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Old 07-15-2013, 12:07 PM   #1
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How noticable is the alcohol...?

I'm taking a friend of mine to WDW in a couple of months (her first time to Disney), and I'm kind of re-thinking my dining reservations...she's doesn't drink, and she's against alcohol in general (for religious reasons). She's not bothered by others quietly drinking around her (for instance, we'll go to eat a Chili's or something, and just try to avoid sitting by the bar). She IS bothered when the drinking gets out of hand and folks become unruly around her (can't say I like that either, although I have no problem with responsible drinking).

So, I was planning on trying a couple of restaurants new to me this time around - Rose and Crown for dinner (hopefully with a good view of Illuminations!), and Biergarten for lunch. This will be her first time seeing Illuminations, and I thought Rose and Crown would be the perfect view and we like the menu. If we're on the patio, or even if we get seated inside, what are the chances we'll encounter drunken rowdiness? Will that sort of thing be mainly contained to the bar, if it's happening at all? While I haven't eaten at Rose and Crown, I have run across quite a few rather intoxicated folks in the area, just coming out of the pub.

Also, Biergarten...how's that, drunkenness-wise? I haven't spent too much time in Germany, so I'm really not sure what to except there. But the name implies there might be a lot of drinking going on. I'd think there would be less concern at an early lunch?

I see people bring kids to both of these restaurants all the time, so I'm guessing the atmosphere never really gets too rowdy. But, I've also encountered "drink around the world" groups that were obnoxiously drunk in various places of World Showcase...I know there's no way to guarantee we won't run into that kind of thing, but I'd like to limit the possibility as much as I can while we're dining, at least. I want to make sure my friend's comfortable with what's going on around her and reschedule my dining if need be. Don't want to give her a bad impression of Disney the first time out.
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Old 07-15-2013, 12:11 PM   #2
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I'm taking a friend of mine to WDW in a couple of months (her first time to Disney), and I'm kind of re-thinking my dining reservations...she's doesn't drink, and she's against alcohol in general (for religious reasons). She's not bothered by others quietly drinking around her (for instance, we'll go to eat a Chili's or something, and just try to avoid sitting by the bar). She IS bothered when the drinking gets out of hand and folks become unruly around her (can't say I like that either, although I have no problem with responsible drinking).

So, I was planning on trying a couple of restaurants new to me this time around - Rose and Crown for dinner (hopefully with a good view of Illuminations!), and Biergarten for lunch. This will be her first time seeing Illuminations, and I thought Rose and Crown would be the perfect view and we like the menu. If we're on the patio, or even if we get seated inside, what are the chances we'll encounter drunken rowdiness? Will that sort of thing be mainly contained to the bar, if it's happening at all? While I haven't eaten at Rose and Crown, I have run across quite a few rather intoxicated folks in the area, just coming out of the pub.

Also, Biergarten...how's that, drunkenness-wise? I haven't spent too much time in Germany, so I'm really not sure what to except there. But the name implies there might be a lot of drinking going on. I'd think there would be less concern at an early lunch?

I see people bring kids to both of these restaurants all the time, so I'm guessing the atmosphere never really gets too rowdy. But, I've also encountered "drink around the world" groups that were obnoxiously drunk in various places of World Showcase...I know there's no way to guarantee we won't run into that kind of thing, but I'd like to limit the possibility as much as I can while we're dining, at least. I want to make sure my friend's comfortable with what's going on around her and reschedule my dining if need be. Don't want to give her a bad impression of Disney the first time out.
There really is no need to know. I have only once seen what I would consider bad behavior at a restaurant but there is no way to predict that you won't be seated next to the one group that had too much no matter what place you go to (well unless its in MK and not BOG)
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Old 07-15-2013, 12:13 PM   #3
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The only time I've ever encountered folks who have had too much to drink is at the Food & Wine Festival. Certainly at lunch time there won't be any issues.

Some people do try to "drink around the World" but I've never seen anyone behaving badly or being sick, again with the exception of the F&W Festival.
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Old 07-15-2013, 12:15 PM   #4
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I have seen reports here of unruly behavior during Epcots Food and Wine festival, especially on the weekends.

Saw a few examples of college aged kids being overly friendly to strangers and CM's, and "bragging" about how much they had drank, but it wasn't too bad. We did avoid Epcot on the weekends though.
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Old 07-15-2013, 12:19 PM   #5
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If someone is being out of control, they will be removed from the park. We have been to food and wine several times and have never seen anything terrible. I have never had so much as a drink of beer, but what others do is none of my business. I would never be hesitant to take a friend to Disney World because of alcohol. There is only one place you can get alcohol in MK, and they have a limit as to how many you can get.
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Old 07-15-2013, 12:31 PM   #6
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I'm taking a friend of mine to WDW in a couple of months (her first time to Disney), and I'm kind of re-thinking my dining reservations...she's doesn't drink, and she's against alcohol in general (for religious reasons). She's not bothered by others quietly drinking around her (for instance, we'll go to eat a Chili's or something, and just try to avoid sitting by the bar). She IS bothered when the drinking gets out of hand and folks become unruly around her (can't say I like that either, although I have no problem with responsible drinking).

So, I was planning on trying a couple of restaurants new to me this time around - Rose and Crown for dinner (hopefully with a good view of Illuminations!), and Biergarten for lunch. This will be her first time seeing Illuminations, and I thought Rose and Crown would be the perfect view and we like the menu. If we're on the patio, or even if we get seated inside, what are the chances we'll encounter drunken rowdiness? Will that sort of thing be mainly contained to the bar, if it's happening at all? While I haven't eaten at Rose and Crown, I have run across quite a few rather intoxicated folks in the area, just coming out of the pub.

Also, Biergarten...how's that, drunkenness-wise? I haven't spent too much time in Germany, so I'm really not sure what to except there. But the name implies there might be a lot of drinking going on. I'd think there would be less concern at an early lunch?

I see people bring kids to both of these restaurants all the time, so I'm guessing the atmosphere never really gets too rowdy. But, I've also encountered "drink around the world" groups that were obnoxiously drunk in various places of World Showcase...I know there's no way to guarantee we won't run into that kind of thing, but I'd like to limit the possibility as much as I can while we're dining, at least. I want to make sure my friend's comfortable with what's going on around her and reschedule my dining if need be. Don't want to give her a bad impression of Disney the first time out.
Except at Food and Wine Festival and a few other holidays, I have never found drunkeness to be a big problem.

That said, you have chosen two of the dining locations where alcohol is most central to the entire theme and experience. Rose & Crown is a British pub, so drinking is part of the theme, and Biergarten is a biergarten and the beer is a major focus. I would not have a problem with that, but if the presence of alcohol is a concern then I would think those two options would be near the bottom of my list.
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Old 07-15-2013, 12:34 PM   #7
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The only time I've ever encountered folks who have had too much to drink is at the Food & Wine Festival. Certainly at lunch time there won't be any issues.
This. We are avoiding Epcot late at night for this reason. Twice last year we had drunk people on our bus trying to start fights with other riders. That was the only time I ever noticed it though.
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I agree with Jestocost. You have chosen 2 restaurants where drinking is part of the theme. It gets loud and a bit "jovial" in the Pub section of the Rose & Crown, especially as it gets later in the night. Although I believe the restaurant is a quieter atmosphere and would be fine, you have to work your way through the pub section for the Ladies Room.
And lots of folks drink lots of beer at the Biergarden. Some get tipsy.
You have to decide whether this is a problem for your friend.
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Old 07-15-2013, 12:42 PM   #9
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With this being Disney a large number of people that do drink, tend to be aware that there are tons of families around and don't overindulge. Rose & Crown can get Lively do to the Hat Lady at the Piano. I've rarely seen anyone at the Biergarten over do it with a meal there. IMO you have nothing to worry about.
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Old 07-15-2013, 12:45 PM   #10
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I'm taking a friend of mine to WDW in a couple of months (her first time to Disney), and I'm kind of re-thinking my dining reservations...she's doesn't drink, and she's against alcohol in general (for religious reasons). She's not bothered by others quietly drinking around her (for instance, we'll go to eat a Chili's or something, and just try to avoid sitting by the bar). She IS bothered when the drinking gets out of hand and folks become unruly around her (can't say I like that either, although I have no problem with responsible drinking).

So, I was planning on trying a couple of restaurants new to me this time around - Rose and Crown for dinner (hopefully with a good view of Illuminations!), and Biergarten for lunch. This will be her first time seeing Illuminations, and I thought Rose and Crown would be the perfect view and we like the menu. If we're on the patio, or even if we get seated inside, what are the chances we'll encounter drunken rowdiness? Will that sort of thing be mainly contained to the bar, if it's happening at all? While I haven't eaten at Rose and Crown, I have run across quite a few rather intoxicated folks in the area, just coming out of the pub.

Also, Biergarten...how's that, drunkenness-wise? I haven't spent too much time in Germany, so I'm really not sure what to except there. But the name implies there might be a lot of drinking going on. I'd think there would be less concern at an early lunch?

I see people bring kids to both of these restaurants all the time, so I'm guessing the atmosphere never really gets too rowdy. But, I've also encountered "drink around the world" groups that were obnoxiously drunk in various places of World Showcase...I know there's no way to guarantee we won't run into that kind of thing, but I'd like to limit the possibility as much as I can while we're dining, at least. I want to make sure my friend's comfortable with what's going on around her and reschedule my dining if need be. Don't want to give her a bad impression of Disney the first time out.
i really don't think there should be that big of a problem... like others have said, if someone was truly drunk & unruly there would be a good chance of them being removed from the park. but you can't guarantee that you won't be seated next to people who are drinking, & at biergarten you will likely be seated at a table w/ other people, who may be drinking (it is a family place, but it's also called BIERgarten). and rose & crown is a pub, so... you might want to rethink these 2 restaurants if it will really be a problem for her.
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Is she against alcohol to the point where she will be disapproving if you are seated with another party at Biergarten and the other party orders beer?

That happened to a group I was with once...they seated an older couple with us and they gave us the evil eye as soon as we ordered beer, then called the server and asked to be moved. Dont know what they did if they were put at another table with beer drinkers. They also serve the beer in these HUGE glass steins if people order enough beer.

It's all going to depend on what she thinks is "unruly." Talking loudly, laughing and toasting? She would be better off not going to either place. Staggering, fighting and vomiting? Haven't seen that. The latter may get you removed from the park if you come to the attention of security... the former will not.

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Or, you can leave the restaurant and walk across the "street" to the public restroom in the UK pavilion. However, when you walk across you will be passing in front of the beer stand, where everyone will be purchasing beer and some will be drinking it in the garden.

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It's not that bad at all. Tell your friend to man (woman) up. Others around them shouldn't bother them that much lol
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Agree you should be fine. Our only issue was also with food and wine festival, even that was no terrible. It was mostly annoyance because of where we were, not looking for drunks to be stumbling by.
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Except at Food and Wine Festival and a few other holidays, I have never found drunkeness to be a big problem.

That said, you have chosen two of the dining locations where alcohol is most central to the entire theme and experience. Rose & Crown is a British pub, so drinking is part of the theme, and Biergarten is a biergarten and the beer is a major focus. I would not have a problem with that, but if the presence of alcohol is a concern then I would think those two options would be near the bottom of my list.
I agree. I would stay away from these two places. In my opinion its the worst place to book if you have a real concern about alcohol.

Honestly thou, you can encounter this type of behaviour at any restaurant that serves alcohol.
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It's all going to depend on what she thinks is "unruly."

Have to agree to this. At the two places you mentioned, there will be beer drinking, at least. And the Biergarten will be loud, even at lunch. But unruly? In my opinion, neither one is. In your friend's opinion? Who knows?
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