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Old 01-10-2013, 04:58 PM   #481
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Unless there's still something we're missing (and there very well could be), Disney had to know that WDW veterans who have spent years perfecting their FP maximization strategies were going to HATE this FP+ idea. But I think they view that demographic as such a small part of their revenue stream, that they are willing to lose some good will there, and maybe completely lose a few loyal fans altogether. But you know what? There will be thousands more to replace us, as new parents start bringing their kids - parents who never knew there was an old version of FP. And they're going to LOVE FP+ (maybe because of marketing as much as anything else), and they're going to be the new die-hard fans who want to keep coming back.
Exactly and this is why they came up with Fastpass+. Disney always has a mindset as to how they 'want' things to run. When that does not happen, they slowly change it to what they want it to be even to not allowing you to come back after the designated time. That was never the way the program was suppose to work. Did they allow it, sure, because Disney hates aggressive enforcement of anything. So they have now come up with something to eliminate the "super" fast pass users without being actively aggressive about it.

From the beginning they probably wanted no one to have more than 3 per person per park.

And as you say, they don't have to please everyone, just enough to be profitable.

As the saying goes, "we have seen the enemy and he is us"
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Old 01-10-2013, 04:59 PM   #482
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(probably) You would save the bracelet. That bracelet will continue to let you into the parks as long as there are admissions remaining on the ticket loaded onto it. That bracelet would not open any room doors and would not let you charge any meals or purchases. You may or may not be issued another bracelet for the latter functions. You will be allowed to transfer the remaining admissions onto the second bracelet provided that there were no admissions from a new package ticket already on that second bracelet.
Remember there is NOTHING on the bracelet but a link to your account, you wouldn't have to save an old bracelet with tickets on it, just have them issue you a new one when you showed up the next time wanting to utilize any tickets left in your account, only the account matters, not the bracelet.
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Old 01-10-2013, 06:17 PM   #483
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Three fastpasses in advance. No cap on total fastpasses has been officially given.
Has this been stated explicitly? I know that FP+ 3 in advance has been given. AND if you are not using FP+ no cap on FP-. But, if a customer choses FP+, 3 is the limit (with a few surprises here and there).
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Has this been stated explicitly? I know that FP+ 3 in advance has been given. AND if you are not using FP+ no cap on FP-. But, if a customer choses FP+, 3 is the limit (with a few surprises here and there).
That's a pretty critical piece of this. And I have yet to see anything on it.

My guess is that they don't want to commit. Maybe during low crowd times, they will offer additional FP's, but that's when you don't really need them. My guess is that when you need them most, they won't offer additional ones.
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Old 01-10-2013, 06:23 PM   #485
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I haven't the time to wade through the whole thread, but I've scanned as much as I can. Has Disney stated a for-sure date when this will be started for everyone? I know it is in limited use now, but we are going to be there April 2-8 - will we definitely be getting the wristbands? Also, how far in advance can you book your FP+ if you choose to participate?

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That's a pretty critical piece of this. And I have yet to see anything on it.

My guess is that they don't want to commit. Maybe during low crowd times, they will offer additional FP's, but that's when you don't really need them. My guess is that when you need them most, they won't offer additional ones.
I think they are going offer surprise FP for those on FP+... You get to the park, at RD but your 1st FP is not until 3pm...
Then boom FP for buzz or another non- headliner from 9-10am
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Has this been stated explicitly? I know that FP+ 3 in advance has been given. AND if you are not using FP+ no cap on FP-. But, if a customer choses FP+, 3 is the limit (with a few surprises here and there).
Did you watch the video with the SVP in charge of NextGen? He specifically says they will let guests choose 3 FP+ in advance, but they have the expectation to be able to give "additional" surprises and FP+ as they go along. But I'm notsure if that means them making adjustments, or guests as they go through the day in the park, or whatever.
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I haven't the time to wade through the whole thread, but I've scanned as much as I can. Has Disney stated a for-sure date when this will be started for everyone? I know it is in limited use now, but we are going to be there April 2-8 - will we definitely be getting the wristbands? Also, how far in advance can you book your FP+ if you choose to participate?

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No release date yet.. They said spring 2013...
You should be able to book up to 60 days in advance..

But the real question is what happens if they roll it out on April 5..... Will you get an email 60days before hand to let you have the time to set up FP+ or will you have to make them on the fly after its rolled out?

This is my big fear....
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No release date yet.. They said spring 2013...
You should be able to book up to 60 days in advance..

But the real question is what happens if they roll it out on April 5..... Will you get an email 60days before hand to let you have the time to set up FP+ or will you have to make them on the fly after its rolled out?

This is my big fear....
Yes exactly! This is my fear as well - that and being the "guinea pig" for this new system.
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So do you guys have visions of them announcing something saying everyone within 60 days of their trips can log on next Monday at 7 AM (or whatever dayt) to reserve their FP slots?

I hope none of you remember the fiasco that went on when they opened BOG ADRs. It might give you nightmares.
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So do you guys have visions of them announcing something saying everyone within 60 days of their trips can log on next Monday at 7 AM (or whatever dayt) to reserve their FP slots?

I hope none of you remember the fiasco that went on when they opened BOG ADRs. It might give you nightmares.
I've heard about it... it is part of the reason I am worried...
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I'm new here- haven't been on the threads in a long time....this FP plus thing will offer 3 FPs in advance with possibility for more upon arrival....but if you go that route you can't get any regular FPs? I can stack FPs all day no problem. We are very good at planning it out and arriving early. I can ride TSM 3 times in 1 day all by 11am!

Seems like the regular FPs might be the way to go for our commando family.
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(probably) You would save the bracelet. That bracelet will continue to let you into the parks as long as there are admissions remaining on the ticket loaded onto it. That bracelet would not open any room doors and would not let you charge any meals or purchases.
As long as you had a credit card linked to your profile, you could still charge with the bracelets.
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So do you guys have visions of them announcing something saying everyone within 60 days of their trips can log on next Monday at 7 AM (or whatever dayt) to reserve their FP slots?

I hope none of you remember the fiasco that went on when they opened BOG ADRs. It might give you nightmares.
Rumor is that they will roll it out slowly, first to guests at one resort, then another, etc. and along the way probably pick up AP holders, PhotoPass+ purchasers, and non-resort guests. They can accelerate the rollout as they work out the kinks and resources are available.

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I'm new here- haven't been on the threads in a long time....this FP plus thing will offer 3 FPs in advance with possibility for more upon arrival....but if you go that route you can't get any regular FPs? I can stack FPs all day no problem. We are very good at planning it out and arriving early. I can ride TSM 3 times in 1 day all by 11am!

Seems like the regular FPs might be the way to go for our commando family.
I expect FP to be gone within a year, once FP+ is available to everyone.
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So do you guys have visions of them announcing something saying everyone within 60 days of their trips can log on next Monday at 7 AM (or whatever dayt) to reserve their FP slots?

I hope none of you remember the fiasco that went on when they opened BOG ADRs. It might give you nightmares.
I didn't hear.. Go ahead a tell me... :-(
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