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Old 10-15-2013, 06:32 AM   #1
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Drunken fight at F&W festival

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I personally do not see the need to drink at WDW. And it seems the winds of change are whispering that alcohol may be served in more and more places in the world.

There were many reports of obscene , drunken and lewd behavior at last years F&W.

So whats going on America? Why do we have to get blind stinking drunk to have fun?

I realize the majority of people behave responsibly, but it does seem that there is also a growing segment of visitors, especially during F&W who are over indulging.

How do you feel about alcohol consumption in the parks? Has the problem gotten worse? Should WDW do a better job of limiting alcohol to those who are becoming intoxicated?
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:31 AM   #2
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It's not about alcohol, it's about the breeding of lack of responsibility that is being encouraged in today's society.

Look at the recent EBT thing. The cards get a glitch and have no limit, so folks go out and fill up multiple carts and KNOWINGLY steal food, and a lot of it...yet it's being considered that these people should not be prosecuted, because it's "human nature". So now, stealing is human nature...so we shouldn't go after people who do it...because they aren't responsible for their impulses. Regardless of my own opinions on the matter, as well, rather than encouraging minors not to engage in sexual activity, abortions are being pushed instead. When a madman goes on a shooting spree, he gets insanity and a severely limited sentence, and the guns get blamed, because he is not responsible for his actions...it's human nature.

Regardless of how anyone feels about those things politically, it's a fact that they encourage a lack of personal responsibility. When people begin getting in the frame of mind that it's the alcohol's fault, the gun's fault, human nature's fault, things start getting chaotic...and as a result, things start going in the opposite direction of a free society. And that's what we have here.
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:35 AM   #3
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It seems like people get crazier & crazier! I'm ALL for people having fun (especially on vacation), but behavior like this effects everyone. Disney is a family oriented place, yes there is alcohol, but Epcot isn't just a bar or nightclub. As an adult you should have a grasp on how much liquor you can safely tolerate, obviously this 23 year old hasn't grown up enough yet. It's just a shame that people like this make other people's vacations less than happy.
It's ridiculous to think that disney should have to 'limit' people's alcohol consumption, but i'd rather them limit it rather than cast members or possibly other customers get punched or hurt....just my opinion.
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:44 AM   #4
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I don't know how anyone can afford to get stinkin' drunk at Epcot! Drinks are very expensive at Epcot .
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:55 AM   #5
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I took a graduation trip after finishing school this May, and my girlfriend and I went around Epcot. The "Drinks Around the World" sounded like fun, but then once we saw the prices, and realized how much alcohol that would be...we decided to have one drink of our choice each, she got a margarita and I a beer from Germany... and we just enjoyed a drink and walked around enjoying Epcot

I do enjoy being able to purchase a drink at the park, however I feel it is everyone's responsibility to keep Disney the family oriented, enjoyable place it is. Including making sure guests to do consume more than they should.

People just need to stay responsible for their actions
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:02 AM   #6
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I do enjoy being able to purchase a drink at the park, however I feel it is everyone's responsibility to keep Disney the family oriented, enjoyable place it is. Including making sure guests to do consume more than they should.

People just need to stay responsible for their actions
Completely agree. A good bartender should always be paying attention to the level of intoxication of their customers and deciding when to cut them off. If someone comes up acting belligerent, it's the bartender's responsibility to cut them off, and call security to escort them out of the park if there is an issue.

If you see a guest disturbing other guests, or yourself, it's your responsibility to inform a CM.

The key to stopping irresponsible activity is not to take away more freedom, but to punish those who misuse the freedoms to the furthest extent possible.
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:19 AM   #7
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This guy obviously has anger management issues. Alcohol was not the sole problem here. He is the problem. As he is like a loaded weapon just waiting to go off. Sadly, it just happened to be at Disney World. The event most likely enticed him to go there and the alcohol played the part of lowering his inhibitions. But you have to be a total lunatic to get drunk and start a fight with innocent people at the happiest place on earth.
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Old 10-15-2013, 09:11 AM   #8
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I was at F&W last year and wish I was there this year. I enjoyed a Soju slush at the Korea stand (alcohol included) and a beer in Germany. We had an excellent time and frankly, I am not a big drinker, but love trying new drinks.
That being said, there were several very well behaved groups (with matching t-shirts) partying there. They looked like bachelorette and bachelor parties. I see nothing wrong w/ drinking at WDW as long as no one is over-served. Its fun and if people don't like it, they can easy avoid WS at Epcot.
Its unfortunate there was a fight, but its definitely not the norm. I've seen people fight at The Laugh Floor before, so I'm not sure that not serving alcohol would help avoid all fights.

Just my opinion of course.
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Old 10-15-2013, 09:52 AM   #9
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It is unfortunate that this happened, but it was only a matter of time. We were at F&W several years ago. We went on a weekend, which was a mistake because EPCOT was overloaded with bus loads of drunk people. So when we went last year, we stayed away from F&W on the weekends. It was a much more enjoyable time. Still many drunk people, but I used it as a lesson for my kids as to what not to do when they get older.
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Old 10-15-2013, 10:13 AM   #10
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We very much like to be able to drink in the parks. Its just one of the things we look forward to. Whether its a beer or drinking around the world in Epcot, its fun and there is no reason it can't be done responsibly. It was especially awesome for F&G when the world showcase pavilions were offering special drinks. Some of them were fantastic and we had a ton of laughs by the time we were reaching the end

That being said, responsibility is the key.

The issue isn't drunk or not, though certainly people are more likely to be rowdy when drunk. But I have seen many people, not old enough to drink, also acting like complete idiots, banging into people, endangering themselves or others. Etc etc. Disney certainly could do a better job of getting these people out of the parks, but I don't think removing the alcohol from the parks is the answer.
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Old 10-15-2013, 10:30 AM   #11
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Remember anything is enhanced by alcohol so being stupid or having anger issues falls under those categories. Responsibility is with the person doing the action, once we as Americans accept responsibility for ourselves, then we can make a difference.

Disney needs not change their policies, just monitor these individuals or rowdy behavior closer. I have drank at Epcot with my older sons and will continue to, but we do it with moderation and respect.

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I love drinking at WDW and DLR. My husband and I work drinks into our budget when we go (usually Disney Visa reward dollars). Drinking isn't the problem, it's the people who drink in excess or who choose not to be responsible.
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Old 10-15-2013, 10:36 AM   #13
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I don't know how anyone can afford to get stinkin' drunk at Epcot! Drinks are very expensive at Epcot .
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Completely agree. A good bartender should always be paying attention to the level of intoxication of their customers and deciding when to cut them off. If someone comes up acting belligerent, it's the bartender's responsibility to cut them off, and call security to escort them out of the park if there is an issue.

If you see a guest disturbing other guests, or yourself, it's your responsibility to inform a CM.

The key to stopping irresponsible activity is not to take away more freedom, but to punish those who misuse the freedoms to the furthest extent possible.
Funny you say that ...

Last year while at F&W we stopped at Canada and there was a gentleman in line in front of us and he was obviously very intoxicated, he was slurring his words and "bobbing" back and forth as he stood in line ... when he made it up to the cashier they denied him a drink - he got visibily upset and left the line.

I got my brew and sat down to enjoy it all while keeping an eye on the drunk guy ... I watched him, go down the walk way a bit, take off his "Drinking around the world Jersey" he had on and then attempt to get right back in line with just his plain white T shirt on .... and again he was denied ... So he takes his money that he has in his hands and throws it at the cashier and storms off into the crowd.

I sat there for about 15 minutes while enjoying my beer, and the guy never came back. As I walked away, there was the guy being escorted out by a few CM's!
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Just and FYI the "W" in F&W stands for "wine". I just wanted to clarify that for some people ie:OP, in case they didn't know.
Oh and also it will cost you around 200 to successfully drink around the world. And it's one hell of a time, if your able to (terribly sorry for being harsh ) take the stick out of your ***.

How many gifts have you heard about at Disney due to alcohol? This is the first I've heard about one in years...

Oh before I forget ... This is just my opinion
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