small open boats in the med, these small ships were steered by a oar tied to the rear right side. The paddle part of the oar trailed in the water and was shifted left and right to steer the ship.

They usually docked with the left side, *port* to the dock and the right side *starboard* or steering side to the sea/water. They rarely docked starboard side to the dock, becuase they did not want to damage the steering oar.


AKK

Don't forget the use of larboard as well, which is the opposite of starboard (or port to most of us).

[mmouse37]

Closing this