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Old 03-19-2013, 10:47 AM   #76
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I buy my Barney Butter at Whole Foods, but it is also available online.
We have a whole foods fairly near by so I will stop there and check it out. Thanks again for another option for me.
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Almond butter sounds really nice! It would go fantastically with chocolate spread.
Unfortunately chocolate spread is not an option for me due to it containing milk.
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Old 03-19-2013, 11:15 AM   #78
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Unfortunately chocolate spread is not an option for me due to it containing milk.
Aww, that's too bad. I know there's dairy free chocolate, they should make a dairy free chocolate spread.
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I really wonder, why don't you hear more about research to cure or find out the cause for these allergies? Is there a foundation?

I'm hypoglycemic and always fly with snacks - peanut butter crackers and a peanut-free (and low protein) option. When I've been on a plane and it is a peanut-free flight, I eat the peanut free option. But it is hard when my sugar level crashes and I can't eat my snack with protein. The other snack brings my blood sugar up, but it drops again without protein. I also have food allergies and a lot of the non-refrigerated protein sources make me sick for days so PB is my best option. But I avoid it so someone else doesn't suffer.

I do have life-threatening allergies to non-food items and have gone in to anaphylactic shock a couple times. It isn't fun. I often think about if my rights to a safe breathing environment trumps someone else's rights. I don't have an answer.

But I don't think arguing about whose rights trump whose are going to get us anywhere. The root cause of the allergies needs to be discovered, as well as a cure, and we should spend our energy lobbying for that instead of fighting on the Dis. OP I'm glad you got suggestions to help you.
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I have seen studies where a peanut allergic child is fed increasing amounts of peanut flour to desensitize them. I believe they start with a minuscule amount and slowly increase the dosage. Not sure how sensitive the child can be for those treatment.
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Old 04-03-2013, 12:13 AM   #81
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I remember once on a Southwest flight that they announced that they wouldn't be serving snacks of any kind because there was a person with a severe allergy and everything's been processed in a place with peanuts and for people to please not open/eat anything with peanuts for safety reasons. I heard quite a few people grumbling because there's a store in Midway airport that apparently has good nuts, but otherwise everything went well.
I think that was us. I flew out of Chicago Midway with my daughter who has had multiple anaphylactic reactions to traces of 4 foods, including peanuts. The flight attendant watched me wipe off every surface with wipes that my daughter might touch and then sit with 4 Epi Pens and albuterol on my lap. They had assured me earlier that they had already arranged not to serve peanuts on the flight. SW's backup snack, though, does contain traces of peanuts. I never said a word about their backup snack, but the flight attendants announced that no snacks would be served because of a passenger with severe peanut allergies, my daughter. Loud grumbles erupted. The flight attendant quieted the protesters sitting directly behind my daughter when she explained that they simply didn't want to have to make an emergency landing. I can appreciate simply reacting, but I also was quite touched that some of the loudest protesters who complained to the flight attendant did soon piece together that they were talking about passenger at issue was the small girl with her seat encased in a pink crib sheet directly in front of them. I was touched that they then seemed to go to lengths to express sensitivity and compassion to her and me. SW won my heart that day.

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I really wonder, why don't you hear more about research to cure or find out the cause for these allergies? Is there a foundation? .....
You might find this recent story in the NYT Magazine of interest:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/10/ma...anted=all&_r=0
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You might find this recent story in the NYT Magazine of interest:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/10/ma...anted=all&_r=0
I read that and thought it was great! Thanks for posting the link!
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The flight did serve snacks. And I'm sorry if they had only brought pb&j along for their child, but if so they shouldn't have fed it to them. Better their child go hungry than risk a passenger have a mid air emergency, and the plane be forced to land. They are fortunate it didn't come to that.
Sorry but I disagree. If it's a long flight and that is all I brought for my child then guess what my kid is going to eat.
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I am sorry other people having disabilities and needs and rights is such a problem for you. I can see that the idea makes you very angry.

Unfortunately, other people exist and they matter too. Yes, even if you have a peanut allergy. I won't even comment on your cracks about autism. Some things are just too ugly to respond too.
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The flight did serve snacks. And I'm sorry if they had only brought pb&j along for their child, but if so they shouldn't have fed it to them. Better their child go hungry than risk a passenger have a mid air emergency, and the plane be forced to land. They are fortunate it didn't come to that.
Then people would have complained about the child crying and being in a bad mood because of hunger. Complete strangers lives shouldn't be altered because of someone else's food allergy. I think expecting someone to allow their child to go hungry is crossing a line.
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Because the rules of the provider allow the child with autism to be accommodated easily and do not allow the peanut-allergy sufferer to control what other people eat. We accommodate the person who complies with the rules, minds their own business and doesn't infringe on anyone else's rights.

When two needs conflict, someone loses out. There is no way to set up the world to accommodate everybody. That autistic kid can't demand that nobody shout in line for example, or that the one effect on Fantasmic that freaks him out be shut off for the showing he attends. Other kids have the right to make noise and live their lives and if the disabled kid can't cope, the disabled kid loses.

If flying on a plane with other people minding their own business and obeying the rules could KILL my kid... I cannot imagine what would be worth me taking that risk. I have a potentially fatal cigarette smoke allergy myself and if a place allows smoking I don't go there. My "right" to insist that nobody smoke where smoking is allowed is allowed is not something I am comfortable risking my life on, nor do I feel that it's responsible to place that in someone else's hands. The idea that I would get on a flight that allowed smoking is simply utterly outside my scope of reasonable. "Everyone should just not smoke for 6 hours" is not a good plan to keep me alive.
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DD has a very good friend that's father is a SW pilot. I saw him last night and had the chance to ask him about this whole 'peanut' situation. He said they will not serve them, but they will NOT stop someone else from consuming them. They will ask, but if the other party wants to consume a peanut product, they cannot and will not stop them as they are within their rights to do so. The allergic party has the right to fly another flight or not fly at all. SW will NOT guarantee a peanut free environment. It is up to the pilot as to who gets to stay on the plane!
This is from a SW pilot who has been with the company for 12 years. I'm going with his word. Now I can't speak for other airlines, but if you are that allergic to peanuts, SW appears not be the airline for you. Not saying that to pick a fight, but because it is their policy.
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Southwest airlines (and the others) put that info in their Contract of Carriage to minimize the possibility for law suits.
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Nobody has said or even suggested at any point that the airlines will ban peanuts for one person. The only issue is people saying it would be nice if people considered others and then other people are arguing that they don't want to be considerate because they only care about their own needs.
So yes, you are completely right that the policy saying you can do it, but that doesn't mean that you aren't being a jerk if somebody politely asks you to not eat one specific item for one specific snack and your response is you would rather risk their life than be nice about it. (actually specifically needing peanuts not included, and that situation is so extremely rare it is far more uncommon than a person with an allergy) Once you have even read about this issue, you know better. You do, pretending you don't is just naive.

Seriously, there is no way for a reasonable person to argue that. If you even to argue that, read it again because you aren't reading it before trying to argue.

If you have a sensory issue and ask me not to stand within 4" of you, I have a right to stand there if I want to. If I have no need to stand that close but do anyways, I am still being a jerk even though I am right. Very similar issue. If you KNOW you may hurt somebody and you don't need the peanuts, that's just mean. Whether or not it's legal, whether or not it's against policy, it's mean.

Because it's being dragged up again, I did not take a crack at autism. I commented on what the PP said about her own daughter and she was so busy being defensive she was offended by her own situation.
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