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Old 01-08-2013, 08:52 AM   #16
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I would report the incident to the airline. I don't think pets can roam free. Here's the rules for USAirways:

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Old 01-08-2013, 09:16 AM   #17
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I'm going to call you on this one -- FAA rules do not allow animals (even service animals) to freely "roam around" the plane. Aside from the obvious annoyance and danger to passengers, it would be dangerous for the cat AND the FAs, as they try to service the cabin. I'd bet that either someone misheard something or the FA was kidding and that got missed in translation. Or ... you're exaggerating. Which airline was this?

As for a "pet free" flight, yes, you can ask if there are any animals scheduled to be on your flight, but you can't call and say, "I need a pet-free flight" and expect the booking agent to go through every manifest and guarantee you one. There are airlines that have less welcoming policies towards pets on planes, so doing a little research to find out which airlines carry the most and the fewest pets will help the chances of finding a pet-free flight. A travel agent might do that for you -- I know there are TAs that handle all sorts of requests, so there must be some who will make sure that there are no animals on a particular flight.

But really ... it's not at all common -- even in this day and age of "our pets are just like people" sensibilities -- to see pets on planes. It's not like it's something someone has to worry about, IMO. I flew 47 flight legs in the US, Canada and Central America last summer, on a half-dozen airlines. There was not a single flight that had an animal on it.

I've flown with both cats and dogs -- with animals in the baggage section as well as in the passenger cabin. There are strict limits as to how many pets per flight (animal-to-human ratio), based mostly on safety and the ability to evacuate both people AND animals should there be an emergency.

The FA was being snarky to the passenger, which should be reported. But I simply don't believe that any FA on any major domestic carrier told a passenger that they could let their cat "roam around the plane".



Totally agree!


No way would a flight attendant allow a cat to roam freely on a plane. And where is the rest of the crew? That's why I find this hard to believe it was on a major airline, there is always more than one flight attendant. The only thing I can come up with was that this happened on a regional carrier?


I know some airlines don't allow any pets on planes above or below the wing so maybe that was the "pet free flight". But I've never heard of pet free flights above the wing. I know below the wing there are only certain times of year for the safety of the animals.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:11 AM   #18
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Given that service animals are allowed and could possibly be on any flight, not sure that any flight could be booked as totally pet free in advance....
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:12 AM   #19
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I am moderately allergic to cats, though not to the point of anaphylaxis, and I would be completely skeeved if there was a cat roaming around. I don't hate cats, but I can't stand them to touch me or sit near me.

The FA was waaaaay outta line and i think I would call or email the airline to complain about her. Not only did she suggest something dangerous, which is very likely against regulations, she completely humiliated a consumer. She deserves to be disciplined for her actions.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:31 AM   #20
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Wow. I reallllllly should have known better than to post on this board. Everyone here is so friendly and kind, aren't they?

I can assure you that the incident really happened. It was on a Delta flight from Cinncinnati to Madison, WI. I would have gotten the FA's name myself but the FA was not wearing a name tag and wouldn't give her name to the man when he asked.

Believe me or not.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:46 AM   #21
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I would report the incident to the airline. I don't think pets can roam free. Here's the rules for USAirways:
I think thats an FAA rule and not just an airline rule..
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:04 PM   #22
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Wow. I reallllllly should have known better than to post on this board. Everyone here is so friendly and kind, aren't they?

I can assure you that the incident really happened. It was on a Delta flight from Cinncinnati to Madison, WI. I would have gotten the FA's name myself but the FA was not wearing a name tag and wouldn't give her name to the man when he asked.

Believe me or not.
I don't think it's either unfriendly or unkind to think that you might have either misheard something or been exaggerating. But I guess that depends on how you read stuff.

Your OP doesn't mention if you personally heard the FA, or if it was the other passenger who heard the comment and then related it to you. If it was the latter, then there certainly could have been something lost in translation, particularly if the other passenger was already upset.

I still vote for "said in fun, but not received that way" regarding the "roam around" comment.

The FA was out of line with pretty much everything else.

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Old 01-08-2013, 01:08 PM   #23
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Wow. I reallllllly should have known better than to post on this board. Everyone here is so friendly and kind, aren't they?

I can assure you that the incident really happened. It was on a Delta flight from Cinncinnati to Madison, WI. I would have gotten the FA's name myself but the FA was not wearing a name tag and wouldn't give her name to the man when he asked.

Believe me or not.
If I was in your shoes, I'd write about the incident to the airline. I'm not normally one to do that, but for the FA to refuse to give her name when asked, well that would set me over the edge. I'd have been writing the letter on the plane, lol! I imagine that the gentleman involved is planning to do the same, so I'd send a letter in to support him.
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:23 PM   #24
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Wow. I reallllllly should have known better than to post on this board. Everyone here is so friendly and kind, aren't they?

I can assure you that the incident really happened. It was on a Delta flight from Cinncinnati to Madison, WI. I would have gotten the FA's name myself but the FA was not wearing a name tag and wouldn't give her name to the man when he asked.

Believe me or not.
Huh?

That said. I've flown with cats a few times. Both times the FA was quite clear that they had to remain in the carrier under the seat.

When exiting the plane, even if you don't have a name a complaint w/the flight number and a general description should suffice should you ever encounter a situation where you need to make a complaint again.
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:29 PM   #25
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It would have been an obnoxious FA. I would have reported him and the incident to the airline.

And, as a person owned by two cats, I realize if the cat had gotten out of the carrier in flight there is no way it could have been caught to be placed back in the carrier prior to the aircraft door being opened.
I would agree. There is NO way my cat would go back in the carrier after being let out on a flight. She would also pee on everything from fright.
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Old 01-08-2013, 01:34 PM   #26
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I've flown with my cat before. It was not the most pleasant experience of my adult life!!! Nothing better than taking a scared and nervous cat out of it's carrier and holding it in your arms as you through security!! I intentionally booked a seat that had no one in the immediate area. Then, just before travel day, I noticed that passengers had been seated all around me.
When I got to the gate, I asked the GA if I could change my seat to one with no one in my row, and with as few people in the immediate area as possible. The woman was really rude....she said, and I quote..'Oh, don't you like people??? Or are you just antisocial??' I was quite taken aback. I told her I had a cat with me and didn't want the cat to bother anyone, and had already changed my seat several times. She just rolled her eyes and said there were empty rows but they were in the extreme rear of the plane!! Not an issue for me. But, there was a nice couple in the row in front of me. Not sure why she didn't move me back to the last row, and keep the row in front of me, which would have been over the cat, empty. There was a lot of room on that flight...Delta by the way. This is what I find when looking at travel with my pet.......

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Your pet must be at least 10 weeks old for Domestic and International travel.
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Exception: Two pets of the same species and size may be allowed to travel in one kennel, provide they are small enough to fit into one kennel and are compatible. They will be charged as one pet.
Pets are accepted on a first-come, first-serve basis. Call Delta in advance at 800-221-1212 to arrange to bring your pet on board. To ensure the comfort of all of our passengers, Delta limits the number of total pets per flight.


As you can see, pets are not allowed out of their 'carriers'. Not sure why any FA would go against company policy. If I had heard a FA make that announcement, I would have sent off an email to Delta. If her name wasn't available, I would have been sure to give the flight number, day of travel, my itinerary number. That way they could track her down and retrain her.

I was lucky. My cat (actually my son's cat, I was flying it down to Florida for him) was very quiet. She cried a little upon takeoff and landing, but was quiet the rest of the time. I did ask the couple in front of me if they had any allergy issues with cats. They didn't, I stopped worrying.
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:09 PM   #27
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The only time I could see myself taking a pet on a plane (cargo or in the cabin) was if I were moving or had to take the animal to some kid of specialist.
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:27 PM   #28
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Wow. I reallllllly should have known better than to post on this board. Everyone here is so friendly and kind, aren't they?

I can assure you that the incident really happened. It was on a Delta flight from Cinncinnati to Madison, WI. I would have gotten the FA's name myself but the FA was not wearing a name tag and wouldn't give her name to the man when he asked.

Believe me or not.

Looked it up, it was a regional carrier, Pinnacle Airlines which works in cooperation with Delta as a Delta Connection Carrier. Therefore, it could be a relatively easy to write it up as she was likely the only flight attendant on the plane.


However, if she was working with another crew member, I can't imagine the other crew member going along with her! It is against FAA and really just plain stupid. If that was the case, it would lead me to the conclusion her statement was made in jest. Sure, she could have had an extremely dry sense of humor and the joke wasn't read as one. (I'd also say it was in poor taste too.)


Write it up. If she was solo it would be easy to figure out who she was. If it was a 2 person crew, give a physical description. Supervisors will be able to identify the crew member that way.
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:06 PM   #29
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I havn't had any animals on flights that I have been on before. I have to remember this, I have a child who is allergic to dogs. He takes his regular meds everyday anyway, but then I can have his inhaler handy if he needs it. Good to know!
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:22 PM   #30
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I've flown both nationally and internationally with a cat. I have been told every time that she must stay locked in her carrier. The most I've ever done is sneak a hand in to give her a bit of love. There is no way I'd let her roam, even if I were allowed. Cats are unpredictable and most do not feel secure in unfamiliar surroundings. My snuggling ball of love is a raging ball of terror at the vet. Much better for all concerned that she stay snug in her carrier.

Different airlines have different regulations, but when I flew domestically in Canada, she had to be in a soft sided carrier. It looked just like a bag, and unless you looked quite closely, you would never have known there was a cat on board. It's different when she's had to be in the bigger, hard case carriers. I've heard people on the DIS complain about allowing pets onboard, but never in real life.
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