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Old 03-02-2013, 01:06 PM   #31
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Back in 2000 DCL had announced internally that they were building 2 new ships. Right after 911 the idea was scrapped. The plans still exist. The Dream class is a hybrid of the Magic class and the unnamed class. The inbetween un named class was to be bigger then the Magic but smaller then the Dream . DCL also has options to build 2 more add on ships of the Dream class. This came from Joe Lacisero who actually designed the Dream class and spoke on the inaugural of the Fantasy. Bob Iger was also there and during the qa basically said no new ships until they get a feel for the market and how DCL as a whole is doing. I wouldn't expect any new DCL ships for at least another year or two. At least the annoucement.
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Old 03-02-2013, 03:33 PM   #32
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i've only been on the Dream once, but it felt much less stable to me than the Wonder....
did anyone else have that experience?

for the above reason, i'd be happy to see them take a bit off the height of any new ships they build (or make it even wider to more offset the height)...
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Old 03-02-2013, 04:00 PM   #33
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I hope that if/when Disney builds more ships they will go with the classic line to replace the Magic/Wonder. Personally I prefer the smaller, less crowded feel of the original ships.
I'm with you. If DCL ever "improves" themselves out of having Magic class or similar size/quality ships, they've lost my business. I can get the crowds, lines, and general chaos of an amusement park at Disneyland for much cheaper than what they ask for on the Dream and Fantasy, plus no airfare costs.
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Old 03-02-2013, 04:16 PM   #34
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i've only been on the Dream once, but it felt much less stable to me than the Wonder....
did anyone else have that experience?

for the above reason, i'd be happy to see them take a bit off the height of any new ships they build (or make it even wider to more offset the height)...
Having been on both the Magic class ships and the Fantasy I don't see any real difference in stability. What will make things seem different is the sea state and how the ships are orientated to it.
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Old 03-02-2013, 04:27 PM   #35
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DLC need to come out with the Walmart policy....."we will match prices".........don't you think?
Absolutely Not!! AT the risk of sounding elitist, keeping the prices where they are helps to ensure that the stereotypical booze cruise value crowd keeps to other lower-priced lines. I prefer the more refined, family-friendly clientele I usually see on DCL.
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Old 03-02-2013, 04:30 PM   #36
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We're just off of the Magic yesterday. On the last evening of our cruise, Austin told our party that Disney had given the OK to crew members to confirm the rumors that Disney is adding two new ships to her fleet. I hadn't heard this rumor. Does anyone know more about this? I asked Austin what the timeline was or if he knew where they might be placed, and he couldn't say for sure. I'd heard nothing about this prior to talking to him, but I'm sure someone on here could shed some light...?
I did some research and I believe this rumor is true. They say that the new ships will be named... (wait for it)... Dream and Fantasy. LOL
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Having met Austin and talked to him on our cruise a couple of weeks ago, I would say his confirming a rumor could be true, or it could be him just teasing. He has a really dry sense of humor when you talk with him. Only once did I get him to say something to me in a serious tone, and even then I wasn't sure if he was truly serious or just kidding.
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Old 03-02-2013, 06:25 PM   #38
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i've only been on the Dream once, but it felt much less stable to me than the Wonder....
Same route, or different? The crossing of the Gulf stream out of Port Canaveral is one of the 'rougher' rides in the normal cruise rotations...obviously it's nothing to compare to something like the Drake Passage, but if you compare Dream out of Orlando to an Inside Passage route to Alaska on Wonder, the 'feel' of Dream is going to be less stable. That's not the ship, though, it's the route.
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I asked Austin what the timeline was or if he knew where they might be placed, and he couldn't say for sure.
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Absolutely Not!! AT the risk of sounding elitist, keeping the prices where they are helps to ensure that the stereotypical booze cruise value crowd keeps to other lower-priced lines. I prefer the more refined, family-friendly clientele I usually see on DCL.
Elitist or not - this is exactly why we chose DCL for our very first cruise - we are cruising with our three year old and didn't want a party ship. I know other cruise lines offer kids activities too but when it came down to it we figured this would be the better for for us.

PS - sailing in the Dream in May but looking forward to trying an older ship based on the love for them expressed here.
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we heard this last May when we were on the Fantasy.

someone else said Disney needs permission first at the ship yard to build the ships... doesnt mean they actually will.

I hope they do, I enjoy sailing on different ships!!
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Absolutely Not!! AT the risk of sounding elitist, keeping the prices where they are helps to ensure that the stereotypical booze cruise value crowd keeps to other lower-priced lines. I prefer the more refined, family-friendly clientele I usually see on DCL.
Problem is, that family clientele belongs to the upper-middle to upper class at Disney's current prices. And on both my Disney cruises, it didn't make them all that more "refined".

Competition is good for business and the consumer. It wouldn't hurt the company to broaden out. As it is, the lower prices on the classics--while not that much cheaper--seem to be allowing more folks who couldn't afford DCL the chance to try out the line. And impressed customers will come back for more, and will likely be willing to pay more for newer product. As it is, as much as I adore and prefer DCL, my family just can't afford the Fantasy. For the same itinerary on a relatively new ship on RCCL, I can get a jr. suite for $1K less on the same sail date. My family wants to treat my nephew for his HS graduation next year--but as much as we want it to be Disney, we can't afford it. We're going to Alaska this year for the same price.
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Old 03-02-2013, 08:31 PM   #43
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we heard this last May when we were on the Fantasy.

someone else said Disney needs permission first at the ship yard to build the ships... doesnt mean they actually will.

I hope they do, I enjoy sailing on different ships!!
They won't need the shipyard permission. All DCL would have to do is to call and say we are exercising our option for 1 or 2 ships then take a number in line. Meyer has a few ships in the line now. I think at least 2 for NCL and 2 for RCL not counting Aida.
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I think it may be possible that DCL has Imagineer designed plans and they may start talking with shipyards now. But even if they are starting the process now, it'll be about 5 years... I remember an interview right after the Fantasy was launched and they said that DCl has blueprints for more ships but were going to wait until they got a good feeling about the Fantasy before they build another...

Besides the magic and wonder, DCL uses Imagineers to design ships and interior spaces, then hands off the designs to the shipyard who will have an actual naval architect look at the designs and make changes as necessary, Moving a pole here, making the superstructure narrower, etc.

In short, I could see DCl starting conversations with shipyards, but ships are many years off...
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I remember reading that Disney had the OPTION to build 2 more ships at the shipyard where the Dream and Fantasy were built.

That doesn't mean they'll use the option.
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