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Old 02-23-2013, 10:33 AM   #1
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Tradition vs Change

I'm usually for change and the new, but sometimes keeping a tradition is more important. And in my opinion having the Main Street Bakery is more important then having a Starbucks ON MAIN STREET. I understand that $$$ rules all decisons at WDW, but I wish the "Bean-Counters" would sometimes take into consideration what makes actual sense over financial sense.

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Old 02-23-2013, 10:37 AM   #2
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So, you would like to keep with the tradition of having a Nestle shop on Main Street?
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:40 AM   #3
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This topic has been exhausted. They will incorporate Main Street theming into the Starbucks. The location will still have many of the fave bakery items. WDW has consistently had corporate sponsors ever since its been open. Just look more closely. Coca Cola, Edys, Orville Redenbacher, Kodak, McDonalds. You name it. You don't always notice because they blend it in quite well. This newest project will be no different. It's not going to be the same Starbucks that you see in the real world. Just give them a chance. They may surprise you.
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:09 PM   #4
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This topic has been exhausted. They will incorporate Main Street theming into the Starbucks. The location will still have many of the fave bakery items. WDW has consistently had corporate sponsors ever since its been open. Just look more closely. Coca Cola, Edys, Orville Redenbacher, Kodak, McDonalds. You name it. You don't always notice because they blend it in quite well. This newest project will be no different. It's not going to be the same Starbucks that you see in the real world. Just give them a chance. They may surprise you.
Don't have a problem with Starbucks, just where it will be. The idea/concept of Main Street USA is how things were at Turn of the century 1900's when Walt was a child. And you have/had a bakery, an Ice Cream parlor, a Soda-Pop Eatery and a Store/Clothing Emporium. All them have remained true to their themes even by incorporating some of todays modern things. Now that is changing. The main street Bakery Presented by Starbucks serving Starbucks coffee would be fine, but just a plain starbucks even featuring some of the Main Street Bakery items isn't the same. Just my opinion.
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:15 PM   #5
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Don't have a problem with Starbucks, just where it will be. The idea/concept of Main Street USA is how things were at Turn of the century 1900's when Walt was a child. And you have/had a bakery, an Ice Cream parlor, a Soda-Pop Eatery and a Store/Clothing Emporium. All them have remained true to their themes even by incorporating some of todays modern things. Now that is changing. The main street Bakery Presented by Starbucks serving Starbucks coffee would be fine, but just a plain starbucks even featuring some of the Main Street Bakery items isn't the same. Just my opinion.
It's not going to be "just a pain starbucks".
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:18 PM   #6
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Don't have a problem with Starbucks, just where it will be. The idea/concept of Main Street USA is how things were at Turn of the century 1900's when Walt was a child. And you have/had a bakery, an Ice Cream parlor, a Soda-Pop Eatery and a Store/Clothing Emporium. All them have remained true to their themes even by incorporating some of todays modern things. Now that is changing. The main street Bakery Presented by Starbucks serving Starbucks coffee would be fine, but just a plain starbucks even featuring some of the Main Street Bakery items isn't the same. Just my opinion.
Yeah but, Walt hasn't been on this earth since 1966 so no one knows what he would have wanted. It's like asking WWJD? No one knows.

Some will say Walt would have had alcohol in the Magic Kingdom way before Be Our Guest. Some say Walt is spinning in his grave. It's all just a matter of opinion. For me, I don't care. I never went to the Bakery before, I won't now either. Don't really eat that stuff and I have never had a cup of coffee in my life. Way too many other things to see and do at Disney World than obsess over one shop and what may or may not happen.
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My problem is Starbucks! YUCK! Dunkin Donuts and I'd be all over it.
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:39 PM   #8
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Don't have a problem with Starbucks, just where it will be. The idea/concept of Main Street USA is how things were at Turn of the century 1900's when Walt was a child. And you have/had a bakery, an Ice Cream parlor, a Soda-Pop Eatery and a Store/Clothing Emporium. All them have remained true to their themes even by incorporating some of todays modern things. Now that is changing. The main street Bakery Presented by Starbucks serving Starbucks coffee would be fine, but just a plain starbucks even featuring some of the Main Street Bakery items isn't the same. Just my opinion.
Why oh why are people so quick to congratulate Disney on the way it successfully incorporates acceptable themeing of other corporate sponsors but are just as quick to assume that Disney cannot or will not successfully incorporate turn of the century themeing into the MSB as it begins to serve Starbucks coffee?

Trust in the fact that Disney "gets it". I promise that there isn't a single executive who is planning on having the MSB look like a 2013 Starbucks across the street from Casey's and the Crystal Palace. Not a one.
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Why oh why are people so quick to congratulate Disney on the way it successfully incorporates acceptable themeing of other corporate sponsors but are just as quick to assume that Disney cannot or will not successfully incorporate turn of the century themeing into the MSB as it begins to serve Starbucks coffee?

Trust in the fact that Disney "gets it". I promise that there isn't a single executive who is planning on having the MSB look like a 2013 Starbucks across the street from Casey's and the Crystal Palace. Not a one.
Exactly. And how about holding off on the howls of indignation and moaning over the death of Main Street theming until the place has actually reopened and we can see how well or poorly the change has been handled? These guys know what they're doing- they've been doing it for a few years now.
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Exactly. And how about holding off on the howls of indignation and moaning over the death of Main Street theming until the place has actually reopened and we can see how well or poorly the change has been handled? These guys know what they're doing- they've been doing it for a few years now.
Agree! We've always been huge Main Street Bakery fans but I have to say that our family is looking forward to giving this a try. We are hoping the change goes well.
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Exactly. And how about holding off on the howls of indignation and moaning over the death of Main Street theming until the place has actually reopened and we can see how well or poorly the change has been handled? These guys know what they're doing- they've been doing it for a few years now.
I look no further then what has happened at Pleasure Island to draw my thoughts on "These guys know what they're doing--they've been doing it for a few years now.
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I look no further then what has happened at Pleasure Island to draw my thoughts on "These guys know what they're doing--they've been doing it for a few years now.
No reasonable person would draw that correlation.
As stated by a PP, this has been discussed to death.
Let's wait and see.
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I look no further then what has happened at Pleasure Island to draw my thoughts on "These guys know what they're doing--they've been doing it for a few years now.
Apples and oranges. At PI, Disney decided that it wanted to get out of the nightclub business and ceded that market to City Walk. This is about corporate themeing. Disney did fine incorporating Sara Lee, Carnation, Edy's, Nestle, Minute Maid, Tropicana, Sealtest, Coke and many others with nary a whimper. But we should declare Satrbucks to be an abject failure before it opens? Again...why?
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Trust in the fact that Disney "gets it". I promise that there isn't a single executive who is planning on having the MSB look like a 2013 Starbucks across the street from Casey's and the Crystal Palace. Not a one.
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It's not going to be the same Starbucks that you see in the real world. Just give them a chance. They may surprise you.
This so much. Just take a look at Fiddler, Fifer & Practical Cafe in Disneyland. It's not a Starbucks, it's Fiddler, Fifer & Practical Cafe that sells Starbucks. Big difference.
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Apples and oranges. At PI, Disney decided that it wanted to get out of the nightclub business and ceded that market to City Walk. This is about corporate themeing. Disney did fine incorporating Sara Lee, Carnation, Edy's, Nestle, Minute Maid, Tropicana, Sealtest, Coke and many others with nary a whimper. But we should declare Satrbucks to be an abject failure before it opens? Again...why?
Great comment and that is what I was trying to get across in my earlier post. People just need to chill and let Disney do what they do best. They're not going to ruin Main Street. Walt was all for progress and none of us know if this is a project he would have embraced. It is everyone's best guess! But I know Disney will do a great job blending things in.
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