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Old 01-07-2013, 08:33 PM   #151
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I am pooh sized.....I view the turnstiles as a skinny unpleasant barrier...and strollers don't go thru the turnstiles anyway...really?! I guess he couldn't say "pooh sized" guests hated the turnstiles..not politically correct! So name the one group that doesn't even use them! Genius!!!
Good catch! Now it is even a sillier comment.
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:48 PM   #153
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Between the ADR system, EMHs, and this new Fastpass + system, a family that doesn't plan for months in advance is destined to be disappointed.....

Going to Disney is becoming a chore, which means it is definitely falling on my list of vacation choices. Plus, the idea of a tier system linked to the resort level is irritating me beyond belief - and I have stayed at hotels in each resort level.
Same here. Even if I'm not forced to use any of this new stuff it's still a huge turn off.
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Old 01-08-2013, 12:19 AM   #154
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Here's a question:

When you convernt a paper ticket to RFID online in order to use FP+, can you, at the same time, add days to it? Or, do I have to wait until I get to the parks to upgrade it, which would prevent me from reserving FP+ 60 days out for the days I plan to add?
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Forgive me if this has been answered but my question is, do we just pick which 3 (or whatever) rides we want on a given day, or do we have to guess at times too? Also do the shows/parades/fireworks come out of your same "bucket" as the 3 (or whatever) rides? I'm so confused lol. All I know is my next trip is in less than a month and then we won't be at WDW again for at least 2 years, so if they'll just wait to roll it out until after my trip I can gain insight from y'all for the next time!
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Forgive me if this has been answered but my question is, do we just pick which 3 (or whatever) rides we want on a given day, or do we have to guess at times too? Also do the shows/parades/fireworks come out of your same "bucket" as the 3 (or whatever) rides? I'm so confused lol. All I know is my next trip is in less than a month and then we won't be at WDW again for at least 2 years, so if they'll just wait to roll it out until after my trip I can gain insight from y'all for the next time!
The testing did have people pick specific time windows for each FP+ reservation. As far as having parades and fireworks coming out of your three FP+ reservations, it did happen that way in testing. But until the system is rolled out officially, it's hard to gauge what the rules will be.
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Here's a question:

When you convernt a paper ticket to RFID online in order to use FP+, can you, at the same time, add days to it? Or, do I have to wait until I get to the parks to upgrade it, which would prevent me from reserving FP+ 60 days out for the days I plan to add?
I will add it to the list. I wonder if the website will be I tuned enough to analyze your linked ticket and then offer you an extended ticket to accommodate your entire stay. This would allow you to book your ARR (advanced ride reservations) at 60 day window. It could also be an incentive to keep you from jumping to sea world or universal for a few days.
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Another issue is the redistribution of fastpasses among family members. With the current system, even though my DD3 will have a ticket, she won't be tall enough to ride certsin attractions, to the point her ticket will be unused. I'm thinking Epcot, for example.

On that situation, I'll get the fast pass anyway and use it with another memer of my touring group. Don't know how it will work with FP+.

I'm also thinking that the days of giving away unused fast passes to other Guests are over.

Finally, we are mostly off site people and can't imagine how all this stuff will work out for us.

We'll have to wait and see.

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Now that at least some of the speculation about Fastpass+ has been confirmed, it really doesn't make me feel better about any of it.

I have no intention of using the new system when we go. This is only my opinion, but for me it turns the planning aspect of a Disney vacation from a pleasure into a chore. The main reasons I would not be using it are that I don't want to plan my FPs in advance, I don't want to limit myself to 3 and I don't want to limit myself to using FP in one park. I also don't want to be tied to a smartphone, computer or kiosk for the duration of my vacation.

My main concern, which I really hope will turn out to be another case of me over-reacting , is that the park experience for those of us who don't want to use it will be noticeably downgraded. My fear is that by attempting to tour the parks as we always have, we will miss out on FPs for popular rides as they have already been booked well in advance and that despite being happy to wait an hour plus for good viewing for parades and fireworks, we will no longer be able to do this as all the best areas will have been pre-booked.

Feel free to tell me if I'm getting carried away as I would be completely relieved to know that this is just my imagination running away
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Now that at least some of the speculation about Fastpass+ has been confirmed, it really doesn't make me feel better about any of it.

I have no intention of using the new system when we go. This is only my opinion, but for me it turns the planning aspect of a Disney vacation from a pleasure into a chore. The main reasons I would not be using it are that I don't want to plan my FPs in advance, I don't want to limit myself to 3 and I don't want to limit myself to using FP in one park. I also don't want to be tied to a smartphone, computer or kiosk for the duration of my vacation.

My main concern, which I really hope will turn out to be another case of me over-reacting , is that the park experience for those of us who don't want to use it will be noticeably downgraded. My fear is that by attempting to tour the parks as we always have, we will miss out on FPs for popular rides as they have already been booked well in advance and that despite being happy to wait an hour plus for good viewing for parades and fireworks, we will no longer be able to do this as all the best areas will have been pre-booked.

Feel free to tell me if I'm getting carried away as I would be completely relieved to know that this is just my imagination running away
From Disney via nytimes: "Prodding guests to do more advance planning, combined with the tracking of guests as they roam the parks, will help Disney manage its work force more efficiently. More advance planning will also help lock visitors into Disney once they arrive in Orlando, discouraging people, for instance, from making impromptu visits to Universal’s Wizarding World of Harry Potter."
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so do you need the MagicBand in order to use FP+? I'm confused....

Guests who stay off property at non-Disney hotels will get a ticket with touch features that will provide park entry, allow for redeeming FastPass+, and touch to pay. Purchasing a MagicBand and participation in the “My Disney Experience” is optional for these guests.
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Sorry if this has been asked I did look through this very helpful thread ( thank you for compiling it ) but did not see it. How will GAC be affected? At the moment I use my GAC card will I now be expected to book through FP+ instead? This would not work for me as due to health issues and being disabled I cannot predict from day to day let alone weeks in advance when I am well enough to ride an attraction.
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Now that at least some of the speculation about Fastpass+ has been confirmed, it really doesn't make me feel better about any of it.

I have no intention of using the new system when we go. This is only my opinion, but for me it turns the planning aspect of a Disney vacation from a pleasure into a chore. The main reasons I would not be using it are that I don't want to plan my FPs in advance, I don't want to limit myself to 3 and I don't want to limit myself to using FP in one park. I also don't want to be tied to a smartphone, computer or kiosk for the duration of my vacation.

My main concern, which I really hope will turn out to be another case of me over-reacting , is that the park experience for those of us who don't want to use it will be noticeably downgraded. My fear is that by attempting to tour the parks as we always have, we will miss out on FPs for popular rides as they have already been booked well in advance and that despite being happy to wait an hour plus for good viewing for parades and fireworks, we will no longer be able to do this as all the best areas will have been pre-booked.

Feel free to tell me if I'm getting carried away as I would be completely relieved to know that this is just my imagination running away

Your post sums up my thoughts exactly.

Unfortunately I don't think you are getting carried away, I'll take it a step further and say it will probably "force" you to participate. I forsee eventually them doing away with the old fast passes entirely. truthfully I see them getting rid of the standby lines totally also

I'm probably being ridiculously melodramatic but for my family we've already lost our love affair with the mouse world (and there is nothing wrong with that). some times a place changes and you realize it's no longer the place for you.
My family and I are wingers, I don't want to plan my vacations on the same level generals plan an invasion of a foriegn country. so for me this is just another thing on the "con" side of my list when I decide where to go on vacation.
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From Disney via nytimes: "Prodding guests to do more advance planning, combined with the tracking of guests as they roam the parks, will help Disney manage its work force more efficiently. More advance planning will also help lock visitors into Disney once they arrive in Orlando, discouraging people, for instance, from making impromptu visits to Universal’s Wizarding World of Harry Potter."
LOL. I find when companies use that term, it translates to "lay more folks off or hire less personnel".
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I have a question and apologize if already answered.

I am going in 6 weeks and a DVC member staying on points. I usually buy Tix through UT. Do I have to buy them through Disney in order to make use of this system IF it is up and running?

To be honest, if I don't have to, I don't think I will use the new system. I have zero faith at this point in any enhancement made by the IT dept. in Disney. But if the old system is phased out, I don't want to out of luck because I used UT.

Also, no real sense in getting a park hopper now, correct?
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