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Old 01-16-2013, 08:36 AM   #1
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School privacy issue?

Are teachers allowed to discuss children's (not a specific child but children who transferred from a different school) grade performance with other staff or general public? At a school board budget meeting that ended up being charter school k-3 vs regular public K-12 a parent against the charter stood up and said charter has high test scores but I hear the students who come back to regular public in 4th grade this year are struggling. Now how would they know this unless teachers were discussing it with friends and family?
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:40 AM   #2
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Are teachers allowed to discuss children's (not a specific child but children who transferred from a different school) grade performance with other staff or general public? At a school board budget meeting that ended up being charter school k-3 vs regular public K-12 a parent against the charter stood up and said charter has high test scores but I hear the students who come back to regular public in 4th grade this year are struggling. Now how would they know this unless teachers were discussing it with friends and family?
As long as it's a generalized statement (i.e. "The kids coming to us from school A sure are having trouble keeping up.) I don't see any issue with it. Where you have major legal issues is when you start naming children.
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:46 AM   #3
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Of course they talk about their students. As long as it's generalities there are no privacy issues.
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:51 AM   #4
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I hear schools' test scores being discussed on the local news and in the papers all the time. It's pretty much a matter of public record.
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:52 AM   #5
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Overviews of test scores are public record here, so no, I don't believe it is a privacy issue.

Unless individual names are mentioned, there is no problem.
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:55 AM   #6
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It doesn't have to be a teacher talking- I could tell you all through my daughters school years which kids were "struggling" simply by my daughter coming home saying "I got a A on my test and missed one word, joey missed 20 words, tommoy missed 3 words and mary got them all right etc" "Joey, Sue, Myron and Calen get taken out of the room for testing because they need extra help" kids are a wealth of information.
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Plus parents in general talk...the parent may have "heard" that those kids are struggling when they come back. You hear tons of talks amongst parents on any sideline and on the bleachers.
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It doesn't have to be a teacher talking- I could tell you all through my daughters school years which kids were "struggling" simply by my daughter coming home saying "I got a A on my test and missed one word, joey missed 20 words, tommoy missed 3 words and mary got them all right etc" "Joey, Sue, Myron and Calen get taken out of the room for testing because they need extra help" kids are a wealth of information.
Absolutely. My kid is in first grade and he can tell you the DRA level of each student in the class, who had a time out, you name it.
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Are teachers allowed to discuss children's (not a specific child but children who transferred from a different school) grade performance with other staff or general public? At a school board budget meeting that ended up being charter school k-3 vs regular public K-12 a parent against the charter stood up and said charter has high test scores but I hear the students who come back to regular public in 4th grade this year are struggling. Now how would they know this unless teachers were discussing it with friends and family?
Because kids or other parents are talking? Why does this knowledge HAVE to come from teachers?
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I know test scores are public I have no issue with that. My thoughts were if there are only 8 students coming from that school all 300 people now know they are struggling (if that's true). It's a small community everyone knows everyone
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Because kids or other parents are talking? Why does this knowledge HAVE to come from teachers?
I have nothing against teachers. The simple fact is I overheard a group of them talking how they were going to bring down the charter school and they have to get the community on board and who can we get to point out their flaws. So basically that person was given a script to repeat at a community meeting.
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As long as things are discussed in generalities and not specifics, I don't see a problem with it. Similar to a hospital, it's OK to discuss "our infection rate has gone up by 3% in the past month". It's not OK to discuss "Bill Smith got an infection this past month".

I'm also curious as to why you jumped right to the teachers being the ones to spread the news? That kind of stuff is usually fodder for discussion amongst parents in my experience.
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We switched to a public school this year from a Catholic school. The first question I get asked from my friends from the old school is "How is she doing in comparison to the other students with a public school education? Is she struggling?" Parents want to compare. In our case, the parents want to know if they are paying for a decent education or a crappy one. I get their point and am happy to share our experience.

Parents talk way more than teachers!!!
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Old 01-16-2013, 09:31 AM   #14
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[QUOTE="

I'm also curious as to why you jumped right to the teachers being the ones to spread the news? That kind of stuff is usually fodder for discussion amongst parents in my experience.[/QUOTE]

All I did was ask the question how else would they know? And many people have answered that questioned for me. Thank you. The teachers know about the kids grades before even the parents so naturally I would question that, especially when I hear a conversation by a group of teachers that seems childish.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:48 AM   #15
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Are teachers allowed to discuss children's (not a specific child but children who transferred from a different school) grade performance with other staff or general public? At a school board budget meeting that ended up being charter school k-3 vs regular public K-12 a parent against the charter stood up and said charter has high test scores but I hear the students who come back to regular public in 4th grade this year are struggling. Now how would they know this unless teachers were discussing it with friends and family?
Or the parents of the struggling children could have talked to other parents. I know that among the kids in my DD dance class we always talked about how our kids were doing in school. So I knew that kids at XYZ school were doing one type of work and kids at my child's school (in the same district and the same grade) were doing something different.

It sounds like what you hear was general information, why would there be a problem with that? Now if you said "The 3rd grade math teacher said that Tommy Jones is failing math", that's different. And here, the standardized test grades are published in the newspaper by class/grade/school, so I would know that minority race children in third grade at ABC school did better on the math portion of the CMTs than white children in third grade at LMNOP school. Again, it's kind of specific, but not really identifiable.

I don't see the problem. Why are you asking?
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