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Old 02-19-2013, 10:44 PM   #211
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Back of the fastpass.....it does say it. Guilty as charged, I am.

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Thank God the issue of a FP runner wasn't brought up, though. I would hate to think that Nontransferable meant my wife couldn't hand me her ticket in order to pick up a couple of FP for Space Mountain because I happen to be a faster walker than her.

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Old 02-19-2013, 11:00 PM   #212
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My wie and I typically rode TSMM between five and seven times per day, all but the first being with FPs.
Then I am impressed. We usually travel in June, are there at rope drop and head straight there. Get in the standby line and then get a FP once we get off. Most of the time, by the time it is time to use our FP, the FP are gone or are very late. The most FPs for TSMM we have ever gotten has been 2.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:08 PM   #213
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UNCFanatik, you never answered what you would do in these cases.
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If you found them in the ground, would you pick them up and throw them away so that no one else would use them?

Or how about you have already pulled your TSMM FP for the day and a CM offered you some more. Would you turn those down also?
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:25 PM   #214
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Then I am impressed. We usually travel in June, are there at rope drop and head straight there. Get in the standby line and then get a FP once we get off. Most of the time, by the time it is time to use our FP, the FP are gone or are very late. The most FPs for TSMM we have ever gotten has been 2.
You are doing it backwards, in my opinion.

Arrive at RD and stay on the CM's heals to the FP machine. Get FPs and ride using SB line. You will have twenty or thirty minutes until your FP return time. Go get a muffin. Exactly at your return time, get your second FP and then ride using your first FP. Enjoy your day, but be at the FP machine exactly at the moment when additional FPs can be obtained.
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:26 PM   #215
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UNCFanatik, you never answered what you would do in these cases.
I thought that we put that line of discussion to bed. It doesn't matter what he would do in those situations, because they will not be possible in the near future.
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Old 02-20-2013, 05:52 AM   #216
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It would reduce the number of people in the FP line for that time period by one. Therefore, it would make the SB line 'faster' by one person.
So what you are saying is that throwing out unused Fast passes will help the people in the stand by line move faster.

I don't see that. I'm not exactly sure of the ratio of cm's letting in fastpass users to standby users and I'm sure it varies depending on the ride but I remember hearing something like the ratio is 20 fastpass riders to 1 standby rider.

But the ques are always full of fast pass riders especially on TSM or other more popular rides. So if a few people don't show up because they threw away their fast passes, the people in the fastpass line will move through a little faster.

I still see no benefit for the standby people if there is a specific ratio for each ride.
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:34 AM   #217
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I am sure you would feel different if the rules were broken and you came out on the short end of the stick. You would be crying all the way to guest relations.
I would never cry to guest relations because all of the FPs for a ride were gone for the day. It happens, such is life. If it made that much of a difference to me that I'd make that kind of fuss over not getting a FP for a ride, I'd be there at rope drop and do that before anything else. If I didn't want to put the effort into doing that, that's my choice.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:19 AM   #218
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Hi all - this is our 10th trip to WDW but admittedly it's been a few years since we've been there - obviously FP rules have changed. Can someone clarify: if we make it to RD, and use FP's for certain attractions, and then let's say around 11 AM or 12 PM, we go to TSM or some other big attraction, is there a possibility that FP's will be COMPLETELY sold out on that attraction for the entire rest of the day?

I apologize if this is a redundant question but after reading 12+ pages I'm still not sure I "get it". Man - Disney was a lot easier to navigate years ago.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:26 AM   #219
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Hi all - this is our 10th trip to WDW but admittedly it's been a few years since we've been there -


1- obviously FP rules have changed.

Can someone clarify:

if we make it to RD, and use FP's for certain attractions, and then let's say around 11 AM or 12 PM, we go to TSM or some other big attraction,

2- is there a possibility that FP's will be COMPLETELY sold out on that attraction for the entire rest of the day?

I apologize if this is a redundant question but

3- after reading 12+ pages I'm still not sure I "get it". Man - Disney was a lot easier to navigate years ago.
1- Not by much.

2- Yes. But, that has always been the case with the mega-popular attractions, especially TSM and Soarin'.
What varies with the crowd-level is exactly WHEN the FP's can run out for the day.
However, that's nothing new.

3- The only change in FP rules is that now, guests must use their FP's within the one-hour Return Window
printed on the FP.
That's the only change to the FP procedure that is in effect.

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Old 02-20-2013, 08:35 AM   #220
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1- Not by much.

2- Yes. But, that has always been the case with the mega-popular attractions, especially TSM and Soarin'.
What varies with the crowd-level is exactly WHEN the FP's can run out for the day.
However, that's nothing new.

3- The only change in FP rules is that now, guests must use their FP's within the one-hour Return Window
printed on the FP.
That's the only change to the FP procedure that is in effect.
Thanks Robo. We'll be there first week in April, guess we'll just have to assume major attraction FP's could be sold out. We'll just have to deal with it. A very busy day at Disney for us is better than no day at Disney.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:34 AM   #221
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Thanks Robo. We'll be there first week in April, guess we'll just have to assume major attraction FP's could be sold out. We'll just have to deal with it. A very busy day at Disney for us is better than no day at Disney.
Just to clarify, they don't sell Fast Passes so they won't be sold out. The do however run out of them for the more popular attractions.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:39 AM   #222
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Just to repeat a message that has been posted about a gazillion times. Over the past few years, from the beginning, they always enforced the "no early times" for admission. It wasn't until recently that the rumor of 5 early was suggested. The grace period after is there to deal with unexpected, legitimate problems delaying ones arrival, but, it is not public knowledge and is done only when a ride can handle it. The fluctuation of CM's may not be the CM's at all but the attraction itself and the supervisor determining if they can be flexible or not without causing a problem.

The only guarantee you have is between the first time on your FP and the last. If you get anything else, you need to say alleluia, have a magical day. I was just Pixie Dusted.
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:04 AM   #223
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Thanks Robo. We'll be there first week in April, guess we'll just have to assume major attraction FP's could be sold out.
Just make sure that you go get FPs for these few very popular attractions the first thing when you enter the park.
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:17 AM   #224
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Sorry for bringing this one back up but I just read it and I have an interesting situation that I would like dadddio and UNCFanatik to comment on:

On my last trip to the World my Dgf and I were done with AK by around 10am since we were there for RD of EMH. However, we had already reserved a FP time to do Kilamanjaro Safari one more time @ 10:30a so we decided to wait outside the FP entrance to the ride until our FP matured. While we happened to be waiting there an older gentleman came up to us and said, "Hey do you guys want to ride this right now?" and offered us two FP for 10a. Of course we jumped at the opportunity to ride right away instead of waiting, so we took the FP. After we got off we decided that we wanted to keep our original FP as trinkets from our trip and didn't offer them to anyone else. Would you consider this net 0 effect or was accepting the first FP so far in breaking the rules that not giving away our 2nd set can't save us?

PS. This is something that REALLY happened.
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:19 AM   #225
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I think the "giving away fast passes" point is so small in the large scale FP over haul that it probably isn't worth devoting 15 pages to.
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