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Old 09-10-2012, 08:29 PM   #1
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Chicago Public Schools/Teachers Strike.......

So who is going to Disney!!!????
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Old 09-12-2012, 12:31 AM   #2
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I would, but I have to work. Wish I could "have some fun" like Karen Lewis told her people.

I'm also sure that the make-up days will conflict with our scheduled trip.
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Old 09-12-2012, 12:47 AM   #3
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Not sure this is a good topic for me to comment (but yet I do!). As someone who has lived through a strike and saw the damage done to a community from teachers going on strike (in IL... albeit not CPS), I'll be limiting what I say on this topic. This is a very touchy subject for some of us. Nonetheless, we love Disney. And a Disney vacation is good anytime regardless of where you fall on the political spectrum!
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Old 09-12-2012, 01:42 AM   #4
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Not sure this is a good topic for me to comment (but yet I do!). As someone who has lived through a strike and saw the damage done to a community from teachers going on strike (in IL... albeit not CPS), I'll be limiting what I say on this topic. This is a very touchy subject for some of us. Nonetheless, we love Disney. And a Disney vacation is good anytime regardless of where you fall on the political spectrum!
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Old 09-12-2012, 08:13 AM   #5
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Well, you wouldn't even have to write that "Disney is an educational experience!" excuse letter to the Principal.

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Old 09-12-2012, 08:49 AM   #6
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I only ask for one thing:

Stop calling it Children First! Leave my children out of it, itís all about the power & control, not children. Everyone knows it, no one will admit to it.

It kinds of reminds me of Medieval Times, when they used people tied around the Castle Rams as a shield.

Now, lets go Disney!
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Old 09-12-2012, 09:51 AM   #7
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Angry that our lives are at the mercy of this strike. Original question was (sort of) tongue and cheek but would consider WDW if we knew how long this would last. With regard to make up days interfering with other vacations or plans, the schools are going to have to deal with that. I hope nobody considers changing those. Rahm and CTU are both stubborn (no matter which side you support, it is a fact). I don't hold out much hope that this will be resolved soon. It IS our kids and families who are suffering. I resent the "this is about the kids" speech.
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Angry that our lives are at the mercy of this strike. Original question was (sort of) tongue and cheek but would consider WDW if we knew how long this would last. With regard to make up days interfering with other vacations or plans, the schools are going to have to deal with that. I hope nobody considers changing those. Rahm and CTU are both stubborn (no matter which side you support, it is a fact). I don't hold out much hope that this will be resolved soon. It IS our kids and families who are suffering. I resent the "this is about the kids" speech.
I hear you. Our district was on strike for a month a few years ago. Spring break was shortened to a long weekend and we had already booked a Disney Vero Beach trip before the strike. We still went. Strikes are just such a lose-lose situation. It really stinks.
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Old 09-12-2012, 11:37 PM   #9
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I hear you. Our district was on strike for a month a few years ago. Spring break was shortened to a long weekend and we had already booked a Disney Vero Beach trip before the strike. We still went. Strikes are just such a lose-lose situation. It really stinks.
It's official. We will be into day four of the strike tomorrow.....
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:19 AM   #10
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I grew up in Kansas City and there was a teacher's strike for the last 6 weeks of my senior year (1974). State law did not allow public employees to strike, yet the unions were determined to make their stand. At the time, the representatives of the school boards seemed so reasonable and the AFT frightened us with their power to deny us access to our schools. It was a time of conflict for children and parents who felt abandoned by the educators we admired and respected. I should have looked at the situation through mature eyes, after all, I turned 18 during the strike but it was a time of turmoil for over 50,000 students.

We all survived (actually, the school system fared poorly in the long-run) but I made my first trip to WDW after my sophomore year in college, so all was well.
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Old 09-13-2012, 06:33 AM   #11
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I remember when teacher starting salaries were $16,000 a year, and it wasn't that long ago and there were a tenth of the administrators there are today. Adequate pay and good benefits came about because of the union. I'm sure the teachers wouldn't be screwing up their own vacations if they didn't think this was important. They have kids, too, sometimes in other districts, and extending the school year will cause them to have to seek childcare and miss vacations. I wish them luck. Stand strong!
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I remember when teacher starting salaries were $16,000 a year, and it wasn't that long ago and there were a tenth of the administrators there are today. Adequate pay and good benefits came about because of the union. I'm sure the teachers wouldn't be screwing up their own vacations if they didn't think this was important. They have kids, too, sometimes in other districts, and extending the school year will cause them to have to seek childcare and miss vacations. I wish them luck. Stand strong!
Touchy subject and probably very prone into getting political, but the strike really has nothing to do with pay. They've already agreed to a 4% raise per year over the next four years and Chicago Public teachers average over $70k in salary.

They are mostly fighting over the evaluation system for terminating poorly performing employees although that pretty much gets lost in the massive grandstanding and "I only care about the KIDS" from both sides.

They are saying there is a good chance an agreement will be reached today. Fingers crossed for all who are dealing with this. I saw the footage yesterday and was REAL glad I didn't have to go anywhere near those crowds.
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They are saying there is a good chance an agreement will be reached today. ...
Keep wondering if these words turned the upper hand in the negotiation, I'd never expect such a quick change from hitting a brick wall to "We're getting to the point where, you know, that it definitely should be possible" within several hours:

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... "I've got to go back to the silly part of my day. ... Y'all continue to have fun. Show each other some love."...
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I only ask for one thing:

Stop calling it Children First! Leave my children out of it, itís all about the power & control, not children. Everyone knows it, no one will admit to it.

It kinds of reminds me of Medieval Times, when they used people tied around the Castle Rams as a shield.

Now, lets go Disney!
Living in Pennsylvania I feel like we are the Teacher Strike capital of the US, and what you've written has always been my major gripe about it.

Most recently a recent district did the whole, "Children First" slogan, and, yet, they had walked out based around paid prep periods and benefits. How, exactly does that have anything to do with the students?
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Living in Pennsylvania I feel like we are the Teacher Strike capital of the US, and what you've written has always been my major gripe about it.

Most recently a recent district did the whole, "Children First" slogan, and, yet, they had walked out based around paid prep periods and benefits. How, exactly does that have anything to do with the students?
It doesn't! It is just an excuse. I am a firm believer that public sector jobs should have no unions!

The kids are the ones losing and they are losing big time.


FYI, most social workers are evaluated on outcomes they have no control over, they work horrible hours and take work home ..... Just wanted to put that out there.
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