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Old 01-27-2013, 09:29 AM   #31
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How do you cover up radiation floating across the Pacific Ocean? Anyone with a Geiger counter can measure it and google dangerous levels.

My dh has been measuring it since the accident. Nothing significant enough to report
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:41 AM   #32
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I looked at the report (in Post #15) and have one question.

Considering normal background levels of radiation, what do these numbers mean??
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Old 01-27-2013, 11:49 AM   #33
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Thank-you. I had a ton of information about the Japanese nuclear problem
( dis ***** out the name) on my crashed laptop.
None of it was good.
If people want to live in lala land and think that none of the radiation affected our food crops and livestock, more power to them. Researchers are expecting cancer rates to increase though, especially in the western states.
Sorry I don't think I live in Lala land.

Personally at my age I wish I had a 100 bucks for every one of this "concern" stories I've heard over the past 50 years. Do you know how many time is the past 50 years the country was going to fly apart at the seams according to some?


Let's do a head count shall we and fellow dissers feel free to chime in. these include medical, social and economic prophesies in no particular order.
  • I had to hide under my desk because russia was going to nuke us at any time (never understood what my school desk was going to do but what the hay).
  • If Blacks were allowed to ride the bus and vote, watch out. countrys ending.
  • Mad cow disease was going to do us all in.
  • The east coast was going to have ridiculous rate of cancer growth due to TMI.( that's three mile island for you youngesters, not "too much information")
  • After the 2008 election we should have all been Muslim and socialist by this time (funny I went to church this morning with a whole bunch of bible thumping christians).
  • The ozone should have collapsed by now. thus giving everyone cancer.
  • The rate of cancer should be through the roof from airport scanners
  • What metal was it a few years back that they found in fish that was supposed to wipe us out? I want to say mercury but I can't remember.
  • And wasn't California supposed to be in the Ocean by now?

So far, we're still ticking along.

Oh and researchers have been predicting cancer rates to increase since cancer was first diagnosed. How do you think we convince people to give us money for funding?

So I'll turn it back on you.. If you want to live in a constant state of panic and paronia go ahead. I'll stay in lala land.
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Old 01-27-2013, 11:50 AM   #34
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In your opinion, to which you are perfectly entitled to hold and to which I am similarly entitled to chuckle.

As to the radiation "scare", those concerned should look at the actual effects on Western Europe of the Chernobyl disaster. The huge disparity between the impact on people living close to the accident and those of us living at distance should be noted.

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Actually, it's much more than my opinion. Just do a google search for GMO foods. Additionally, the rise in rates of diseases like Autism, ADD, ADHD, Cealics (sp?) as well as many food allergies all started shortly after the introduction of GMOs into our food supply. In addition in most cases symptoms are lessened or eliminated when those with these conditions are taken completely off of GMO foods.

I would say that is pretty strong evidence that GMO foods are indeed having a severe negative impact on the health of the country.

Due to the nature of the GMO foods, many of them have lower nutritional content as well, because in many cases the modification is to allow the products to have a longer shelf life. Well, once picked or processed food looses nutritional value until consumed. So, if it is on the shelf longer, it will have a lower nutritional content than what is fresher. This means you will most likely have to consume more of a product to get the same nutritional benefit as the GMO free counterparts. This means you are spending more money and consuming more calories, which means GMO foods are contributing (definitely not the sole cause) to the obesity problems in America.

In other cases, the modification is to make the product produce its own pesticide. And it has been proven that consuming pesticides cause an increase in cancer, which is why you are always supposed to wash fresh fruits and vegetables. But if the pesticide is in the cells of the fruits and vegetables, you cannot wash it off. For those wondering if there might be fresh fruits or vegetables sold that are GMO, there are indeed, all corn sold at Walmart is, as is many of their other products. Most Papaya from Hawaii is GMO. In addition, most prepackaged products contain GMOs, especially anything with Corn Syrup or Wheat.

As mentioned by others, there are many independent people in California that have been measuring the background radiation in California and there has been no noticeable increase. This includes government and private entities that all agree. So, I do indeed maintain that GMOs are something we should worry far more about. And I also maintain that it is something we can control and that we can't do much about the radiation levels at this point in time.

I agree with the PP that a lot of these concern articles are doom and gloom that never comes to pass, so we shouldn't worry another these. GMOs on the other hand have a proven track record and we can indeed do something about them, so why wouldn't we?

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Old 01-27-2013, 12:16 PM   #35
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Actually, it's much more than my opinion. Just do a google search for GMO foods. Additionally, the rise in rates of diseases like Autism, ADD, ADHD, Cealics (sp?) as well as many food allergies all started shortly after the introduction of GMOs into our food supply. In addition in most cases symptoms are lessened or eliminated when those with these conditions are taken completely off of GMO foods.

I would say that is pretty strong evidence that GMO foods are indeed having a severe negative impact on the health of the country.

Due to the nature of the GMO foods, many of them have lower nutritional content as well, because in many cases the modification is to allow the products to have a longer shelf life. Well, once picked or processed food looses nutritional value until consumed. So, if it is on the shelf longer, it will have a lower nutritional content than what is fresher. This means you will most likely have to consume more of a product to get the same nutritional benefit as the GMO free counterparts. This means you are spending more money and consuming more calories, which means GMO foods are contributing (definitely not the sole cause) to the obesity problems in America.

In other cases, the modification is to make the product produce its own pesticide. And it has been proven that consuming pesticides cause an increase in cancer, which is why you are always supposed to wash fresh fruits and vegetables. But if the pesticide is in the cells of the fruits and vegetables, you cannot wash it off. For those wondering if there might be fresh fruits or vegetables sold that are GMO, there are indeed, all corn sold at Walmart is, as is many of their other products. Most Papaya from Hawaii is GMO. In addition, most prepackaged products contain GMOs, especially anything with Corn Syrup or Wheat.

As mentioned by others, there are many independent people in California that have been measuring the background radiation in California and there has been no noticeable increase. This includes government and private entities that all agree. So, I do indeed maintain that GMOs are something we should worry far more about. And I also maintain that it is something we can control and that we can't do much about the radiation levels at this point in time.

I agree with the PP that a lot of these concern articles are doom and gloom that never comes to pass, so we shouldn't worry another these. GMOs on the other hand have a proven track record and we can indeed do something about them, so why wouldn't we?
Excuse my ignorance but what is GMO ?
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Old 01-27-2013, 12:55 PM   #36
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My dh has been measuring it since the accident. Nothing significant enough to report
See! Luvmy3's hubby is on the case!


Unless he's part of the cover-up.....
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:26 PM   #37
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Actually, it's much more than my opinion. Just do a google search for GMO foods. Additionally, the rise in rates of diseases like Autism, ADD, ADHD, Cealics (sp?) as well as many food allergies all started shortly after the introduction of GMOs into our food supply. In addition in most cases symptoms are lessened or eliminated when those with these conditions are taken completely off of GMO foods.

I would say that is pretty strong evidence that GMO foods are indeed having a severe negative impact on the health of the country.

Due to the nature of the GMO foods, many of them have lower nutritional content as well, because in many cases the modification is to allow the products to have a longer shelf life. Well, once picked or processed food looses nutritional value until consumed. So, if it is on the shelf longer, it will have a lower nutritional content than what is fresher. This means you will most likely have to consume more of a product to get the same nutritional benefit as the GMO free counterparts. This means you are spending more money and consuming more calories, which means GMO foods are contributing (definitely not the sole cause) to the obesity problems in America.

In other cases, the modification is to make the product produce its own pesticide. And it has been proven that consuming pesticides cause an increase in cancer, which is why you are always supposed to wash fresh fruits and vegetables. But if the pesticide is in the cells of the fruits and vegetables, you cannot wash it off. For those wondering if there might be fresh fruits or vegetables sold that are GMO, there are indeed, all corn sold at Walmart is, as is many of their other products. Most Papaya from Hawaii is GMO. In addition, most prepackaged products contain GMOs, especially anything with Corn Syrup or Wheat.

As mentioned by others, there are many independent people in California that have been measuring the background radiation in California and there has been no noticeable increase. This includes government and private entities that all agree. So, I do indeed maintain that GMOs are something we should worry far more about. And I also maintain that it is something we can control and that we can't do much about the radiation levels at this point in time.

I agree with the PP that a lot of these concern articles are doom and gloom that never comes to pass, so we shouldn't worry another these. GMOs on the other hand have a proven track record and we can indeed do something about them, so why wouldn't we?
I agree with you about the GMO foods and people should take vitamins and minerals, and shop organic. That's a different subject though.
Sites that I have seen do note increases in radiation that could be significant.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:45 PM   #39
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Excuse my ignorance but what is GMO ?
GMO stands for Generically Modified Organisms and are foods that have been genetically modified to produce faster (GMO Salmon), produce it's own pesticides (corn for example), contain higher levels of gluten (Wheat) although the point is to increase crop yields, but it fails to do that, have longer shelf lives (various foods) or other similar "benefits". The problem is all of these modifications have serious consequences for our health or the environment or both. The foods that produce their own pesticides are causing pesticide resistant bugs, resulting in the crops needing to be sprayed with stronger and very harmful pesticides. Crops designed to grow faster or larger are depleting our soils of the needed nutrients at a faster rate. The higher levels of gluten are leading to a rise in Cealics disease and many with this disease find that they can eat GMO free wheat and not have a reaction. The list goes on and on about it.

We tried to pass a labeling law in California, which unfortunately failed by a very narrow margin despite those against labeling outspending those in favor something like 10 to 1. I mean we are talking billions of dollars agains millions. And the no side filled the air waves with lies about what the law would require and about GMOs, yet something like 48% of Californians voted in favor of the law.

Many states are going to have similar laws on their ballots this year, if yours is one, I would suggest researching GMOs before deciding to vote for or against labeling or banning GMOs. It's what I did, as I had no clue about GMOs either and I don't believe in voting without being an informed voter, but after researching them, I am solidly against them.
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GMO stands for Generically Modified Organisms and are foods that have been genetically modified to produce faster (GMO Salmon), produce it's own pesticides (corn for example), contain higher levels of gluten (Wheat) although the point is to increase crop yields, but it fails to do that, have longer shelf lives (various foods) or other similar "benefits". The problem is all of these modifications have serious consequences for our health or the environment or both. The foods that produce their own pesticides are causing pesticide resistant bugs, resulting in the crops needing to be sprayed with stronger and very harmful pesticides. Crops designed to grow faster or larger are depleting our soils of the needed nutrients at a faster rate. The higher levels of gluten are leading to a rise in Cealics disease and many with this disease find that they can eat GMO free wheat and not have a reaction. The list goes on and on about it.

We tried to pass a labeling law in California, which unfortunately failed by a very narrow margin despite those against labeling outspending those in favor something like 10 to 1. I mean we are talking billions of dollars agains millions. And the no side filled the air waves with lies about what the law would require and about GMOs, yet something like 48% of Californians voted in favor of the law.

Many states are going to have similar laws on their ballots this year, if yours is one, I would suggest researching GMOs before deciding to vote for or against labeling or banning GMOs. It's what I did, as I had no clue about GMOs either and I don't believe in voting without being an informed voter, but after researching them, I am solidly against them.

Thank you and I will definitely look into it!! I can't see why anyone would have an issues with food labeled for things like that.
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Thank you and I will definitely look into it!! I can't see why anyone would have an issues with food labeled for things like that.
You are welcome. The biggest lie that was spread to defeat the labeling law was that labeling would cause an increase in food costs, which simply isn't true. I mean how much extra would it really cost to print Contains GMOs on the label?

But unfortunately many heard that and believed it.
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I think another problem is what is called "Disaster Overload". Every week on the news or on the web is another "some thing" that is killing us. Then to add to that turn around and the next week, that very same thing keeps us healthy.

one week vitamin B deficiency is a big problem. following week too much is killing us.

for me, I pick my battles. Now I haven't followed the "labelling" debate. truthfully the labels seem sufficient to me but my family is basically healthy. I'm probably more concerned about keeping them active then what GM food they are eating.

Now NJ did try and have a vote on genetically modified foods and truthfully it got nowhere basically because it was very low on our list of things to get upset about. It's still down there at the bottom of my concerns. sorry but if you are worried about your kid making it to school alive, how the corn is grown in your supermarket is really not a hot topic.

Every one has their causes or the things that are important to them, that's not saying the other isn't important, it just means it's different.
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