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Old 01-04-2013, 03:23 PM   #91
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I've been taking my kids since they were infants. We have always stood in line together. My kids learned at a very young age that WDW meant standing in lines and we taught them how to behave in line. It has NEVER been a problem. They learned quickly that if they misbehaved, we left the line and they didn't get to go on the attraction. With that being said, I have left the line to take them to use the potty and then rejoin my family when finished. I think that is different than not entering the line together or not until well after the rest of the family.
Exactly this. Not just at Disney but pretty much anywhere where you stand in long-ish lines (airports, movies, other theme parks, visiting Santa at the mall, etc).

Not saying it was an easy lesson to teach them but it was just one those things we felt was important enough to do when they were little.
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I've been taking my kids since they were infants. We have always stood in line together. My kids learned at a very young age that WDW meant standing in lines and we taught them how to behave in line. It has NEVER been a problem. They learned quickly that if they misbehaved, we left the line and they didn't get to go on the attraction. With that being said, I have left the line to take them to use the potty and then rejoin my family when finished. I think that is different than not entering the line together or not until well after the rest of the family.
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Old 01-04-2013, 03:38 PM   #93
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Well either the CM's are not following the instructions...or need to learn to count!

As you stated, for every 100 combined: the ratio would be 80 FPs to 20 SBs.....or for every 50 combined: 40 FP to 10 SB. This would be fine.

But this was clearly NOT the case for many of us. It was 50+ FP for every 3-5 SB. We stood there and counted.

According to the ratio for every 50 FP, around 13 SB should have been let through.
There are people who still use sb? The only time we ever use it is if the wait is 10 min or less or if there is not a Fp option.
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Old 01-04-2013, 03:51 PM   #94
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Anywhere on Disney property to get a money order?

I'm at Disney right now and I need to get a money order. (forgot checkbook at home) Does anyone know if there is a place to get one besides the Sunbank at DTD or the Bank of America in Celebration... hoping to find a closer option. I'm at Shades of Green .
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:00 PM   #95
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Sorry for my previous post about the money order... thought I was starting a new thread but my question wound up on this thread... trying to delete it but I can't.
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I'd like to respond to OP comment about people "cutting" in line. (Hopefully I won't get flamed for my opinion I have traveled several times with my MIL, FIL, SIL, DH, DS, and DD (both preschoolers at the time) to DW. We would often leave 2/3 adults in the line to wait and have the other 2/3 take the kiddos to the bathroom or to play at a playground, sit on a bench etc... basically do anything that would keep them from fussing and annoying everyone around us in line. This also helped my FIL who can sometimes have difficulty standing (especially in heat/sun) for longer periods of time. I always felt like we were giving the people around us a break (from our children). I think it was pretty obvious to those right behind us as we would all get in line together and then figure out who was taking who where. We would return before the line started to get too far into a queue so we didn't have to say excuse me to a million people.

I've personally never found this irritating at a park, but obviously some people do. I'm not sure it would stop me from doing it with small kiddos (or in a potty emergency with my primary age kiddos now). We always try to be polite and kind to anyone around us and I don't mind if other do it as well and are polite about it. Just wanted to add my perspective. Those "cutters" may have saved you from listening to a 2 year old scream cry or a 3 year old run around your legs for 40 minutes! LOL
Potty breaks are acceptable, IMO. But the notion that you are going to cut in line to "save me" from your (generally speaking) child's behavior is ridiculous. Your child's behavior is not my problem and I shouldn't have to put up with your child running around my legs, etc. Either they can wait or not, and if they can't you should come back when they are calm.
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On the RnR this afternoon they were loading 6 stand-bys and ALL the rest fast passers. We waited twice as long as the advertised time with fast passes to Tower of Terror in our pockets
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Cutting is cutting no matter how you word it.
I must be the dumbest person on earth because I don't notice line cutting as a big problem at WDW. Rarely see it, but then again I don't go looking for it.

Don't get me going on double wide strollers or people stopping in the middle of walkways though. Those two things drive me crazy.
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There are people who still use sb? The only time we ever use it is if the wait is 10 min or less or if there is not a Fp option.
Yes. Standby entrance is for guests not using FASTPASS.

Are you getting SB confused with single-rider line?

However, if the SB reads 40 mins - I'm not expecting to stand for 90+.
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On the RnR this afternoon they were loading 6 stand-bys and ALL the rest fast passers. We waited twice as long as the advertised time with fast passes to Tower of Terror in our pockets
Yep, just like I said in my PP, the CMs apparently are not following their own ratio instructions (80/20)...or they can't count.
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I must be the dumbest person on earth because I don't notice line cutting as a big problem at WDW. Rarely see it, but then again I don't go looking for it.

Don't get me going on double wide strollers or people stopping in the middle of walkways though. Those two things drive me crazy.
Leaving a family member to hold a spot on line while you take Jr to see Cinderella or play at the train water feature and then trying to squeeze your way into the line meet up with the spot holder is cutting. You may mall it whatever you want, but you're still cutting in front of others.

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Yep, just like I said in my PP, the CMs apparently are not following their own ratio instructions (80/20)...or they can't count.
I'd imagine the ratio gets put on hold if the FP line starts to back up. They need to make sure the Fast in FastPass stays that way.
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Before we enter the standby line, we always ask the CM positioned at the entrance what the actual wait is like. They usually know a much more accurate number than the one posted. Once a wait for Barnstormer was posted at 60 and the CM said it was actually only 10 minutes. Turned out to be 7 minutes, so she was basically right! Just recently, we asked about the wait for UTSJOTLM (which was posted at 20 minutes), but the CM said it'd be 30. She was right. Exactly, 30 minutes, so before you enter the standby, always ask. Sometimes those wait time posters (or whatever they are called) malfunction or just haven't been updated in a while. It never hurts to ask.
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The ratio definitely is adjusted based on operational. And I got asked wait times all the time as a greeter. I'd usually look at the posted wait, eyeball the line, and make a pretty good judgement call based on that. It's spooky how good you get at it.

Once you throw fastpass into the mix though all bets are off. It can make it harder to judge.
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