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Old 02-16-2013, 06:53 PM   #1
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Parents who don't control their children--a vent

OK, I am seriously not usually a venter or a ranter, but I just got back from my son's Blue and Gold for Cub Scouts and OMG!!!!! Seriously?

There were children running around like crazies, talking during the program, screaming during the program, turning lights on and off, banging on doors, going in places they weren't supposed to...I was ready to scream. It made the event so unenjoyable, which is shame because it's a special day for my son and I want to go for him....but I don't know if I can do that again (which I say every year and then I suck it up and go).

My son kept looking at me with a look of horror on his face saying "Mom, why are they doing that? Why don't they stop?" and my son is far far FAR from being an angel. I just do NOT understand how it does not embarrass and shame those parents for their children to act so inappropriately in a public forum.

Maybe I'm just old. Am I? Is polite behavior old fashioned? The guy at the Art Museum made a comment to me when I gave my kids "The Talk" (you know, quiet voices, no running, no touching, etc...) before we went into the exhibits that he never seems to hear mothers giving "The Talk" anymore. I just think polite behavior is something a parent should teach a child!

OK, I'm done, I need more aspirin.
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Old 02-16-2013, 06:56 PM   #2
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AMen momma. I've been to those functions and apparently, you are supposed to check your parental duties at the door. Now, I've seen that time and again at fuctions serving alcohol, but at a function SPECIFICALLY designed for children? It just floors me. It's rude and the children run around like untamed little animals with no respect for or regard to the venue or building they are are using.

Hardly seems like the type of behavior parents should be ignoring while they gnaw on their fried chicken and drink their koolaid.

I have never understood that mentality. It's like a free for all.
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Old 02-16-2013, 07:00 PM   #3
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I hear you. Kids this day. It's because you don't dare discipline them. I would take my daughter out if she acted up. I remember growing up. I had 7 siblings. My mother took everywhere. We never ask for anything, grabbed anything off a shelf or acted up. If so we got a hand on the rear-end. Nothing wrong with that.
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Old 02-16-2013, 07:03 PM   #4
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I'm with you.

It makes me crazy when parents make no effort to teach their kids how to behave.

Anyone can have a cranky kid, or a kid in mid meltdown. It can happen to any parent in any location at any time, and I have nothing but sympathy for both the child and his/her parents.

But it makes me crazy when parents see their kids hehaving badly and choose not to react. I feel for the kids. If they don't learn appropriate behavior young, when will they learn it?
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Old 02-16-2013, 07:10 PM   #5
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Old 02-16-2013, 07:11 PM   #6
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Boy, you just stated one of my biggest pet peeves. This is the same at WDW also, especially in restaurants. The parents say (even on some boards here) that they are just being kids - . Right, they are just being undisciplined, uncontrolled kids

Instead of the parents controlling the children, the children are controlling the parents and are leading them around by a ring in the nose. They can't bear to tell their little darlings no.

On the camping thread a poster was asking about noise in the CC, if there was a problem. They had 4 children, and they said they didn't want to constantly have to tell them to quieten down. Hope they understand quiet hours before they go.
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Old 02-16-2013, 07:31 PM   #7
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I am glad to know I am not the only one who feels that way, and I think Cub Scout events are some of the worst behaviors. It got so bad at our pack meetings that I would show up right as the meeting started and leave the moment it was over, and my DH was the cub master.
In the kids defense though most Cub Scout pack meetings (blue and Gold, Pinewood derby, etc) are really to long and boring to expect a bunch of 6-8 yr olds to sit quietly. I am a long time GS leader and a former elem school teacher, and I was constantly working on my DH to keep the pack meetings under an hour.
Then we moved and the new pack is even worse.
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Old 02-16-2013, 08:00 PM   #8
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I am glad to know I am not the only one who feels that way, and I think Cub Scout events are some of the worst behaviors. It got so bad at our pack meetings that I would show up right as the meeting started and leave the moment it was over, and my DH was the cub master.
In the kids defense though most Cub Scout pack meetings (blue and Gold, Pinewood derby, etc) are really to long and boring to expect a bunch of 6-8 yr olds to sit quietly. I am a long time GS leader and a former elem school teacher, and I was constantly working on my DH to keep the pack meetings under an hour.
Then we moved and the new pack is even worse.
When our DS started in Cubs (a number of years ago), the Blue & Gold was a madhouse. Finally the Packmaster told all of the dens that each den was responsibile for the behavior of their attendees. And any more problems would result in that particular den not being allowed to have anyone other than the boy involved and 1 parent attend. Boy, did things settle down!

We had a great Packmaster.
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Old 02-16-2013, 08:07 PM   #9
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One of the several reasons we are not a scouting family.
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Old 02-16-2013, 08:10 PM   #10
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I always wonder if out-of-control kids act that badly at home also. I assume they do. How do the parents stand it? I can't imagine living with kids that have no sense of respect or manners. You think they would learn to control them for their own sanity, if not for the rest of us!
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Old 02-16-2013, 08:15 PM   #11
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I've been a Girl Scout leader of a large troop since the girls were Daisies (they will bridge to Cadette this year). Did we have behavior challenges? Of course, but we pulled out the "Scouts don't behave this way" card and pulled them into control quickly.

It's so frustrating because I've tried to help multiple times and clearly the leaders don't want my help...at ALL. That said, I believe in Scouting and the character it builds, so I'll continue to put up with it and whine every so often.

Whether it's Scouts or going out to dinner, I still expect parents to instill proper behaviors in their kids.
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Old 02-16-2013, 08:16 PM   #12
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Not to mention that the second one of those little darlings gets hurt running around and messing with things they're not supposed to, the parents will sue so fast your head will spin. Many years ago, I was merchandising my product in an International Drive gift shop and a little darling started turning a spinning rack that had hooks with keychains hanging on it. He started spinning it so hard and violently that I told him to stop. He response to that was to stick his tongue out at me and spin it even harder until it turned over and landed on me. It ripped my t-shirt and shorts and left a huge bleeding welt down my back and buttock. The mother's response when the store manager said "Madame, look what your son has done to this lady!" was "My child could have been seriously hurt by that rack! You're just lucky he wasn't hurt or I would have sued you for everything you have!" and stomped out of the store. I was shocked and I wish I had called the police, but I'm not sure anything could have been done to her. There I am with one of my heinie-cheeks shining through the rip in my shorts and blood soaking into my teeshirt and all she cares about is the fact that her little darling MIGHT have been hurt. I was a lot meeker back then.....now I think I might have had to have a go-round with her right then and there.
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Old 02-16-2013, 08:22 PM   #13
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I am a scoutmaster and my boys are for the most part well behaved. They know that I won't tolerate unscout like behavior. The problem I had at one court of honor, which is the ceremony that the scouts receive their rank or merit badges. The boys plan and execute the COH and put a lot of work into it. I had siblings of the scouts that were running around and causing a disturbance, the senior patrol leader who is the scout in charge went over to them and asked them to sit down but the kids just started to argue with him. He asked for my help. I escorted the kids to the parents and told them that if they couldn't control their children they would have to leave and never attend another COR with the younger child. Never had another problem again.
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Old 02-16-2013, 08:24 PM   #14
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Far too many adults don't do the things adults are supposed to do. They don't keep their children under control, and as the past few years have shown, the concept of living within their financial means isn't on their bucket list either.
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Old 02-16-2013, 08:24 PM   #15
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Oh but the little dears are just expressing themselves , we wouldn't want to squash their self-esteem I have seen a couple of these kids in home environments and it wasn't pretty! It's like the parents are prisoners to the children, doing anything they can to keep them happy, because if they aren't watch out! My kids love to run around crazy, all kids do. As parents our job is to teach them that the behavior that is okay at the park isn't okay inside a building and certainly not during a program! I take my kids plenty of places where they can run around and be more wild, but they also know when they need to be quiet and sit nicely and listen (no matter how boring it may be )

I was watching a guilty pleasure the other night, Toddlers & Tiaras There was a 3 year old who would yell everything she wanted to say, and scream at the mom and hit at her. The mom looked in the camera and said that she doesn't get embarrassed by the girls behavior because she is still kind of little and it's still kind of cute OK mom, it's not going to be so cute at 6, but by then it will be a hard habit to break!
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