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Old 09-04-2013, 09:09 AM   #1126
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Is anyone else training for WDW Marathon using the Galloway Experienced training plan to finish in the upright position and doing ToT? Reason I ask is for ToT weekend it calls for a 15mi. Any suggestions on how to adjust accordingly or would you not worry about it knowing you'll get plenty of mileage in walking the parks the next week? I've posted in ToT thread as well, thanks for any and all suggestions!
You could head out for a 5-miler in the morning so your total mileage is still 15. Galloway considers splits still the same as it's time on feet. I'm personally running a race in the morning in Jacksonville and then the TOT that night. Honestly, I wouldn't sweat it but your next high-mileage day may feel a bit tough.
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Old 09-04-2013, 05:19 PM   #1127
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Thanks for advice - thinking I'll get up and do my usual 45min to enjoy my quiet time and get legs moving before breakfast, then expo and rest before the race. That plus all the walking will surly be close enough to the 15!
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Old 09-06-2013, 10:32 AM   #1128
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Hi!!

I just want to start by saying that this board has easily become my new favorite go to for running and training tips and motivation. It's amazing!!

So I've been battling what the doctor thinks are bad shin splints (no visible break or point tender spot) in my inner right lower leg since the beginning of July (since the first week I started training for the Goofy). Suffice to say I have learned my lesson not to jump right into a training plan after running once every other week for the past year!

I took a week and a half off after the 9 mile run in the Galloway plan and have been RICE-ing nonstop. My leg finally had no pain at all yesterday, so I chanced it and ran a very easy 2 miles at a 10 mm pace (after thorough stretching of course! ). It felt GREAT! I purposely shortened my stride and increased my cadence to make sure I was mid foot landing, and while it felt odd at first by the end it felt almost normal! My leg even felt great afterwards and while walking, which is when it's been most annoying, though I made sure to ice it, foam roll it, and wore my compression sleeves to be safe!

It was the first time I've run in months without any issues!! When I got home I was all smiles and my DH thought I was crazy to get that excited over a run!

About 6 hours after my run (after 6 hours of sitting around lol) it started to feel tight in that area, and this morning again it's feeling tight. I guess it didn't go away entirely, but I feel like I can't take anymore time off, as I am nervous about this being my first full (and only 2nd half!), and the two of them back to back!

Is there anything else I should be doing? I don't want this to turn into a stress fracture, but I have a high pain tolerance (and it never hurts when running anyway- only after and when walking), so I'm fine with training through it if it will eventually go away.

Also, Galloway's plan calls for 11 miles this week- and I'm not experienced with this so I'm not sure what to do. Do I shorten that so I don't make my leg worse and work my way up again, or is the one week off no big deal and should I just go for it at an easy pace?

Thanks!
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Old 09-06-2013, 10:45 AM   #1129
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Old 09-06-2013, 10:48 AM   #1130
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Training for the Goofy in January. It'll be my first full and only second half! I feel like I've bit off more than I can chew, as I'm really not a runner, but I love challenging myself!
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Old 09-06-2013, 01:11 PM   #1131
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I feel like I can't take anymore time off...

...I'm fine with training through it if it will eventually go away.
I've only been seriously training for the last 8 months, but in my very limited experience, when I've approached little injuries with this mindset, they've gotten worse, not better. I think you'll spend less time off resting now than you're likely to miss later should the condition worsen to the point where you *can't* run without pain.
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Old 09-06-2013, 01:14 PM   #1132
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Hi!!

I just want to start by saying that this board has easily become my new favorite go to for running and training tips and motivation. It's amazing!!

So I've been battling what the doctor thinks are bad shin splints (no visible break or point tender spot) in my inner right lower leg since the beginning of July (since the first week I started training for the Goofy). Suffice to say I have learned my lesson not to jump right into a training plan after running once every other week for the past year!

I took a week and a half off after the 9 mile run in the Galloway plan and have been RICE-ing nonstop. My leg finally had no pain at all yesterday, so I chanced it and ran a very easy 2 miles at a 10 mm pace (after thorough stretching of course! ). It felt GREAT! I purposely shortened my stride and increased my cadence to make sure I was mid foot landing, and while it felt odd at first by the end it felt almost normal! My leg even felt great afterwards and while walking, which is when it's been most annoying, though I made sure to ice it, foam roll it, and wore my compression sleeves to be safe!

It was the first time I've run in months without any issues!! When I got home I was all smiles and my DH thought I was crazy to get that excited over a run!

About 6 hours after my run (after 6 hours of sitting around lol) it started to feel tight in that area, and this morning again it's feeling tight. I guess it didn't go away entirely, but I feel like I can't take anymore time off, as I am nervous about this being my first full (and only 2nd half!), and the two of them back to back!

Is there anything else I should be doing? I don't want this to turn into a stress fracture, but I have a high pain tolerance (and it never hurts when running anyway- only after and when walking), so I'm fine with training through it if it will eventually go away.

Also, Galloway's plan calls for 11 miles this week- and I'm not experienced with this so I'm not sure what to do. Do I shorten that so I don't make my leg worse and work my way up again, or is the one week off no big deal and should I just go for it at an easy pace?

Thanks!
I empathize with you. Shin splints are the worst pain I have ever had. The only thing that worked for me was taking a full three weeks off. During that time, I worked on my core, my balance, and I hit the foam roller every day. (My PT thought that my shin splints came from being a wobbly runner).

Good luck with everything.
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Old 09-06-2013, 02:24 PM   #1133
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I am floored at how quickly the time is flying by. It feels like last year, it took F.O.R.E.V.E.R. from the time I purchased my Goofy entry until the actual Goofy weekend. Now, Dopey is creeping up on me.

11 mile run this weekend on the books. First really long run since both foot fractures - let's see how it goes.
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:06 PM   #1134
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Just wondering what other's experience is as far as how long Body Glide will last. The most I have run in my training so far is 10 miles (11 tomorrow) and so far the Body Glide has held up. I am just wondering if I will need to reapply at some point as the runs get longer. I am guessing it could depend on the amount of time I am running too, not just distance.

I ran the Wine & Dine 1/2 in 2011 before I had heard of Body Glide and I was hurting for a few day afterwards. I do not want to experience that again.
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:24 PM   #1135
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:31 PM   #1136
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Thank you for the responses!

It wasn't exactly what I wanted to hear, but I trust and respect the knowledge of all you more experienced runners, and I would be silly to not listen

This far today I haven't had any pain, just tightness in the muscles, so I'm going to keep stretching, icing, and foam rolling, and I'll try another light run tomorrow. If it gets better then yay! If not, then I'll take an extended period of time off and RICE some more, and hope it all goes away.

How does one catch up with a training plan after taking time off?

Thank you again!! This board is making me so excited for this, and is making me almost think I can actually do it!!
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:40 PM   #1137
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Thanks for the responses!

While it wasn't what I wanted to hear, I definitely trust the experience of other more knowledgeable runners

My leg isn't hurting at all today, it's just tight, so I'm going to keep icing and try another light run tomorrow. If the pain comes back at all I'm definitely going to heed the advice and take an extended time off as suggested.

If I have to take time off, how do I get caught up with the training plan again?

Thank you so much!! This board is making me so much more excited for this!!
Depends on how long off. If one or two weeks, just hop back on the program. If a more than that, blend back in. So if you missed a 9 and 11 mile run and your first run back was to be 13, consider making the comeback run a 10-11 miler and then get caught up the next week. If off longer than that, lets discuss.

Note in reading above, shin splints are a tough fix. Next run, go out for 10 minutes or so then do calf stretches along with plantar flexion stretches (toe pointing). Then pick you run up slowly.

If your shoes are getting along in miles, it may be time to replace them... if you did not get fitted for your current shoes, consider going to a running store.

Also, you may want to just pull back on miles. Sometimes shin splints come from adding too many miles too quickly. - something to consider.

Finally, mentally try to shorten your stride an inch os so. The flopping the foot goes through due to an overstride can create the splints.

Really, finally, if this does not correct itself in a couple more weeks, head to the doc. A hard tissue issue could be the cause and you would not want ot try to push through that.
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Old 09-06-2013, 09:02 PM   #1138
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Depends on how long off. If one or two weeks, just hop back on the program. If a more than that, blend back in. So if you missed a 9 and 11 mile run and your first run back was to be 13, consider making the comeback run a 10-11 miler and then get caught up the next week. If off longer than that, lets discuss.

Note in reading above, shin splints are a tough fix. Next run, go out for 10 minutes or so then do calf stretches along with plantar flexion stretches (toe pointing). Then pick you run up slowly.

If your shoes are getting along in miles, it may be time to replace them... if you did not get fitted for your current shoes, consider going to a running store.

Also, you may want to just pull back on miles. Sometimes shin splints come from adding too many miles too quickly. - something to consider.

Finally, mentally try to shorten your stride an inch os so. The flopping the foot goes through due to an overstride can create the splints.

Really, finally, if this does not correct itself in a couple more weeks, head to the doc. A hard tissue issue could be the cause and you would not want ot try to push through that.
Thank you thank you thank you!!!!

It was definitely the increase in mileage that got me. I went from running 2-3 every other week right into Galloway's Goofy training, and my right leg felt it after week two!

The shoes I have were two weeks old when I started training in July, and they are the same ones I used for my other half (Spira Stingers). I love them, and have never had problems with them in the past

I went to a running store to double check, and they told me I supinate when I run, but that the shoes seemed fine. The one thing they did tell me was that I over stride when I walk, and that I am right leg dominant- basically my left leg doesn't do any work and is just there to look pretty! :-P

The doctor I went to is a sports med guy, and didn't think there was anything doing besides shin splints. He took an X-ray and poked around and felt nothing that made him too worried.

I've now had this issue since the 2nd week of July, and the more mileage I run the more sore afterwards it was getting, so I was getting very worried!

I ran my 9 miler a few weeks ago, but hadn't run since then until yesterday (so about 10 days off). I ran an easy 2 yesterday, actively trying to focus on shortening my stride like you said, and it felt great! The leg feels tight today, but not painful at least! I'm due for 11 miles tomorrow, but am nervous about jumping right back to that both in terms of conditioning and re-aggravating my leg.

I will definitely try your suggestion of warming up then stretching, and I may try to push myself to go 10 miles to work back into the plan as you said would be good.

Thank you SO much for your advice!! I've been feeling so clueless as to what to do with this, and the doctor wasn't useful, so I really appreciate all of this!!
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Just wondering what other's experience is as far as how long Body Glide will last. The most I have run in my training so far is 10 miles (11 tomorrow) and so far the Body Glide has held up. I am just wondering if I will need to reapply at some point as the runs get longer. I am guessing it could depend on the amount of time I am running too, not just distance.

I ran the Wine & Dine 1/2 in 2011 before I had heard of Body Glide and I was hurting for a few day afterwards. I do not want to experience that again.
I used half a stick of bodyglide before the full marathon putting it everywhere and anywhere,putting extra layers in areas like my inner thighs and my feet.I also brought with me on the race a mini travel sized one that was easier to carry on the race.At mile 12 something in the bathrooms next to Everest I reapplied and had no issues for the rest of the race.However after I finished the marathon and was walking back to the bus I started getting some chafing in my inner thighs and by the time I got to the room I was in pain.I have used bodyglide for years and it's always worked excellent,all I can say is that it got me through 26.2 miles without issues but for next year I'm reapplying three times in the race if I have to so even after the race I won't experience any chafing.
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Just wondering what other's experience is as far as how long Body Glide will last. The most I have run in my training so far is 10 miles (11 tomorrow) and so far the Body Glide has held up. I am just wondering if I will need to reapply at some point as the runs get longer. I am guessing it could depend on the amount of time I am running too, not just distance.

I ran the Wine & Dine 1/2 in 2011 before I had heard of Body Glide and I was hurting for a few day afterwards. I do not want to experience that again.
I have only used body glide in 1/2 marathons and it worked until I ran R&R Nashville in the rain this year. It totally washed away and left me with major chafing. I changed to Sport Shield because it is supposed to be rainproof So far no repeat of problems but I also haven't done 13.1 in pouring rain. You might want to check it out as well
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