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Old 01-31-2013, 01:26 PM   #106
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What I can afford or what I think is 'price gouging' is irrelevant. The ONLY goal of Disney (and ALL companies) is to make as much $ as possible. DW is about supply and demand. If you can sell out all of your rooms for $200 a night you'd do it, BUT if you can STILL sell all of those same rooms for $300 you'd do it! You sell at the top price that demand will accept.

Each family has to decide what a trip to DW/staying onsite is worth to you. You have to figure out your own demand for the product Many have said it's too much $ and the hotels are not fancy/large enough (and I personally agree with them)....so they do not bother staying onsite anymore. I also know many who think DW is horrifically expensive, hate the planning and will never take their kids there- onsite or offsite.

If enough people start to feel like those above, disney will have to reduce their pricing. Until then- DW is what it is- a BUSINESS who's ONLY interest is to MAKE MONEY. DW provides a fantasy world for all of us disney lovers but do not EVER forget what the #1 GOAL is and ALWAYS will be.....MAKE money. (and as stockholder myself- I'm cool with that
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Old 01-31-2013, 06:09 PM   #107
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I think someone had posted that if people stopped booking a reservation in hopes of getting a code or discount then Disney might give better offers to get people to book?? They don't see the need to discount resorts that are full or close to being full
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Old 01-31-2013, 06:16 PM   #108
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I think someone had posted that if people stopped booking a reservation in hopes of getting a code or discount then Disney might give better offers to get people to book?? They don't see the need to discount resorts that are full or close to being full
It's not Disney's first rodeo - they account for the number of bookings that will cancel without a discount. They know how it works.
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Old 01-31-2013, 06:16 PM   #109
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I agree.

Let's take a family of 4.

at a value resort 5 nights- approximately $120 a night

Park 5 day tickets (we will round and not add the extra $57 dollars for hopper) $260

So without food, we are at $1640 that doesn't include airfare or gas depending on how they get there

Just adding the dinning plan for 5 days that's an added $1100 making the trip $2740 dollars for a family of 4!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-31-2013, 06:19 PM   #110
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I agree.

Let's take a family of 4.

at a value resort 5 nights- approximately $120 a night

Park 5 day tickets (we will round and not add the extra $57 dollars for hopper) $260

So without food, we are at $1640 that doesn't include airfare or gas depending on how they get there

Just adding the dinning plan for 5 days that's an added $1100 making the trip $2740 dollars for a family of 4!!!!!!!!!
That honestly doesn't seem unreasonable to me at all.

If we go to Myrtle Beach for a week we're paying around $1000 for the hotel for the week. We eat dinner out each night as a family and get groceries for inside the condo or whatever for the day. Toss in some entertainment and we're easily at that price.
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Old 01-31-2013, 06:27 PM   #111
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That honestly doesn't seem unreasonable to me at all.

If we go to Myrtle Beach for a week we're paying around $1000 for the hotel for the week. We eat dinner out each night as a family and get groceries for inside the condo or whatever for the day. Toss in some entertainment and we're easily at that price.
Right. But not everyone is as well off as you.

MOST families don't have almost 3 grand to spend on a vacation but Disney is DISNEY. The happiest place on earth. Where memories are made. (fill in any other line you can remember from Disney ads).

It's just a sad thought to me that only those who think 1000 dollars for a resort for a week, as you said, is not unreasonable.

I say, for many, it's not possible.
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Old 01-31-2013, 06:40 PM   #112
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I agree with most on this thread. I was just mentioning to my wife the other day that we will probably never be able to stay at a resort above moderate. I'm a teacher - enough said! Even so, my DW, DS, and me usually do a 10-day trip with room, MYW w/park hopper, water park, etc and spend about $5000.00 after airfare etc. Prices are definitely getting out of reach at other resorts we'd love to stay at, specifically Poly and AKL.

Many have mentioned the reality of WDW being a business and that is very true. However, I wonder if at some point the average family will be able to really afford a one-week vacation at WDW. That's why we cherish and feel blessed that we can go for the foreseeable future. The memories have been priceless!
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:15 PM   #113
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Right. But not everyone is as well off as you.

MOST families don't have almost 3 grand to spend on a vacation but Disney is DISNEY. The happiest place on earth. Where memories are made. (fill in any other line you can remember from Disney ads).

It's just a sad thought to me that only those who think 1000 dollars for a resort for a week, as you said, is not unreasonable.

I say, for many, it's not possible.
We will just have to agree to disagree then I guess. Even if I couldn't afford the prices you mentioned, it would seem unreasonable... I just wouldn't be able to afford it.

When you're throwing all these components into the mix (hotel, food, entertainment/tickts, etc) it has to be anticipated that you aren't going to walk out paying $1500 for a family of 4. But it's not unattainable. It's not half of someone's yearly salary just for a vacation.

And you certainly don't have to feel $1000 for a resort a week is fine to vacation at Disney. There are plenty of places for less off property. If someone feels comfortable spending $30/night for a room somewhere nearby it is available. I think the Best Western we stayed at on the drive home one year was around $75 for the night for far less than what Disney gives for a room... Disney being around $95 for a value isn't outrageous for what it is.

What's the average vacation budget for a family of 4?
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:22 PM   #114
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I find Disney no more expensive then some other vacation spots.

Maybe because I'm in New York and used to "expensive" hotels.
$300 a night for a run down cabin in Lake George, $200 for a hotel in Cortland, NY is common.

So the budgets at $100 and mods at $175 in Disney seem good to me.
Noone sqays people have to stay deluxe.


It's the airfare that I dislike the most.

I agree with you. Coming from Boston, we go back to Disney because it IS so affordable for our family of 4. (especially if you get a discount). There is something to do for everyone.
We stay in Values mostly, don't rent a car, and check airfare prices daily to get best rates.
We are used to $200 + a night hotels in this area so $95 for a Disney resort is a steal!!!
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:24 PM   #115
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Right. But not everyone is as well off as you.

MOST families don't have almost 3 grand to spend on a vacation but Disney is DISNEY. The happiest place on earth. Where memories are made. (fill in any other line you can remember from Disney ads).

It's just a sad thought to me that only those who think 1000 dollars for a resort for a week, as you said, is not unreasonable.

I say, for many, it's not possible.
You are correct that not all can afford but that is not Disney's fault or problem. They created the AllStars with the knowledge that more people with lower incomes could enjoy their parks from their grounds(angering many of the Days Inn operations!) At times those rooms are $69-$79 per night. That's about as low as they are going to go. People with lower incomes obviously neec to prioritize what's important in their life and odds are it's not a WDW vacation every year.....but it may be every OTHER year or every 3rd year. They need to go the time of year when prices are lower. And when adding up a cost you can't blame Disney for gas or airline costs! I know it's part of a vacation but they have no control about that. P.S. A dining plan would be the last thing a guest with little resources should buy. Earl of Sandwich instead!
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Old 01-31-2013, 08:17 PM   #116
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I'll say this - no matter which side of the fence you are on, worth it or not worth it, can afford it or not afford it.....there are a LOT of posts popping up lately on this and other forums about how expensive WDW is becoming.

So perception at some point becomes reality. If I were Disney, I'd be a little worried at this point. I think they are basing their long term pricing strategy on short term resurgence due to pent up demand. Many people postponed their WDW visits during the four years from 2008-2012. Now, for a variety of economic reasons, they are back with a vengeance and increased park attendance is a fluke - many of those visitors won't be back next year, or even the year after that - because (I know it's a shock) not everyone goes to WDW once a year. In fact, those of use who do are a tiny minority.

And I do agree that other destinations aren't cheap either. Even Vegas isn't the cheap getaway it used to be (I stayed at the Cosmo twice last year, had lunch with Larry Flynt, just not at the same table. But his gold plated wheelchair was within kicking distance and I couldn't believe how it's now fashionable in Vegas to charge as much as possible for as little as possible).

Of course, at those other destinations I don't have to wait an hour in line for anything or make dining reservations six months in advance, but that's a whole other topic.......

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Old 01-31-2013, 08:21 PM   #117
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Whether you agree or disagree that 2000+ dollars on a family vacation is a lot of money or not... one thing we can agree on without a doubt is that an AVERAGE family cannot afford it.
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I disagree that 2000.00 is a lot .If a family wants/needs that time with each other than it is worth the money. Again maybe not every year but what they get out of it can be worth more than the money spent.
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I'll say this - no matter which side of the fence you are on, worth it or not worth it, can afford it or not afford it.....there are a LOT of posts popping up lately on this and other forums about how expensive WDW is becoming.

So perception at some point becomes reality. If I were Disney, I'd be a little worried at this point. I think they are basing their long term pricing strategy on short term resurgence due to pent up demand. Many people postponed their WDW visits during the four years from 2008-2012. Now, for a variety of economic reasons, they are back with a vengeance and increased park attendance is a fluke - many of those visitors won't be back next year, or even the year after that - because (I know it's a shock) not everyone goes to WDW once a year. In fact, those of use who do are a tiny minority.

And I do agree that other destinations aren't cheap either. Even Vegas isn't the cheap getaway it used to be (I stayed at the Cosmo twice last year, had lunch with Larry Flynt, just not at the same table. But his gold plated wheelchair was within kicking distance and I couldn't believe how it's now fashionable in Vegas to charge as much as possible for as little as possible).

Of course, at those other destinations I don't have to wait an hour in line for anything or make dining reservations six months in advance, but that's a whole other topic.......
I disagree on the "fluke" statement. Many many people are repeat customers and have been for a long time.And there are so many new families that "can't wait" to take their kids to the Happiest Place on Earth.
I live in Ill and just about every summer we head up to Wisc....I wish I could make dinner resv 6 months in advance so I wouldn't wait an hour just to eat!
Also my last 7-8 trips to WDW were all in Jan or Nov and the lines those times of year are really short except for the slow loading rides like SOARIN. I know not everybody can go "off" season, but highly recommended if long lines are a problem.
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The average price of gas in January 2001 was $1.45/gallon. The average price of gas this week this year is $3.30/gallon That's a 127% increase

The rack rate of a standard room at AKL the last week of January this year is $313 a night. That's a 124% increase.
I wish my paycheck increased like that!!
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