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Old 02-11-2013, 12:30 PM   #1
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It never fails

In any discussion, in any place online, on any topic, no matter how mundane, if the discussion of politics is not expressly banned, some idiot is going to bring up politics and blame the party he/she does not like for the problem, no matter how far removed from politics it is.

Just having a discussion over a school administrator assigning a book for the T&G 4th grade classes that was okay for HS but wildly inappropriate for 4th graders when someone just had to go and stuff his politics into it. Then, of course, someone from the other side had to get a snide political comment in. . .and the discussion ground to a halt!

Wu-huh? Administrator obviously just grabbed a book without vetting it and tried to make some classroom teachers teach it .What does that have to with politics?
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Old 02-11-2013, 12:45 PM   #2
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I have had to work really hard at not voicing my political opinions on threads where politics gets brought up. I have very strong opinions, but the Dis is neither the time nor the place. Besides, I highly doubt I will convince anyone to change their views by arguing over here. It's taken a while, but I think I have gotten better. Now, when I enter one of those threads, I simply back out and go visit one of the resort boards for a bit.

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Old 02-11-2013, 12:59 PM   #3
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The comments sections for most online articles usually get derailed within just a comment or two with some yahoo posting about 'the other side" and all their faults even when the article in question had nothing to do with that.
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Old 02-11-2013, 03:21 PM   #4
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In any discussion, in any place online, on any topic, no matter how mundane, if the discussion of politics is not expressly banned, some idiot is going to bring up politics and blame the party he/she does not like for the problem, no matter how far removed from politics it is.

Just having a discussion over a school administrator assigning a book for the T&G 4th grade classes that was okay for HS but wildly inappropriate for 4th graders when someone just had to go and stuff his politics into it. Then, of course, someone from the other side had to get a snide political comment in. . .and the discussion ground to a halt!

Wu-huh? Administrator obviously just grabbed a book without vetting it and tried to make some classroom teachers teach it .What does that have to with politics?
With all due respect, politics are brought up because they reach deeply into many things that happen in our lives.
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Old 02-11-2013, 04:32 PM   #5
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Yes, many things are political. What is missing is the element of civil discourse...as in polite listening to the other side and either agreeing to disagree or finding shared understanding in certain areas.

We are also missing statesmen and stateswomen. Instead, we have (in many....though not all cases) political hacks! And yes, I once worked for Members of Congress in the U.S. House of Representatives.

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Old 02-11-2013, 06:18 PM   #6
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With all due respect, politics are brought up because they reach deeply into many things that happen in our lives.
But this had NOTHING to do with politics. The novel had literary elements that 4th graders aren't ready cognitively to handle yet and had some adult content (for example, a man rapes a slave girl, and she bears his child) that 4th graders just aren't ready for yet. That's what we were discussing, the literary elements (use of realism, genre structure, historical elements, symbolism) and the mature content.

What the heck does that have to do with politics unless you're so obsessed you look at your toothpaste and think the gunk on the nozzle is a political conspiracy?
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Old 02-11-2013, 06:43 PM   #7
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I have had to work really hard at not voicing my political opinions on threads where politics gets brought up. I have very strong opinions, but the Dis is neither the time nor the place. Besides, I highly doubt I will convince anyone to change their views by arguing over here. It's taken a while, but I think I have gotten better. Now, when I enter one of those threads, I simply back out and go visit one of the resort boards for a bit.

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But this had NOTHING to do with politics. The novel had literary elements that 4th graders aren't ready cognitively to handle yet and had some adult content (for example, a man rapes a slave girl, and she bears his child) that 4th graders just aren't ready for yet. That's what we were discussing, the literary elements (use of realism, genre structure, historical elements, symbolism) and the mature content.

What the heck does that have to do with politics unless you're so obsessed you look at your toothpaste and think the gunk on the nozzle is a political conspiracy?
Not the novel, the process used to make the decision that was not too strong for 4th graders.
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